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DrTom
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gringo snobbery
whats with this gringo snobbery.....i know this woman who has a place in san miguel allende, lives most the time here and has a place there and kinda
looks down her nose at me for building in cabo...."oh, cabo.......too crass for me"....hey, i surf and fish. Like living in "santa fe south" is
authentic but baja isnt......ok the corridor isnt exactly national geographic but the desert and ocean is intense in baja.....then again i see the
life in the dirt and water.
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DENNIS
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Why do you let it bother you, Doc? Who's opinion counts to you? Hers or yours?
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Al G
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CSL is not Baja
Albert G
Remember, if you haven\'t got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart, then you are just a sour old fart!....
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
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Gypsy Jan
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SMA v. CSL
Hi Doctor Tom,
San Miguel de Allende is an ancient historic city in the mountain highlands of Central Mexico with a reputation for arts and culture.
It is a destination of choice for many Europeans and American artists and authors (and a weekend party spot for obnoxious, irritating Chilangos, i.e.
Mexico City yuppies.
Cabo San Lucas is an entity created out of whole cloth by the Mexica tourist bureacracy that is FONATUR. It only exists to lure tourist dollars.
Given the choice between the two, I would probably pick CSL to live in, way out of town, for the natural beauty and the ocean, and visit SMA for the
arts and culture.
In re SMA, I can't get past the fact that the water aquifer there is so polluted that you must treat your tap water, even for a shower.
[Edited on 10-27-2007 by Gypsy Jan]
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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Sallysouth
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Yes Al G, CSL IS Baja.One just needs to venture out of the tourist zone to know that it is indeed not just tourists there.Mija lives there, as Jan
says, way out of town and is raising my two beautiful bi- lingual grandaughters, working and living among the locals.There is more to CSL than you
think.
Happiness is just a Baja memory away...
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Gypsy Jan
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Hey Sally,
You said what I was trying to say -- much better.
Check out the place you want to live, get to know the real people, avoid/ignore the self-entitled underminers that try to tell you what to do.
That is all.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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lizard lips
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No Gypsy Jan, You did very well with your post! I go to San Miguel alot and you hit the nail on the head. I think SMA is one of the most beautiful
places in Mexico but in the past 20 years because of the influx of Americans and Europeans it has changed to where I dont want to go
back......Snobbery Dr. Tom, yes. My friends there think Ensenada is not Mexico. I just laugh and tell them at least we dont have to put up with the
Chilangos who think they own all of Mexico.
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HotSchott
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Um Lizard...The chilangos do own all of Mexico and a good size chunk of California Norte as well.
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vandenberg
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Don't quite get the gringo fascination with San Miquel. A few years ago we traveled for 2 month through central Mexico and of all the old colonial
cities we visited SM was the least interesting. Durango, Fresnillo, Zacatecas (especially), Guanajuato, Dolores Hidalgo, Queretaro all have her beat
by a mile. And another plus was, hardly any gringos.
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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Sallysouth
Yes Al G, CSL IS Baja.One just needs to venture out of the tourist zone to know that it is indeed not just tourists there.Mija lives there, as Jan
says, way out of town and is raising my two beautiful bi- lingual grandaughters, working and living among the locals.There is more to CSL than you
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My statement still stands, but as you pointed out it is in reference to the tourist zone. Most likely where you live is no different the then any
other Baja Ciudad.
Albert G
Remember, if you haven\'t got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart, then you are just a sour old fart!....
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
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lizard lips
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Hot, I should have said the Chilangos who dont have two pesos to rub together that think they own all of Mexico!
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Phil S
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Couple years ago, Wendy & I spent a week in SMA, and met a few of whom you called 'snobs'. She WAS pretty brutal with you for sure. BUT. We
loved our week there. Shops, galleries, studios, churches, local color, music in the plaza (1/2 block from our hotel) $2.00 anywhere taxis's.
Super friendly clerks, shop owners, etc. Great value for our money, and only two years ago. However, we did look around at real estate. Eeeeee
gads!!!!! We have an acquaintance who lives in Central Oregon who owns two homes there???????? ONe for a rental and the other when she occationally
decides to fly down & "hang around"!!!????!!!! Amazing who many Texas license plated cars we saw down there that week. WE did bus trip to
Queretaro, Guanajuato while there, and both very interesting towns. But we really liked SMA the best. Just shows, "different strokes for different
folks". I never let the snobs bother me. LIfes too short!!!!
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Bruce R Leech
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SMA ?
Bruce R Leech
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bajalou
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san miguel allende,
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
Nomad Baja Interactive map
And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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comitan
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SMA Home to 8,000 gringo's.  
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Leo
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The mainland is just another Mexico, no daubt. SMA and the other historic towns nearby are absolutly fascinating, photographers heavens and cultural
meccas.
We also checked it ou one year for a few months, but it's too dry, the air, too cold and wet in winter and no ocean nearby. Some people, like me,
can't live too far from a good body of water, salty water that is. We love Baja.
The grass is always greener....
and so, there is always a better spot in Baja
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nobaddays
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Cabo can be a wild and crazy party town. If you don't like it, stay out of downtown. Cabo has the best year round weather in all of Mexico.
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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by nobaddays
Cabo can be a wild and crazy party town. If you don't like it, stay out of downtown. Cabo has the best year round weather in all of Mexico. |
No problema...I will stay out...I am intelligent enough to know it is for the young and dumb...Mexico appreciates your monetary contrabutions...Please
continue on as it keeps my property taxes down.
Albert G
Remember, if you haven\'t got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart, then you are just a sour old fart!....
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
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Sallysouth
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Geez Al, What the heck happened to you in The CSL area to have you so "un-dun" whould you care to share ? Maybe then we can get a grip on your hatred
for the area?Might help
Happiness is just a Baja memory away...
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capt. mike
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Santa Fe south!!
that hits it perfectly!
it has no ocean - !! that's enuff for me not to fly there,
and vandenburg - your other towns are very cool, Zacatecas esp.
Al G - Cabo is ok if you know where to go, and yes the outskirts have amazing things to see/do.
Don't let the neon stereotype it all. After a recent visit i have a new appreciation for it - and i WAS in the cabo sucks camp, not anymore.
formerly Ordained in Rev. Ewing\'s Church by Mail - busted on tax fraud.......
Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
\"Remember there is a big difference between kneeling down and bending over....\"
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