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[*] posted on 9-7-2008 at 07:36 PM
Skunky Pacificos


Past few years I have had a lot of problems with stale cases of Pacifico. Both with stale / skunky cases of "Ballenas" - the big bottles - as well as regular sized bottles. This past week, multiple issues again. Bought a case of Ballenas, drove them home, loaded them into the fridge, popped one - - nasty, metallic, skunky flavor. Second bottle, same thing.

Being a dumb donkey, later in the week I bought a case of skinny bottled Pacificos - repeated steps above - and again, skunky beer. Corroborated the skunky taste with my wife, then with a cab driver near by, then took the whole case (with two open beers) back up the hill to the same liquor store. Ultimately they gave me another case (minus the open beers), and it was a bit better, but they were telling me the first case of beer was much newer than the second one I left with - the second, better case being that 9% more promotional stuff from a couple of months ago.

Have been getting minor cases of the turistas without eating local foods, I'm thinking the skunky beer is making me sick...

Guessing that the issue could trace to the small liquor stores I'm hitting up in Chapultepec, a smaller town outside of Ensenada. With the drop in tourista visits, perhaps they are selling less beer and it is going stale.

Another theory is that the bottles aren't getting cleaned out well enough - the second (older case) of beer was better, and those bottles appeared to be brand new.

Both liquor stores I bought from this week swear they don't let the beer heat up - is going straight into their cooler at delivery.

The cases of imported Pacifico I buy at Costco never have this issue... anybody with similar experiences? Thinking I may need to switch to canned beer...
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[*] posted on 9-7-2008 at 07:39 PM


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I may need to switch to canned beer...


Heaven forbid !!
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wink.gif posted on 9-7-2008 at 07:45 PM
And how is it delivered?


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Both liquor stores I bought from this week swear they don't let the beer heat up - is going straight into their cooler at delivery.




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[*] posted on 9-7-2008 at 07:53 PM


WoW !!

I thought that's what Pacifico tasted like :lol:

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[*] posted on 9-7-2008 at 07:54 PM
I've noticed some Pacificos


being bad in the last two month's. But then again I bought a case of Modelo Especial and when I got it home and opened a bottle I frigging gagged it stunk so bad.

Had to every one of them away.:fire:




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[*] posted on 9-7-2008 at 08:21 PM


while we're on the subject...there is a "promo tecate" too on the market right now that is just plain not as good tasting as the regular red one...the promo can has a silver stripe around the top of it and it says promo...yucky.



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[*] posted on 9-7-2008 at 08:26 PM


You better not let Dennis here you badmouth PACIFICOS, he will have your hide Bajanaranja:lol::lol::lol:



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[*] posted on 9-7-2008 at 08:52 PM


Yeah, feel like a traitor speaking ill of my typically favorite Mexican beer, but after pouring so much of it down the sink lately...

In a related vein, all of the stinky Pacificos led me to buy a six pack of tall Tecates - the guy at the liquor store slipped in three limes and a stapled little plastic bag with red crushed clili & salt - Tho it was bright red, the flavor was really mild - not very spicy at all - but really tasty.

Does anybody know the name of the chili powder that folks slip into beer like this?
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[*] posted on 9-7-2008 at 09:28 PM


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You better not let Dennis here you badmouth PACIFICOS, he will have your hide Bajanaranja:lol::lol::lol:


No need to hide as Jose mentions, Lowerorange. Your problem is well illustrated and explained in the "Manual Of Pacifico Appreciation" written by Lic. Guadalupe Vicente Gus Lorenzo Jaime de Morlulu Sanchez Cabronito y Manosucio. No doubt you have heard of him.
Your problem, according to chapter three clearly addresses your malady and, without having to quote verse, sentence and word, you are severly constipated. That condition causes what we Pacifico lovers and cervescientists call, well, I really can't say it here but, I'm sure you know what we mean.
As a remedy, I suggest four or five doses of a product called COLON BLOW. Google that if you're confused and when you straighten out your problem, jump right into a box of fresh Pacifico and, as they say, Disfrute. [I think that's the Mexican word for Charmin.]
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[*] posted on 9-7-2008 at 09:31 PM


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[I think that's the Mexican word for Charmin.]


:lol::lol::lol:
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[*] posted on 9-7-2008 at 09:40 PM


G'nite.
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[*] posted on 9-7-2008 at 09:42 PM


Hey Dennis, maybe Bill knows something we don't :light: ........ nah. :lol::lol::lol:

Bill Gates Invests $450 Million in Mexican Beer
Posted by Mark Wilson at 1:16 AM on December 22, 2007
When you're Bill Gates, you've gotta party just as hard as you work. And you've got to invest just was hard as your party. Maybe that's why Bill Gates just invested $US392 million in Mexico's second largest brewer, Femsa. You know them as the company that makes Tecate, Sol, Superior and Kaiser.

The company does more than bottle beer, though they are the country's oldest brewer that's been running since 1890. It's also the world's second largest bottler of Coke all while it operates Oxxo, Latin America's largest convenience store chain with over 4,300 locations.

Of course, while Femsa had no comment about the transaction, their shares jumped 7.5 percent after Bill Gates purchased about 3% of the company. I myself am wondering how the hell my portfolio is short on Tecate stock. [reuters via I4U]

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[*] posted on 9-7-2008 at 09:54 PM


Yeah...I heard about his investment, Diver. All of this big business stuff is so large and convoluted any more, I can't even work up an opinion. Way beyond my simple comprehension.

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[*] posted on 9-7-2008 at 10:44 PM


Skunky Pacificos?, drink Bohemias!!!:P
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[*] posted on 9-7-2008 at 11:23 PM


While doing research on brewing a decade ago I ran across industry manuals describing this kind of problem. It was attributed to chemical reactions in beer stored in clear bottles, exposed to direct sunlight. The process cure is to add a trace of zinc to the brew, or use colored bottles. Sadly the references gave no clue how to detect the problem in the store...without opening the bottles...or how to drink the stuff after. Sorry you got stuck with bad beer. Perhaps what we need are suggestions for using skunky beer...other than for attracting skunks.
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[*] posted on 9-7-2008 at 11:44 PM


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[*] posted on 9-8-2008 at 05:52 AM


I've noticed that Pacificos have a higher percentage of getting skunk bottles for some time; a few years, really. I avoid the brand for this reason. And I agree that it is probably related to being old or exposed to heat. But that was pretty much my experiences in Baja.............and you are a pretty far shipment by ferry or truck from the breweries over here on the mainland. I havent bought a case of Pacificos over here yet, as I am still too gun shy of the brand. But I will.

You guys are getting your beer at an agencia, arent you, and not just a sub-agencia or a simple deposito on the corner? I always take my empties to the agencia near the offices of the beer company in town, no matter the type I am drinking. I figure it's closer to the source. And it's always cheaper.

I drink beer in enough quantity (and am a cheapazz enough) that I dont buy it in the supermarkets and I DONT drink canned beer unless there is no other option.

On a related topic, the beer offerings from the distribudor/agencias over here in Guaymas have changed in the last year. Biggest bummer; I can now no longer get Tecate or Dos XX in the medio size............ANYWHERE. The agencia guy tells me that those are only for distribution to restaurants and hotels. Yet I know I got a case of Dos XX medios in Mazatlan about a year ago; still have the bottles. BUMMER. I was really looking forward to buying Dos XX Especial Lager and Ambar down here. So much so, that I had brought four cases of empties of various brands (Modelo, Corona, Dos XX, Tecate) down with me when I moved here. The Tecate agencia was willing to let me trade the Tecate medios straight across for the deposit on the Caguamas.............but I rarely want to drink a whole Caguamas worth at one sitting. Plus, it creates storage problems in the fridge when your fridge space is limited. I'm seeing how one of those spring-loaded rubber stoppers works for keeping it fresh. Will know shortly. Anyway, a case of Tecate Caguamas with the deposito credit is 186 pesos over here at the agencia near the Tecate offices. This is a much cheaper way to buy it than the medios, but that damn quantity.................

Modelo is still selling all their beers in the 325ml size. I am using my empties to trade for the occasional Negras I drink with meals. Modelo Especial tastes too much like Corona for my tastes. BTW, Modelo products seem to be much more more expensive over here than Cuauhtémoc Moctezuma Brewery products.


That's all for now from your intrepid beer reporter over here on the mainland.

Stay thirsty, my friends.....................:lol:


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[*] posted on 9-8-2008 at 09:28 AM


Pacifico has always had that reputation - it's related to the clear glass it's bottled in - as well as heat - and length of time in storage.

Pacifico draft is a lot better (but rarer).
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[*] posted on 9-8-2008 at 09:34 AM


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Pacifico has always had that reputation - it's related to the clear glass it's bottled in - as well as heat - and length of time in storage.

Pacifico draft is a lot better (but rarer).


Are you thinking of Corona in the clear glass bottle? Years back, Miller High Life had the same bad reputation, skunky beer, attributed to the clear glass bottle.
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[*] posted on 9-8-2008 at 09:43 AM


Yeah - I am - sorry about that - I'll leave the post up there just to warn folks off of Corona - thanks Dennis.
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