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fdt
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Try a different route
With all of the reports of bad experiences on the strech from the border to Rosarito using the toll road, why don't you (those that are interested)
take the free road or libre, it's Free, Well traveled, Easy to find, 4 lanes, Not dangerous IMHMO and as a good scout, Logical because it's a straight
line. Oh, I forgot to mention that there are plenty of Oxxo's to stop at on that route 
The ilogical and recently talked about route Vs the logical, not in the news route;
The so easy to find free road, just as you come across, stay on the right lanes and go to the second traffic circle (Cuahutemoc) and make a right;
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fdt
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PS;
Happy birthday Simone, AKA Mrs fdt.
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Natalie Ann
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Happy Birthday, Simone.
Wishing you a real happy day and fun year ahead.
Nena
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
.....Oscar Wilde
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Roberto
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Typically, I have found fdt's route to be slower than the new road via Otay. The traffic can be pretty heavy.
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
How do you compare that way to the new road east of Otay to Popotla?
I have traveled that way 3 times and it doesn't seem any shorter time-wise than the toll road but it certainly "felt" safer to me.
I'll give the free road a shot next time. |
The new Blvd 2000 would be fine if you are crossing at Otay.
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
Typically, I have found fdt's route to be slower than the new road via Otay. The traffic can be pretty heavy. |
Correcto Roberto, it is slower in a way and it's because of traffic and stop lights but in mileage it's a shorter route and it's free. Does speed
count if these thugs would be wanting to stop you anyway?
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Roberto
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Of course not. The choice is between the new Otay route and the "Via Rapida" - that's what it's called, right?
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Hook
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The ultimate new route
I am, I am.
I'm heading straight for Sonora, from now on.
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Roberto
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
I am, I am.
I'm heading straight for Sonora, from now on. |
You talked about five hours below the border. How long to it - 3/4 hours? I found that towing to San Carlos is about the same time as going to Bahia,
but much less stressful due to the better roads.
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Hook
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That was also a major deciding factor, Roberto. So easy to drive 2/3 of the distance on interstates and then the last 5 hours on divided highway. No
mention of highway robbery on any of the San Carlos boards in the few years I've been watching.
Just getting too old to face the tow down to at least SR on Baja.
Besides, if I want to see BOLA, SR or Mulege, I'll just cruise over on the "pond".
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bajadock
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Fan of free road. DITTO FDT...
1. 10-15 minutes longer max from Ensenada to border:
north: jump back on "cuota" at Mision/La Fonda
off at Puerto Nuevo...9 miles to...
on at OXXO/Pemex just afer Rosarito toll booth
jump off at Rosarito Norte, just afer Commercial Mex
south: jump on entering Rosarito Norte from free rd
off at OXXO/Pemex/ after Las Rocas exit
on 3 miles south of Chuy
off at Mision/LaFonda
2. Case of beer richer for round trip w/o tolls
3. Scenery is more interesting, rural, more human for me
4. Miles are same and if it's getting dark on my return south, I'll fork over the last Ensenad toll
5. Otay is longer than either libre/cuota, adding jog back west to get to services in San Diego
GEEZ Doc, howcheapareya? Guests are never without a beverage from my frig or shelf.
[Edited on 9-20-2007 by bajadock]
[Edited on 9-20-2007 by bajadock]
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Roberto
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
That was also a major deciding factor, Roberto. So easy to drive 2/3 of the distance on interstates and then the last 5 hours on divided highway. No
mention of highway robbery on any of the San Carlos boards in the few years I've been watching.
Just getting too old to face the tow down to at least SR on Baja.
Besides, if I want to see BOLA, SR or Mulege, I'll just cruise over on the "pond". |
Si senor. I understand and agree.
When I was in San Carlos, we crossed over to Isla Tortugas and Santa Rosalia "for the day". Nice trip. Beautiful marlin and Dorado cruising the east
side of the island.
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Bajafun777
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Fdt, you give some good options and happy B-Day to Simone. I know you helped her celebrate her B-Day, however if you were both drinking tequila I
know who drank the other one under the table!!! The tequila tasting at the Book Signing was a blast along with meeting you and your wife. She
definately knows how to at least try to keep you from totally misbehaving, we had some good laughs that night. You also kept Jeans on her toes with
your one- liners. Later------------------- bajafun777
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fdt
The new Blvd 2000 would be fine if you are crossing at Otay. |
Early morning or at night, I wouldn't drive 2000 on a bet. Too easy to get jacked. You're driving through the country with dozens of roads leading off
into the hills where the narcos live. Also, I've never seen a cop on that road.
Ferna, any news as to the make and model of vehicle and how registered? My belief is that a pizza chit and Mexican plates is the best insurance.
I may be driving with a false sense of security. 
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fdt
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Dave, you are so right about that Blvd 2000, I totaly agree.
Also crossing at Otay to the US is always slower than SYS, in my experience.
As for the make & model of their car, I don't know but then, it sais they were cattle ranchers and if I know my people, it would have been a
flashy truck or something like that and they had been targeted for a while.
With all of these BajaNomad 2¢ worth of opinions have we reached the one peso mark? 
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Bajalover
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All great routes to try when not towing an Airstream. Think I'll stick to the Toll Road and drive it on a Sunday morning at 7am when everyone is
sleeping or just getting up for breakfast.
Sometimes you really do question; why you are and where you are.
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fdt
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What size is an Airstream? Biger than a 18 wheel Semi that use the free road?
Just kidding, if I happen to be in Playas area, I will also use the toll road.
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MrsFDT
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Thanks everyone for the birthday wishes. AND thanks to the husband FDT for announcing it.....
 Another year wiser is what I hope happened...  But we never know without retrospect. So i'll just have to wait till im 50 to look
back and see the verdad (truth)
I am now 39, so I guess that means we have to do a BAJA BASH for my 40th. Tequila and a group of friends..... to hold my hair up and laugh while I
puke my guts up on someones front lawn.
Oh wait, that was 20.... We'll have to do something, I think 40 is a landmark age? Cant wait.
Following FDT wherever the Baja wind takes him.... That is, if its going in the same direction I am.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrsFDT
Thanks everyone for the birthday wishes. AND thanks to the husband FDT for announcing it.....
Another year wiser is what I hope happened... But we never know without retrospect. So i'll just have to wait till im 50 to look
back and see the verdad (truth)
I am now 39, so I guess that means we have to do a BAJA BASH for my 40th. Tequila and a group of friends..... to hold my hair up and laugh while I
puke my guts up on someones front lawn.
Oh wait, that was 20.... We'll have to do something, I think 40 is a landmark age? Cant wait. |
WOW!!!! whatta gal!
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Gadget
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
Typically, I have found fdt's route to be slower than the new road via Otay. The traffic can be pretty heavy. |
This is exactly what I have been posting for the last week. This will be my route for the near future. The traffic pretty heavy??? Me thinks that
could be a deterant to some thug trying to get behind me and muscle me over for a rip off. PERFECT 
[Edited on 9-21-2007 by Gadget]
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