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fulano
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Ensenada suffers severe impact from tax imposed on cruise lines
| Quote: | With this new tax each passenger must pay 5 dollars or 56 pesos
Jorge Lecona, director for Mexico and Latin America port operator Hutchinson Port Holdings (HPH), said that the new cruise line tax, which was
established in December 2007, and which requires each passenger to pay 5 dollars or 56 pesos at the port of Ensenada has had a very strong impact.
"It's very bad, and is discouraging the arrival of passengers, indeed in Ensenada in October 50% of our market stopped coming.
This is because one of the two cruise lines (Carnival Cruise Lines and Royal Caribbean) decided to not come to that port. The director preferred not
to identify the company, as they are in negotiations to have them return.
Lecona elaborated that the port received approximately 250,000 passengers per year but estimated that with this development will achieve only 125,000.
"There are countries that offer money to get cruise lines, as the Caribbean islands. (...) The cruise lines were very insistent that this be reviewed,
there were a lot of requests to reconsider the issue, but the tax was initiated. That creates a very big problem for us because the end result is we
lose 50% of the market."
According to the latest reform to the Federal Law of Rights (in December 2007), 80% of what is collected goes to the municipality and the remaining
20% is for the National Immigration Institute. |
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/517806.html
OK, so let's work this out. Say each passenger spends $50. So by imposing the tax, the government gets $5 times 125,000 passengers, or $625,000. But
the economy loses $50 times 125,000 passengers, or $6,250,000.
These guys can join ******* team as financial advisors.
[Edited on 7-2-2008 by BajaNomad]
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Mexico is Stuck on Stupid. I'm going to make that my tag line...
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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this is unconfirmed, but I have heard that Loreto has also tried adding a tax. and that Holland America has decided not to visit after the 2009
season. if true, more brilliant thinking...
reality\'s never been of much use out here...
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BRILLIANT!!!!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Mexico is Stuck on Stupid. I'm going to make that my tag line... |
Now THAT is an understatement !
At every level, the attitude seems to be screw the customer today rather than think of the future.
The cruise line that is pulling it's Ensanada stop is Royal Carribian, and Holland America moving toward the cancellation of it's Sea of Cortez
landings on the Ryndam.
Yes, thank you for this new national motto ....
S T U C K ON S T U P I D
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No society has ever taxed its way into prosperity . . .
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Fulano,
I've taken Royal Carribean's cruise...twice. Both times with a bunch of women (read shoppers). Based on this anecdotal experience and watching the
armloads of shopping bags almost every passenger carried back on board, I would say your "guesstimate" was conservative.
Somehow taxation never seems to work out as planned, does it?
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Just like other mistakes made, when the damage is done, Mexico will look around and say,"What happened"? Then, they will put it back the way it
was.
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On the bright side, it's only screwing the least desireable of ports of call. I wouldn't pay $5 to get off in Ensenada either if I knew Los Cabos and
Puerto Vallarta were just a day away. The best ports of call will still get the tourist dollars and it will still wind up in Mexico- just not in
Ensenada, No?
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Mexico is Stuck on Stupid. I'm going to make that my tag line... |
Now THAT is an understatement !
At every level, the attitude seems to be screw the customer today rather than think of the future.
The cruise line that is pulling it's Ensanada stop is Royal Carribian, and Holland America moving toward the cancellation of it's Sea of Cortez
landings on the Ryndam.
Yes, thank you for this new national motto ....
S T U C K ON S T U P I D
CaboRon |
Thanks CaboRon. Sadly I got the tagline from a conversation with a narco. He clearly knew the shortfalls of his home country and his english was
good enough to express it in those three words- Stuck On Stupid.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Ensenada is trying to follow in the footsteps of the airport authorities in Mexico, where you get taxed when you leave the country.
Udo
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A lot of countries make you pay to exit at airports these days. I think Argentina charged us like $50 each and it had to be in cash. I don't know what
would happen if you arrived at the airport flat broke.
Dooes Esenada even have the option of opting-out of the $5 surcharge or is a national law with no exceptions? Just wondering.
[Edited on 6-27-2008 by Woooosh]
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I read recently where Ensenada is complaining about the $2000.00 (American)/month upkeep on the Rotary Tower. I too have heard that one of the cruise
lines will no longer dock in Ensenada and I believe they will cease operations in Ensenada in October
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bacquito
I read recently where Ensenada is complaining about the $2000.00 (American)/month upkeep on the Rotary Tower. I too have heard that one of the cruise
lines will no longer dock in Ensenada and I believe they will cease operations in Ensenada in October |
What is the Rotary Tower ?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
What is the Rotary Tower ? |
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What can they do to it for $2000 a month??? For that you could get someone to yell out the time every 15 minutes.
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More like every minute!
Joke:
Q: What did the clock tower say to the cruise ship? 
A: Embark at stupid o'clock...........................please! 
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fulano
| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
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I've never seen this thing give the correct time since they built it.
2000 pesos, maybe. Certainly not dollars. Then again, maybe the payroll system is screaming for an audit.
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fulano
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They just voted a 90-day delay in the $5 head tax
Wait until you find out why:
It seems they had set up for this new tax to be collected by the Instituto Nacional de Migración (INM) located at each port in the country. They were
actually going to have the passengers file off the boats and form a line at the INM and have each passenger plunk down his $5.
Well, apparently, somebody just found out that the average cruise ship disembarks about 1,800 passengers at a time and it would take hours for them to
collect the money while the passengers waited in line. So they delayed the whole thing while they rethink it.
I just had this hilarious image of this immigration official -- you know, the guy in the khaki uniform with his belly hanging over his belt and a
pencil-thin moustache -- sitting there at an old wooden desk with a No. 2 pencil, a rubber stamp and a pad of receipts -- filling these forms out
one-by-one and then stamping them, with 1,800 people in the line.
http://elvigia.net/noticias/?seccion=generales&id=44406
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Or maybe he could just write 1 or 2 receipts and put the other 1798 $5 dollar bills in his pockets......it would move the line along faster.....
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