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bajajudy
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17 story condo building in La Paz
http://www.oem.com.mx/elsudcaliforniano/notas/n870613.htm
This where the old Posado Engleburg used to be.
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did they knock it down?
i wonder if the new high rises are built to any quake code? Ken Bondy - what do you think? does steel alone in the super structure work for that?
i remember the Nicaracan quake a few years ago and a bunch of mid rises came down to piles killing 000's if memory serves. the reports were they
didn't build to quake standards steel and concrete or not.
i hope it becomes a nice edifice. the balcony views could be awesome.
prices? i can't read the Spanish text. La Paz is becoming my fav city.
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I haven't been through La Paz in a few years. Are there other buildings in La Paz that are as tall as that one?
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It is likely that the La Paz building is framed with reinforced concrete rather than structural steel. For concrete buildings Mexico adopts the
American Concrete Institute (ACI) Building Code. Building department oversight can be spotty so the quality of the design is largely based upon the
competence of the licensed design professionals (the architect and structural engineer), and the quality of the construction largely based upon the
integrity of the contractor.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
did they knock it down?
i wonder if the new high rises are built to any quake code? Ken Bondy - what do you think? does steel alone in the super structure work for that?
i remember the Nicaracan quake a few years ago and a bunch of mid rises came down to piles killing 000's if memory serves. the reports were they
didn't build to quake standards steel and concrete or not.
i hope it becomes a nice edifice. the balcony views could be awesome.
prices? i can't read the Spanish text. La Paz is becoming my fav city. |
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capt. mike
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thx Ken am pretty versed on reinforced concrete but know you're a pro in the indusrty.
the pictures of the structure if that is it in process appears to be iron skeleton. maybe at 17 stories they go with that.
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If you saw a steel skeleton mike then I am wrong about it being reinforced concrete. I am aware of very few structural steel buildings in Baja but
this sounds like one of them. ++Ken++
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Ken
It is a very heavy looking steel structure.
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photo?
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Thanks Wiley and elgatoloco. That is a structural steel frame. ++Ken++
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HEY! Leaning tower of La Pazza. 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Bondy
For concrete buildings Mexico adopts the American Concrete Institute (ACI) Building Code. Building department oversight can be spotty so the quality
of the design is largely based upon the competence of the licensed design professionals (the architect and structural engineer), and the quality of
the construction largely based upon the integrity of the contractor.
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Integrity? Ya think???
We toured an unfinished reinforced concrete beachfront condo highrise development in San Carlos, Son. A very appealing place, but, looking into some
suites without roughed in ceilings, we could see that the horizontal floor forms had been filled with bricks, cement blocks, rocks off the beach, tin
cans & GARBAGE from the workmen before the concrete was poured! Looked like nuts in a pudding.
Also, each suite had an appropriate electrical panel in the wall - no wiring, no circuit breakers, just hung on the wall because the workers were told
to!
We didn't buy ....
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Great views!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by elgatoloco
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What is odd is that so few hotels have any visitors, tourism is nearly non-existent, La Paz is a ghost town with not only no visitors but even the
locals do not go downtown because of traffic or do they go anywhere except to get away to the sierras to get away from traffic. Restaurants are always
empty and even if you did bring a group what would they do? There is no concept of service in most restaurants.
Grand Baja the neighboring hotel has never succeeded in 20 years and still is yet to open, and here they tore down a very nice place previously owned
by Engelbert Humperdink to put this in its place? Crap.
Nothing ever makes sense in crazy ol La Paz town. We call it backwards town. It is literally the finest example of poor planning ever! By the way the
road to the site is still a narrow dirtroad as are surrounding roads, no plan for transportation or road? Trucks can not even pass and if one stops
the whole neighborhood is blocked. No parking spaces, no gerdens but it is being overbuilt. There is no plan for increased sewage or water, the
infrastructure for water delivery is a mess with water leaking at every junction and yet no effort to improve infrastructure?
What a mess.
Now this it will be in legal limbo land forever because of the 'mix-up' of floor numbers 16-17-whoops!
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All too bad. Posada Engelbert was a favorite of mine.
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Gnukid I would surely answer your last post about how bad La Paz is, but I've been playing in DK's kindergarten class so am tired.
[Edited on 9-29-2008 by comitan]
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Ken; Thanks for the Report> I have spent lots of time in La Paz and think it would be a Great Place to Live.
People walking the Beach every nite, eating ice Cream at the best Place in North and South America. Good Hotels{mexicano and Americano} and some of
the best health Care you can find,even in the States., Very good dentist, Library. Several marinas CCC, LEYS and just about anything you need.
Virginia and I strongly considered moving there at one time. Good fishing over the Hill to the East Cape or a little further out to El Bajito.
I have always liked the Flavor of La Paz and think it is a good place for the Right kind of Folks.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by comitan
Gnukid I would surely answer your last post about how bad La Paz is, but I've been playing in DK's kindergarten class so am tired.
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I love La Paz, I love my neighborhood-yo vivo aqui en Colonia Manglito though they call it Juarez in this article... They keep changing the name but
nothing else changes. I think they also call it Colonia Nuevo even though we are the oldest. I live literally next door to this monstrosity. We laugh
and laugh, like so many projects it seems so stupid and doomed. But we have ideas, we always enjoyed climbing the Grand baja with a watermelon and
drinking way up on top. Nice view and fun to throw a watermelon off. The seniors who buy condos in the upper floors will need delivery of food and
water, so this provides work for us, we can provide them the basics. Of course the elevator will break and they be will stuck! jajaja
We have a funny game we play, in the afternoon when we join to relax and talk we tell all the crazy stories of what is planned-but always maintain
optimism and a straight face. Some stories are more than 25 years old-but we still believe-with certainty, and some are brand new and we believe in
them too. We always are optimistic and we laugh. I am investing big time in corner taco stands, cabeza, lingua and arrachera for when the gringo
finally comes? For example, when they finally build the road here-Rangel, the road will be a wide grand boulevard-like the champs d'elysee in Paris
and beautiful with plam trees-just that right now it is too narrow for even one car-that will change when the plan is put in place?
The Navy will move their toxic waste site and Cruisers to Comitan on the bottom of the bay where it is only 3 feet deep... even though they have been
here forever and still with no parking lot for the marines? They are forced to leave their cars scattered through the neighborhood blocking the only
access on Rangel when they go out-but soon they will move-and we are patient... Oh yeah Grand Baja will be finished soon-haha 25 years in development!
One day soon. Or when they closed down the cement factory, except that they left the cement stack there so now its a historical landmark, forever, or
they will make high rise condos everywhere except the roads are still impassable in any rain because like the high rise, its built in a river bed?
I would be pleased with any plan, well done development and anything that met the needs of the future or past, especially projects with opportunity
for people to work. I really hope for the best, its just that nothing ever makes sense. Nothing makes sense in La Paz. But we do have some action.
La Paz has an inferiority complex that it wants to overcome, it is the city that would like to become, the youngest State Capital in North America-yet
with a long history, but who are we, the city that desires to be. By its own actions it fails to deliver water, gas, electricity, streets are
incomplete, too narrow and have holes so deep you'll lose your car yet we persist.
Pacenos drive top speed down thwo worng way down one way narrow roads through stop signs to deliver their babies to nursery school, we do everything
backwards and with poor planning.
How about an infrastructure for the future? Parking? Roads, Water? Basics, Sidewalks? Something? We are literally still sitting here in the city
center with dirt streets, no water, with no plan for the most basic services? Turn on your tv and it will blow up with current ranging from
80-130volts.
Welcome to crazy town! Asi es el arroyo!
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Just one correction the bay in Comitan is 13-14 feet deep.
Try this site for Comitans future:
http://eaglecrestresorts.com/investment/
[Edited on 9-30-2008 by comitan]
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my kind of town.....la paz is....my kind of town!!
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Great !! Just one of the many Reasons I love La Paz!!
Eating Turtle Soup{In the past} at the Bismarkd 11, now eating at the Stand near the Beach. Going upstairs for real good Chinese Food where they serve
Gallo White Wine!
Out to Jalisco where you can get Calf Fries and oysters and Fish.
Or down to the Public Market for great health Drinks. Out to the many beaches in 10 minutes. Or if you want some good Dancin at night.
I like it as it is!!
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