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k-rico
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Corrupt Government Officials
They're everywhere.
Crimes at the Border
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RD55
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Interesting news clip. The Crimes at the Border film clip by Lowell Bergman is 30 minutes long. For those who don't want to watch the whole
thing, here's some highlights.
47:30 Interview with a smuggler.
Narrator: After migrants are repatriated, (the smuggler) told us that as soon as people go through the gate, smugglers are waiting to pick them up for
another try because part of the new way of doing business is: migrants don't have to pay until they are safely delivered into the United States.
Smuggler: You can always try again. You can keep trying. Because there's no problem keeping keep trying. But usually people that wanna go across
the states, they will get across the states.
Narrator: But he said there's one guaranteed way to get across on your first try: A corrupt U.S. Border Official willing to take a bribe.
Smuggler: I know. I have known inspectors that are crooked. Other people have worked with them. But you would never talk about them and you will
never say you have one because it's uh it's your golden um ticket, your meal ticket because those are like very very hard to catch. They will make a
lot of money because it's... it's like fail safe. It's secure.
39:30 More of the interview with the smuggler.
Narrator: Is the smuggling business organized?
Smuggler: It's not a monopoly. It's a lot of people, a lot of families.
Narrator: Even small operations pay off the drug cartels for protection and for permission to operate.
Smuggler: The small ones will talk to the organized crime in Tijuana and be like "Ok so we are polleros. How much are you going to charge us a month
to leave us alone and that the cops to leave us alone?" And the price varies from how big the organization is. There's people that pays up to 25,000
dollars a month.
31:40 Interview with Wayne Cornelius, a professor at UCSD who is an expert on immigration.
Wayne Cornelius: Our research shows that fewer than half of those who come to this border are apprehended. And of those who are caught, all but
about 3% eventually get through.
Narrator: So you're saying that 97% of the people who try to get across this border here, get across eventually.
Wayne Cornelius: If they don't succeed on the first try, they almost certainly will succeed on the second or the third try.
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You have to watch most of the 30 minutes to see how the FBI busted the CBP Official at the Port of Entry.
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DENNIS
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Thanks for both. It's a sick world....isn't it.
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rpleger
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Very interesting, very...
Richard on the Hill
*ABROAD*, adj. At war with savages and idiots. To be a Frenchman abroad is to
be miserable; to be an American abroad is to make others miserable.
-- Ambrose Bierce, _The Enlarged Devil\'s Dictionary_
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Bajajorge
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I just can't believe that there is corruption in Mexico.    
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Santiago
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Back in the 1980's I was close to a group of guys working in the local Border Patrol office. By 1990 2 of the men in their office were serving time
for helping smugglers and 1 was convicted of smuggling jeans from China. (Jeans: please refrain from making some dopey comment, OK?)
They also said that the going rate for a northbound semi to cross the border unmolested was $10,000 'merican. Have no idea if this was or is true -
but this tidbit slipped out after a couple of cases of beer. FWIW
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Cypress
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A couple cases of beer? The US senators will only settle for regional
dealership/franchise operational control.
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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rpleger
Very interesting, very... |
It is interesting because if you extrapolate what is being observed to the day when the entire wall is built you get to the situation where all
illegal aliens are going through the official points of entry.
That means more cars going north will need to be searched. The more cars being searched the closer the border becomes to being shut down because of
the increased time required to get across.
[Edited on 6-24-2009 by k-rico]
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
| Quote: | Originally posted by rpleger
Very interesting, very... |
It is interesting because if you extrapolate what is being observed to the day when the entire wall is built you get to the situation where all
illegal aliens are going through the official points of entry.
That means more cars going north will need to be searched. The more cars being searched the closer the border becomes to being shut down because of
the increased time required to get across.
[Edited on 6-24-2009 by k-rico] |
...not to mention, the cost of building the wall...
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slimshady
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Corruption in countries like Mexico can be found from the top to the bottom. Here in the U.S. corruption is found at the top. Its called campaign
contributions, kickbacks, and donations.
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Bajajack
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Mexicans and Gypsies have a lot in common, they're both taught by their parents and relatives as soon as they learn to talk how scam and use the
system.
Just the way it is.
\"take what you can, give nothing back!\"
We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the
American people.\'
Theodore Roosevelt 1907
We can have no \"50-50\" allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all.
Theodore Roosevelt
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Terry28
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That sounds a little racist to me...
Mexico!! Where two can live as cheaply as one.....but it costs twice as much.....
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estebanis
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And how was the wall of China penetrated by the mongols?
Bribery to a Gate Guard...
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Doug/Vamonos
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My wife works with a woman who is always dressed nicely. Nice jewelry, nice car. She's hispanic (US citizen). She gets her extra money driving to TJ
and coming back with illegal children she passes off as her own. $5,000 a pop. She says she's been doing it for years and knows lots of people who do
the same.
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arrowhead
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Terry28
That sounds a little racist to me... |
Hmmmm. I never knew that Mexicans were a race. I always thought they were a nationality, like Poles, Swedes, Italians, etc.
Just curious, what race are Mexicans? I know about 30% are pure native indians. What are the other 70%?
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Bajahowodd
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That's a curious point. There are only three officially recognized races. Caucasian, Negroid and Mongoloid. It is within the Mongoloid race that the
native Americans fall. There has been a creeping tendency to consider Mexicans non-White. Yet, there are obviously many Mexican of pure European
ancestry. But, for the most part, the Mexican who emmigrated to the US tended to be the poor Mestizos whose blood lines blended with the native blood.
What I clearly remember from school many decades ago was being taught that Mexicans were Caucasian.
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Bajajack
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Educated mexicans in mexico are much more racist than most Americans. No white skinned mex of Spanish extraction associates with the lower class
browns or the indios except the me Boss-you Peasant scenario.
\"take what you can, give nothing back!\"
We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the
American people.\'
Theodore Roosevelt 1907
We can have no \"50-50\" allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all.
Theodore Roosevelt
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Cypress
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Vaious groups in the USA have turned the racism issue into a cash cow.  If your
dumb enough to buy into it then open up your wallet.
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toneart
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Racism:
This string was about corrupt U.S. border guards. How did it get corrupted into a racist commentary on Mexicans? When racists vent, it is because that
is what they are, and that is what they do at any opportunity.
The discussion of "what race are Mexicans" is interesting, but doesn't define why Mexicans are discriminated against. Racism is a discriminatory
attitude with disdain towards people who are of a different color or culture than themselves. It presumes a superior self-image, and those who are
being discriminated against are considered inferior. The U.S.A. is not unique to Racism, but it certainly is pervasive here. Much of it is intended
and overt. However, some people are so lacking in consciousness that they don't even know they are Racist.
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I spent 38 years in Baja Calif. I started picking cotton at the age of 6 with the Mexicano families that came up each season to make money for their
families.
I lived in the Central valley of Calif. for many years, I sold tools to many Mexicanos , I have worked in the Melons, the Wine Grapes, and on the
Daires with many Mexicanos.
Let me tell some of you that they are every bit as Human as you people are putting them down.
Have any of you every been Hungry???
Have any of you wanted better things for you and your families???
I think it is High time some of you took a trip to Mexico and found out what the Mexican People are really like instead of beleiving the Internet Nuts
that are full of BS.
Skeet/Loreto
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