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[*] posted on 5-19-2008 at 02:14 PM
An Observation


It doesn't seem that long ago that to log into Baja Nomad was a way to escape the world north of the border with all of its troubles.............................

Some of todays posts first page only:

*Netting Cabrilla in Loreto
*bodies found rear Rosarito
*LA times discussion of drug war in Mexico
*Fish in the Gulf Better/Worse?
*Armed robbers run out of gas
*top ten scams in Baja
*military intercepts drug runner south of Calafia
*Canadian tourist shot deat in Mexico
*Killing in Riu Cabo
*Bad accident Monday on TJ-Rosarito..........
*National Car rental La Paz scam
*True Report

Jeeeezzzzzzzzz:no::no::no:


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edited for spelling

[Edited on 5-19-2008 by tripledigitken]
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[*] posted on 5-19-2008 at 02:44 PM


I've been seeing that for some time myself....it just reflects the current state of baja....my last trip was november last year.....I will go down for BAJA 500 but with some other people instead of my own vehicle.....future trips MAY happen....but it is not the same as years past......:(
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[*] posted on 5-19-2008 at 02:49 PM


Don't dwell on the negatives.:oThere's way more positive things down in Baja.:D
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[*] posted on 5-19-2008 at 03:00 PM


Just imagine if it were L.A. Nomads!:no:

South Bronx Nomads:fire: man, Baja sure looks good!:biggrin:




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[*] posted on 5-19-2008 at 03:25 PM


Or San Diego Nomads....

Crime stats for San Diego from the first three months of this year:

20 murders
167 rapes
369 armed robberies
1720 aggravated assaults
5122 vehicles stolen

Sounds like a pretty scary place to me...




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[*] posted on 5-19-2008 at 03:28 PM


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Sounds like a pretty scary place to me...


i hear ya!!!! i wish they'd stay away from here, too, this summer!!!:light:




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[*] posted on 5-19-2008 at 03:31 PM


Hehe.....

I hear ya Woody! The San Diego surf population stats are showing a big increase lately....usually happens around this time every year...as soon as the water warms up!




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[*] posted on 5-19-2008 at 03:35 PM


Don't buy newspapers and don't listen to the news. That way, your ideal Baja will just be fine. Don't let the bad news influence your plans for a good time. Salud.
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[*] posted on 5-19-2008 at 03:36 PM


Darn, no wonder.



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[*] posted on 5-19-2008 at 04:09 PM


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Originally posted by BajaGeoff
Or San Diego Nomads....
Crime stats for San Diego from the first three months of this year:
20 murders
167 rapes
369 armed robberies
1720 aggravated assaults
5122 vehicles stolen
Sounds like a pretty scary place to me...


Not when you consider that San Diego County has a larger population than the combined states of Baja Norte and Sur and that there have been over 3 times that number of murders just in Tijuana during the same 3 months.

But then it would make it harder to sell Mexican Auto Insurance if you told the story straight up.

Maybe you should sell Mexican Life Insurance?;D
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[*] posted on 5-19-2008 at 04:14 PM


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Originally posted by BajaGeoff
Or San Diego Nomads....
Crime stats for San Diego from the first three months of this year:
20 murders
167 rapes
369 armed robberies
1720 aggravated assaults
5122 vehicles stolen
Sounds like a pretty scary place to me...


Not when you consider that San Diego County has a larger population than the combined states of Baja Norte and Sur and that there have been over 3 times that number of murders just in Tijuana during the same 3 months.

But then it would make it harder to sell Mexican Auto Insurance if you told the story straight up.

Maybe you should sell Mexican Life Insurance?;D


Fulano,

Thankyou for bringing a little sanity to the stats...

Numbers can say anything you want if you leave out the paramiters such as population etc.

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[*] posted on 5-19-2008 at 05:07 PM


Sanity is in short supply when buried by statistics.:yes:
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[*] posted on 5-19-2008 at 05:30 PM


The chances of anyone on here being murdered, raped, robbed or assalted is about as good as being hit by lightning unless your involved in dark dealings to begin with. It doesn't mean not being careful, just like you wouldn't run across a busy intersection with your eyes closed. Pay attention to your surroundings. I really don't do anything different in Mexico than I do here in Bakersfield. I don't walk down dark alleys at 2am here and I'm not walking down an alley in TJ at that time either.

20 murders in SD is about 1 in 100,000 for the metro area and they most likely were in select areas. The TJ murders are mostly drug gang related in shootouts, between gangs, gang and cops/military or cops and military.

I also think we tend to forget some things of the past. I remember the killings in the late 80's at a camp ground out of Ensenada on hwy 3, Auga Caliente or something like that. I remember in the early 90s bandits shooting prerunners and robbing bikers going up to Mike's Sky Rancho out of Trinidad. And the robbers on hwy 5 around KM 70-80 pulling people over late at night acting like cops. There has always been a spat of bad things happen now and then. With the flood of housing money from 2003/4 to 2006 it brought lots of people down to Baja buying their ocean front 2nd home. With the clamp down on illegals in the U.S. many have been forced back to Mexico with no job and no money. Easy money is there for the pickins.

Am I going to stop going to Baja, no. The only thing that will stop me is if I can't afford the gas to get there.
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[*] posted on 5-19-2008 at 09:09 PM


Just trying to give a little perspective with those numbers guys. Bad things are happening on both sides of the border, it just seems like Baja is making the front page constantly, while things in our own backyard go unreported.

Just glad I am not selling U.S. car insurance.......Over 5,000 cars stolen in three months time in San Diego alone? Sheesh.




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[*] posted on 5-19-2008 at 09:18 PM


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Originally posted by TW
I really don't do anything different in Mexico than I do here in Bakersfield.


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[*] posted on 5-19-2008 at 10:26 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by TW
The chances of anyone on here being murdered, raped, robbed or assalted is about as good as being hit by lightning unless your involved in dark dealings to begin with.


You are just rationalizing.

Odds of being struck by lightning: 576,000 to 1
Odds of being killed by lightning: 2,320,000 to 1
Odds of being murdered, raped, robbed or assaulted in Mexico: 5:1

Remember, these odds are over a lifetime.
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[*] posted on 5-20-2008 at 02:35 AM


fulano

do you visit Baja? And if not, why are you on this site?

A "Good Samaritan"?




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[*] posted on 5-20-2008 at 05:44 AM
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47 murders since Jan 1- DC pop about the same as TJ- some neighborhoods- you just don't go and at night kiss your behind goodbye- so Baja sur is a real peaceful place- comparatively--



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[*] posted on 5-20-2008 at 06:07 AM


My pueblo violent crime non-existant theft virtually unheard of

so ya gotta pass through a few *********. just driving to work from Long Island to the Firehouses I worked in the NYC ghettos was far more dangerous then driving from San Diego to Baja Sur.

[Edited on 5-20-2008 by Hose A]




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[*] posted on 5-20-2008 at 07:13 AM


George - don't tell anyone. As far as I am concerned, some of these guys can just stay home in the good old US of A
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