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CaboRon
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Weather Preparadness in BCS
Evidently that season is starting to gear up south of us and at some point we could have to deal with a hurricane ...
This will be my first hurricane season in the tropics and I am making a list on what I need to do ....
Maybe your could help ????
I will go ahead and note what I have been told....
In addition to extra bottled water, dry goods and canned food and a hurricane lamp I was told to ...
Shut off the water and gas .... because the hugh changes in atmospheric pressure could do damage to those systems..
And I am very interested in your responses ...
CaboRon/Todos Santos
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Al G
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Ron...this will be my first season too. I guess I have been told by at least 25-30 people that Todos Santos is seldom ever in any danger.
I still will take measures to satisfy my need of uncertainty. That will consist of protecting my big windows, Beheading several big palms behind my
place, and keeping my 100 gallon freshwater tank full. I do that anyway as the damn water keeps going off or so low pressure, I cannot take a shower.
This usually happens around 11 am to 2pm. If you are more concern, I would search hurricane John and read what they needed most.
Albert G
Remember, if you haven\'t got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart, then you are just a sour old fart!....
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
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oxxo
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This is my second hurricane season here. Went through Hurricane ? last September. That was my first hurricane ever and although it was only a Cat 1,
a very interesting experience.
For preparations this season, we had our palms headed back yesterday. We've laid in a case of Costco bottled water.
Last year we bought a Costco pizza the day before the cane hit. We had pizza and Pacificos and watched the excitement through our windows. Nothing
was damaged. We hope to be spared this year.
[Edited on 7-11-2008 by oxxo]
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Osprey
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Good idea to fill up all your vehicles with fuel. Buy eggs, hot dogs and spam, extra batteries, insect repellent, cases of whatever you drink that
rehydrates you. Candles and books can replace your TV when the power goes out. Embrace the darkness, the silence because it is a gift you won't have
long after the storm has passed. In your head count all the money you're saving on pruning. Enjoy.
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bajajudy
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http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=19286#pid1684...
this is pretty good information.
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Paula
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
Embrace the darkness, the silence because it is a gift you won't have long after the storm has passed. In your head count all the money you're saving
on pruning. Enjoy. |
We always leave for hurricane time. Don might like to be here, but I'm chicken, and I'd rather deal with what has happened than what is
happening.
But Osprey, you make it sound downright mystical! Maybe I should change my thinking on this...
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vandenberg
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Paula,
Hurricanes are about as mystical as a rootcanal.
Been through 3 in my lifetime and will not be disappointed if I never see another one.
My first one was in Holland as a teen. Called a northwester, with 130 mph winds. 2000 people perished and millions of livestock. Also put all of
southwestern Holland under seawater for months, with devastating effect to all agriculture. No mystique there. Went through 2 here in Baja. No fun.
And now that Loreto Bay has all their garbage laying around, I really dread the possibility of one this season. Flying debris causing most of the
damage during a storm.
But, let's hope we will be spared. Got my vote.
[Edited on 7-11-2008 by vandenberg]
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fulano
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Are you guys talking about Paradise?
Because it sounds more like el culo del
diablo.
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comitan
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Get all the supplies you need for a week, and buy the biggest generator you can afford and do this before the hurricane because if you wait everyone
will be sold out.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Diver
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I spent 10 years in south Florida....
All of the above are good.
Make sure your doors and windows are secure and will withstand the wind.
Otherwise, make sure you ahve sufficient materials to board them up.
Also get a few tarps in case you get a leak and need to keep things dry.
Batteries, candles, canned or otherwise unspoilable foods for a few days and plenty of water and refrescos.
Don't forget enough extra water to "flush" occassionally.
All of these things are hard to buy in the before and after frenzy.
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shari
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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We almost never get hurricaines this far north but once every 10 years or so one can surprise everyone. On our house we installed big bolts into the
cement around each window so we just have to bolt on pieces of plywood over the windows...the rain really came through the door though, under and
around it...wish I would have sealed it too...will next time...a vhf radio is important to get help and communicate with the outside in the event of
injury...with batteries to and all the other stuff everyone said. It's very scary, the noise is deafening and water everywhere...huge waves...but
pretty darn impressive too. I may just like the adrenalin rush....kinda like in the earthquakes!
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Paula
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I'm sorry if I sounded flippant about storms in my post. They are frightening and destructive.
It was more of a comment on Osprey's lovely sentence
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rpleger
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All of the above are good....Battery operated fans are really good as the power goes off and it is generly hot...a stove top coffie maker...and a
small BBQ for cooking....
Richard on the Hill
*ABROAD*, adj. At war with savages and idiots. To be a Frenchman abroad is to
be miserable; to be an American abroad is to make others miserable.
-- Ambrose Bierce, _The Enlarged Devil\'s Dictionary_
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Skeet/Loreto
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All of the above suggestions on Material Goods in case of Bad Weather are well said.
Comment/Opinion:
After being in the Middle of the 1949 Tornado in Amarillo Texas, HUrricane Lisa that hit La Paz killing a lot of People and damaging many Materials
Things I have only One suggestion;
Have Faith!!
Skeet/Loreto
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Capt. George
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A "real" hurricane, 4+  Board up & "RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY!!!!"
no thank you, I'm outta there .
\"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men\" Plato
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comitan
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Kate your phone still should work even if the power is off.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Osprey
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This was a baaaad one
Hurricane John
What we needed right after the storm was a visit by some small town Kansas Rotary Club members. They would have recognized quickly what it took us
days, weeks to figure out; Hurricane John was a category two storm with moderate sustained winds but was moving along with a cadre of twisters held in
by a tight and organized eye-wall. The whirling tornados sprang up, did their deadly dances, melded back into the maelstrom; a dynamic of many well
organized typhoons and hurricanes. While the weathermen were telling us to prepare for 115 mile an hour winds, we would later see the incredible
wreckage caused by winds surpassing 275 miles per hour in the twisters.
The spooky calm of the storm’s eye passing over us was short, unholy. Sunday, two days after the storm, there was another kind of silence. It was
the soothing stillness falling on spent and tested survivors that marked the beginning of healing; a time of replenishment and perhaps the gift
salvation offers with such unspoken grace. A remarkable quietude, it was a hush that gently opened the door where succor and solace dwell.
No two storms are alike; this one was a cleaner. In every village street mountains of power and telephone poles, fallen trees and storm debris stood
as barricades against the advances of fleets of utility trucks and heavy equipment, villagers with ropes and shovels. When the streets were ready for
vehicles, debris removal really ramped up – special crews with loaders and trucks began to take all the refuse to the dump. The villagers all took
advantage of the opportunity to rid their lots of rubbish, junk that had cluttered their lots for years.
Los Cabos is such an important area to Mexico’s thriving tourist business the Mexican government arranged for 600 temporary power company employees to
be quickly transported to the Los Cabos airport as soon as planes could land there. When they discovered the major damage was well north of Los
Cabos, in the East Cape area, it meant a virtual army of pole setters and linesmen were available to each little hard hit pueblo. I watched in awe as
the CFE people performed miracles while they laughed and roughhoused like kids on spring break. Risking death or injury aloft they seemed to me to be
part Mexican circus roustabouts, part daredevil clowns in tan shirts, pants, bright yellow hardhats. Later groups of special Telmex emergency workers
set new poles with only shovels and hands – the only equipment I saw was the big stake truck that carried the strong, wiry youngsters from one fallen
pole to the next.
Even with all that organization, all those heroics, most of our phone lines were still down 30 days after the storm so we had little communication
with the outside world. Two weeks after the storm, news traveled through the pueblo that yet another storm, Lane, was following Hurricane John’s
track and was due to make landfall near us in less than 24 hours. The next morning, while the village was boarding up their homes again and making
plans to hold the traditional Independence celebration at city hall that evening, some outsider slammed Perdition’s gaping door when he informed us
Hurricane Lane had veered toward the Mexican mainland and would not pose a threat to us. On September 15 not a shot was fired, not one shout was
heard in our little town. Hurricane Lane made landfall the next morning breaking somebody else’s things in Sinaloa.
We all said “¿Que lastima?” but we really meant “Gracias Dios.” After all, we are proud and resilient but we are human.
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osoflojo
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I have seen several chubascos in CSL over the years but the worst was not a hurricane. In November 1993 we got (by reports) 28 inches of rain in about
12 hours. The new road to San Jose lost several bridges. The El Tule wash was running for 6 months, In town we had no water for 4 months and the
electricity was out for over a week. You can prepare all you want but you cant be ready for everything that may come down the pike. I dont think the
infrastructure in CSL is much better now than it was then. Best of luck to all.
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oldlady
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In my experience the "morning after" (or several mornings) are worse than the actual storm. Prepare to be isolated for a few days, as some of us were
last year, because of flooding. Comitan can attest to us watching, last year, the brave or foolish thinking they could clear a low spot and not
realizing how deep the water was. Prepare to stay home a while if it is a slow mover with lots of rain.
We spent John at a friend's house. He has a small company here that makes and installs screens for hurricane protection. They were fabulous and are
put up in a jiffy.
Finally, I strongly support one of the previous posts. If it's a 4 or greater, get out!
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Osprey
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Osoflojo is right on spot. The powers that be have designed Los Cabos to attract a weather catastrophy -- they have made the place almost unfixable in
some areas. If they don't move about 12,000 people in the arroyo near Santa Anita out of harm's way in the next 60 days they could have a killer
situation there. There is no way to prepare for some kinds of rain/wind combo -- storms like Juliette can stall for days (almost destroying Todos
Santos) near the shore, over populated areas, in the mountains above towns and villages like Mulege.
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