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1000lbBlue
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Tourism and Safety
My friend sent me this link as he believes the annual trip this winter might be out of the question. Scared he is, me I am not. I only get Baja 4
times a year these days due to relocation from SoCal so I am not willing to let the chance for steep NW swells pass lightly. Like I have read a few
times before here, Baja is a hard sell to friends/family these days.
http://forum.surfermag.com/forum/showflat.php?Number=1489674
What say you nomads?
I still plan on going...
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Dave
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Dude
All the world's surfers could boycott Baja and the economy would lose 5 dollars.
Maybe. 
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Woooosh
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Actually a very accurate surf-travel article without all the hysterics. The close connection of the author to the recent restaurant killings was tied
in well- without going overboard. If the other aurthor (the New York Times one) traveling with him wrote the same article- it would be taken very
differently.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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David K
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Not impressed, at that link here is a little of what Serge Dedina says and his #1 warning (there are many more, go see):
"Does the media exaggerate the issue of the narco war and security in Baja the problem? Absolutely not. Anyone who travels south of the border should
be careful and concerned about security.
There are four things to be concerned with: 1) Getting caught in the crossfire of a narco-firefight; 2) Being robbed by narco gunmen; 3) Being robbed
by corrupt police officers; and 4) Being robbed by drug addicts and criminals in urban areas and more remote areas of the peninsula once perceived to
be very safe.
As someone who has spent the past 20 years working throughout the Peninsula, things have changed in Baja. The residents of the region are the first to
take the issue of security seriously. So here are some tips to help you stay safe:
1. Avoid travel south of the border if you can avoid it. Do you really need to eat overpriced fish tacos in Tijuana or Rosarito Beach?..."
  
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Dave
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STAY HOME!
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
1. Avoid travel south of the border if you can avoid it. Do you really need to eat overpriced fish tacos in Tijuana or Rosarito Beach?..."
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To a surfer, anything over a dollar is overpriced.
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woody with a view
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
All the world's surfers could boycott Baja and the economy would lose 5 dollars.
Maybe. |
many are praying for this very thing! the boycott, not the loss of $5... these are the good old days! pucker up and you just might live to enjoy
it!
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Mike99km
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From a surfers point of view I think it great! Surf k39 with 3 other guys at head high at noon is the best.
The human side of me see's friends hurting from the lack of any business and no change in the near future. These good people that are stuck in a very
hard spot.
The story is accurate. if you're not comfortable with the risk stay home. I for one will leave tonight and spend my $5.00 for a very good time.
1000lbBlue, I had had to cancel 2 trips in the last 2 years because of people backing out. Now I just go alone when they bail . If you see a guy with
a silver dodge camping at a place that takes those big N.W. swells stop on in. I drink good micro brews.
You live the life you settle for.
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W. C. Fields.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Not impressed, at that link here is a little of what Serge Dedina says and his #1 warning (there are many more, go see):
"Does the media exaggerate the issue of the narco war and security in Baja the problem? Absolutely not. Anyone who travels south of the border should
be careful and concerned about security.
There are four things to be concerned with: 1) Getting caught in the crossfire of a narco-firefight; 2) Being robbed by narco gunmen; 3) Being robbed
by corrupt police officers; and 4) Being robbed by drug addicts and criminals in urban areas and more remote areas of the peninsula once perceived to
be very safe.
As someone who has spent the past 20 years working throughout the Peninsula, things have changed in Baja. The residents of the region are the first to
take the issue of security seriously. So here are some tips to help you stay safe:
1. Avoid travel south of the border if you can avoid it. Do you really need to eat overpriced fish tacos in Tijuana or Rosarito Beach?..."
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I think he nailed it.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Udo
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A few weeks ago my wife and I went to TJ for the Tequila Expo. A couple of weeks ago we went to Puerto Nuevo for some lobster, and in three weeks we
will be at La Mision for some good times again. Although this time we are exchanging our dollars for pesos. Better deal.
The killings and kidnappings are concentrated in TJ and Rosarito. Just stay away from those two places during the night and you'll be fine!
Udo
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Dave
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Just trying to do my part
| Quote: | Originally posted by woody in ob
many are praying for this very thing! the boycott, not the loss of $5 |
I'll trade the loss of $5 for a 30 point jump in average IQ...
Wouldn't you?
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Pescador
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
I'll trade the loss of $5 for a 30 point jump in average IQ...
Wouldn't you? |
Hey Dude, that is like, uh, an ugly thing, to like, lay on me, I think.
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woody with a view
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by woody in ob
many are praying for this very thing! the boycott, not the loss of $5 |
I'll trade the loss of $5 for a 30 point jump in average IQ...
Wouldn't you? |
i dunno, can you provide more info? 
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Dave
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It was obviously not meant for you
| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
Hey Dude, that is like, uh, an ugly thing, to like, lay on me, I think. |
I was speaking about people for whom English is a foreign language.
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bajabound2005
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Visiting Baja is a great thing to do! We LIVE here and love it. We are very aware of what's going on here...these shootings in El Rosario last week
even have us little more on edge. Yes, it can happen anywhere.
And when you leave your house to run to the store, no matter where you live, you might be involved in a car accident that kills you. The likelihood
of that is much higher than you being involved in any kind of the drug/gang/civil (?) war going on in Mexico. I'd rather die in Baja.
Friends don't let friends drink white zinfandel.
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HCR
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Isn't it wonderful how the U.S. of A. has been able to spread its culture re drugs throughout the world?
Send more $ W.--$400 million is obviously not enough and after all, what's another $400 million to a country as rich as America?
Use it up, wear it out, make do, or do without.
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bajabound2005
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I'm sorry, HCR, what the hell does that have to with this topic?
Friends don't let friends drink white zinfandel.
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Udo
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| Quote: | | I'd rather die in Baja. |
AMEN TO THAT BROTHER!
Udo
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woody with a view
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| Quote: | Originally posted by udowinkler
| Quote: | | I'd rather die in Baja. |
AMEN TO THAT BROTHER! |
i'd just as soon not die...'specially in baja!!!
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bajaandy
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i'd just as soon not die...'specially in baja!!! |
Amen to THAT!
subvert the dominant paradigm
"If you travel with a man, you must either fall out with him or make him your good friend."
JBL Noel
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | | Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by bajaandy
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i'd just as soon not die...'specially in baja!!! |
Amen to THAT! |
Amen !
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