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oatc
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puppies for sale
Mix of chihuahua and yorkie (chorkie)
2 brown and black male.
1 gold brown with white spots in her face.
1 brown and black female.
2 brown with with white spots in their faces.
I don't know if they will have long hair until they are 2 months old.
My cell telephone number is 612-154-1358
Adriana
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Marie-Rose
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PLEASE... do not tell us you are selling them
Just managed to adopt out a lovely small, long haired dashound (msp) cross... so many lovely, small, baja hounds available for free!!
Remember, when in Mexico, yes may be no and no may be
maybe!
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oatc
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Marie-Rose
PLEASE... do not tell us you are selling them
Just managed to adopt out a lovely small, long haired dashound (msp) cross... so many lovely, small, baja hounds available for free!!
[/Sorry, yes I am selling them, I have 14 street dogs and 9 small dogs (mine) and I use that money for the street dogs. If you are interest I have
dogs for adoption too. quote] |
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24baja
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I understand the need to adopt an animal, take in an animal, but I have a hard time with breeding, raising and selling animals to feed other animals,
there should be another way to make money to help with the adopted pets without bringing more animals into the situation. But kudos for trying to find
a solution.
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oatc
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I love animals, is hard for me to sell o give a dog for adoption. I don't breed animals to feed streets dogs, this was an accident, I only give a
reason why I am selling the dogs. And I don't want to be rude with no body, but is easy to judge a person, to give an opinion, to feel sorry for
something, but to make and effort to change the incorrect things, like street dogs, is not easy. And I hope no body take this like offence, because I
am no body to judge no body. I only want to find a really good persons that want to buy my puppies.
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Bajajack
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I suppose it's only an accident that you're trying to sell them instead of trying to find them a home, right!
\"take what you can, give nothing back!\"
We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the
American people.\'
Theodore Roosevelt 1907
We can have no \"50-50\" allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all.
Theodore Roosevelt
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comitan
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Adriana
Try posting on the bulletin board at CCC you will get nothing but sour opinions here.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Bajahowodd
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CCC? The store? California Conservation Corps? Cheat Code Central? Copyright Clearance Center? City Colleges of Chicago? Catechism of the Catholic
Church?
Just wanted to second comitan's recommendation.
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Cypress
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Jeez, All we need is a few more dogs!!!
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vandenberg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by comitan
you will get nothing but sour opinions here. |
And rightfully so.
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Woooosh
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I just placed a litter of lab puppies. All found great homes with friends and family (we kept two). Thought about selling one- to cover the shots
for the litter- but didn't.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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24baja
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I very rarely post a reaction to a somewhat political issue so I am sorry if my opinion offended someone, but I just don't get it, bringing more dogs
into the world to sell to pay for dogs that there are already too many of. And once again, Kudos (good job) trying to find a solution, but there has
to be another one, maybe an old fashioned yard sale would do it.
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bajabound2005
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why would you SELL these pups? Just give them away to good homes that promise to spay or neuter and get them their shots? We could go out and pick
up 25 pups right now in a 5 mile radius with the same "credentials" as these pups!
Friends don't let friends drink white zinfandel.
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LOSARIPES
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Well.... this posting has clearly ruffled some hyper-sensitive chicken's feathers.. what's the difference? Sold or given away.... the pups are here
and if Adriana has filled her house with street dogs I don't see any reason why she shouldn't try to help her noble cause. This has been clearly
explained above. Other "organizations" have created refuges for dogs and are failing miserably, if we go by what we see around us -see bajabound2005
above-. The funny thing is they don't SELL dogs but they do take money... lots of it through contributions made out of the goodness of some people's
heart... that's ok. They don't mean business but they make a living out of it.
There is an old, ancient Chinese adage I've just invented: Chill Out..!!
Adriana... try "photobucket" for picture postings... for those "La Paz challenged".... CCC could mean many things. If you can't figure it out you
don't deserve help... now if you are just trying to be funny (i.e. abusive with the newbie) nice try... you fell short of imagination on the 3C's
interpretation. I am sure you could have done better....(and I'm afraid you will...) I'll be Chinese now and chill out too I'll patiently wait for
the wrath of some come backs.. ahummmmmm......
Aripes
God bless America
and Baja tambien
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Marie-Rose
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LOSARIPES
Well taken... I hear you. And yes I guess it is a hyper-sensitive subject for me.
Recently I have seen too many situations in our bario where the neighbors are
breeding the cute little "white fluffy" breeds, and selling them to other locals who have no idea how much care they need. We have an over abundance
of these little dogs who are matted and dirty and full of flees and ticks and dying of erlichea. We also have many german shepherds and malamutes
being bred and sold. They are being sold because people are buying them as status symbols but they are roaming around free as they have always done.
I know that this is just the way it is, but the fact that they are breeding these dogs often and on purpose is just hard for me to watch and accept...
I did not mean to judge oatc, as I do not know what her situation is.
Remember, when in Mexico, yes may be no and no may be
maybe!
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rpleger
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I bet those puppies are really cute...good luck with them
Richard on the Hill
*ABROAD*, adj. At war with savages and idiots. To be a Frenchman abroad is to
be miserable; to be an American abroad is to make others miserable.
-- Ambrose Bierce, _The Enlarged Devil\'s Dictionary_
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longlegsinlapaz
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The majority of people who posted here were mighty quick to attack a newbie & stand in judgment of her without even asking for some facts.
The existence of these puppies, as she stated when initially challenged was not an intentional breeding, it was something that
happened because of the overwhelming amount of dogs temporarily in her care. Did anyone bother to ask why she currently has 14
street dogs in her care? No! You chose to take a superior attitude & make assumptions!
Anyone care to make a guess how much it costs to house, feed, provide required medical care & buy collars for 14 dogs? The collars are necessary
because when there's a street dog "round-up", uncollared dogs are picked up & destroyed. She's saving, at present, 14 street dogs from starving,
disease, abuse & almost certain death. I say "at present" because the number of dogs in her care can & does change from day-to-day.
Oh! But wait! There IS a dog refuge here in the immediate area! One who states publicly on their website (http://www.bajadogshelplineoflapaz.org/index.php) how much they help strays, that they spay & neuter & what good & loving care they
provide. If the information posted at the website is a true & accurate portrayal of reality, then why wouldn't Adriana have taken the 14 strays
she's currently caring for to the refuge? The bottom-line truth of the matter is that she can't afford to! You see, they refuse to take dogs without
a minimum $200 peso "donation" per animal! What is posted publicly on the website, what was stated recently on a radio program & a television
interview is in direct conflict to what happens in reality. Contrary to what was stated on the radio & television broadcasts, the refuge
currently has less than half of their stated capacity. This information provided by staff and other people who are up there several times a week.
They continue to take donations, yet they refuse to accept any more animals...am I the only one who finds something wrong with this picture?
Lest anyone think I'm basing my information on unverifiable rumors, I personally picked up an injured dog on the highway who'd been hit by a car. We
saw the dog laying at the edge of the hwy 6-8 blocks from the original refuge site on the hwy in Centenario & rushed it to Baja Dogs where the
co-owner of the refuge refused to accept the dog or have the then on-site vet treat it.
I personally know many people who have attempted to take animals into the shelter only to be turned away. Injured animals, starving animals, pregnant
tick & flea infested animals, as well as healthy strays...it makes no difference, some have been refused even with an offer of a "donation".
IMO, the "refuge" was a wonderful idea, unfortunately, I believe it falls short in the actual implementation of the original dream and it's publicized
mission statement. Many local Mexicans & gringos alike are extremely disappointed in the refuge's failure to come close to meeting their mission
statement.
The fact of life here is most simply cannot afford a "donation". That means they have two choices...to pay for the cost of medical care if the animal
is sick or injured out of their own pocket...or to re-abandon the animal to almost certain death on the streets.
Adriana has begged, pleaded & finagled free or discounted medical treatment for animals from nearly every vet in La Paz! To the point that many
vets are no longer willing to give her a break on the cost. And she only takes them to a vet if diagnosis or treatment is beyond her knowledge or
ability, i.e., broken bones, internal injuries, laboratory tests. She bathes & grooms, treats for mange & gives shots herself.
How her trying to make money through the sale of some unplanned puppies to support caring for street dogs which the "refuge" has & continues to
refuse to take in & help can be viewed as greedy or inappropriate by the majority of posters here is beyond me! Adriana is more open & honest
in her efforts to help the street dogs of La Paz than the animal "refuge" which was purportedly established to do so. She doesn't turn animals away,
she takes then home & then finds a way to pay for their care. Unlike the "refuge, she doesn't turn her back on them for lack of funds.
The "refuge" gets a lot of money through fund-raisers & donations, yet they blatantly refuse to honor their public mission statement on a daily
basis. I know some who have posted here support the "refuge", and I applaud your efforts to help street dogs. I know some of you also get personally
involved, like Marie-Rose having found a new home for a street dog recently & I believe several others in the past.
So please don't be so quick to negatively judge a truly caring & compassionate individual who puts every centavo she can earn towards the care of
street dogs. When she is able to find a good home for these dogs, she does follow-up visits to their new homes to ensure their ongoing well-being.
It was Adriana who came up with & initially implemented the program to go into the local grade schools to educate kids on responsible &
respectful treatment of animals.
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DianaT
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Thanks longlegs for your post and information.
Baja is often not an easy place for animal lovers to be---too many street animals in need of care and it sounds like she can't turn them away.
Diane
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comitan
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Well Legs as usual well said and very enlightening because I have heard from other sources confirming what you have said about BajaDogs.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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vandenberg
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I hereby offer my apology. Had no idea and was jumping to conclusions. Thanks for setting me straight Carol.
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