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[*] posted on 8-11-2009 at 10:19 PM
The trouble with Mulege


I think some of us from this area should know the troubled financial situation Mulege is in as well as other communities.

The recession has hit our area causing problems with our local governments. Evidently it is approaching two months for Mulege city employees not being paid. The city is out of money. Similar situation in Santa Rosalia. The Mulege employees went on strike for a week, but that did not do any good! Both cities have had the power/electricity cut to the government offices for over a month. Here in Mulege the account payable office now runs a extension cord from a nearby house so they can run the computers and accept payments. Local phone lines do not work but if you have a personal cell phone number of a local employee you might be able to reach. Last week a person told me they went to city hall to pay tax and they could not accept because the computers did not work because there was no electricity!

The city employees have had to borrow money or ask for credit to buy goods. Normally when this happens La Paz comes to the rescue. Bailing out the communities with monies. Now the La Paz government has told the Mulege communities it does not have the money to help them.....they are on their own.

The electric company has not shut off the electricity for the water pump for the city but is cutting service for part of the day for local users. This has made some users to use the river water. Below the Mulege bridge there is a pump running direct to the river filling water trucks for irrigation and animal watering.

I am estimating local tourism at 25% of normal furthering finacial distress. We have had local officials ask us if we can pay taxes and fees in advance because of the local financial mess. So beware of the communities trying everything to collect and raise some cash!
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[*] posted on 8-11-2009 at 10:51 PM


Very Sorry to hear this. Its the little kids of the poorer familys that it hurts the most and that is a pity. Hope thingswill get better soon. ++C++
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[*] posted on 8-11-2009 at 10:54 PM


Tell the mayor, the governor, and all his friends and families, to sell their Cadillac Escalades that they bought with the money they have been stealing for years.



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[*] posted on 8-12-2009 at 06:47 AM


With the governor retiring there you would think he would help out somehow...at least that's the rumor...maybe take some of the new malecon monies and pay the electricity bill...duh!



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[*] posted on 8-12-2009 at 07:06 AM


Sounds as though Mulege is in for some very creative taxation. Watch those stop signs closely, folks.
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[*] posted on 8-12-2009 at 07:11 AM


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Tell the mayor, the governor, and all his friends and families, to sell their Cadillac Escalades that they bought with the money they have been stealing for years.


The have created an untenable situation for attracting any tourists ... now they are rotting in a world of their own creation.




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[*] posted on 8-12-2009 at 07:13 AM


all the villages in this municipality are in the same boat...we tried to pay our taxes here but they dont have the bills organized...so silly as this could be a good sum of money for the village office. Ours still has electricity though....probably due to some lot sales recently....things are tough all over.



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[*] posted on 8-12-2009 at 07:26 AM


i get water all the time in town...
the problem is NOT the electricty

there are 2 pumps for the town and
one is not working up to par
it's sucking sand and air
and the pressure is down

people from guerrero negro santa rosalia and
constitution have all been there to check out the problem

the town needs a new pump
the part in the ground
the electrical part is fine

the water dept is allocating water to
different parts of the town at
different times of the day to keep the pump working
so no one gets water 24-7 right now

there is a request out for extra money
to repair or replace the pump

the water dept is doing its best
with what they have

there were 2 days that there was no electricty
at the pump but it was because
a truck rammed the meter

cfe took 2 days for repair
they had to replace parts
the truck driver was lucky he didn't get killed
the current is 440v




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[*] posted on 8-12-2009 at 08:28 AM


Another example of how the municipality is "making money":
A friend went to the court house in February to buy his tax sticker for the car > MX lic.plate. He was told that there are no stickers @ that time.
He went back in June to try again and was told to be fined first.
When he complained and pointed out that there are so many mexican cars with no license plate at all, so those folks are not paying anything, he was told: "Well, we Mexicans are poor. So we have to get our money from the foreigners."
Although I am Mexican, I can not tolerate such an argumentation.
It prevents tourists to come to Mexico and Mulege in particular.
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[*] posted on 8-12-2009 at 10:24 AM


The combination of drug violence, swine flu, recession, and lower petroleum production, has dramatically damaged goverment finances. In good times, Mexicans where "tolerant" to some point of goverment corruption, but in these hard times, theres a lot of angry people that are now paying a lot of attention to all that corruption. In two years theres elections for Governor, and i predict the current party in power, PRD, will lose badly if it doesn't change its ways.



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[*] posted on 8-12-2009 at 10:37 AM


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Another example of how the municipality is "making money":
A friend went to the court house in February to buy his tax sticker for the car > MX lic.plate. He was told that there are no stickers @ that time.
He went back in June to try again and was told to be fined first.
When he complained and pointed out that there are so many mexican cars with no license plate at all, so those folks are not paying anything, he was told: "Well, we Mexicans are poor. So we have to get our money from the foreigners."
Although I am Mexican, I can not tolerate such an argumentation.
It prevents tourists to come to Mexico and Mulege in particular.


Do you really think that is what is keeping tourists at bay? You should already understand that many visitors to Mulege are simply enroute to other southern destinations so I wouldn't rush to explain why Mulege is doing so poorly.




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[*] posted on 8-12-2009 at 10:46 AM


The drug cartel/ police/ military killings and occaisional rare tourist murder reports on flashed for months on U.S. news is the #1 reason for lack of tourism (IMO).

The U.S. and global bad economy is the #2 reason (IMO).

False arrest/ traffic ticketing by Mexican police (mordida) is the #3 reason (IMO).

Taxing tourists (since mid 2000) for an FM-T hasn't been wise and doesn't help large families decide on a Mexico vacation, with US$20+ per person just to get in.




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[*] posted on 8-12-2009 at 10:53 AM


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The drug cartel/ police/ military killings and occaisional rare tourist murder reports on flashed for months on U.S. news is the #1 reason for lack of tourism (IMO).

The U.S. and global bad economy is the #2 reason (IMO).

False arrest/ traffic ticketing by Mexican police (mordida) is the #3 reason (IMO).

Taxing tourists (since mid 2000) for an FM-T hasn't been wise and doesn't help large families decide on a Mexico vacation, with US$20+ per person just to get in.


I 100% agree!!!

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[*] posted on 8-12-2009 at 10:59 AM


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The drug cartel/ police/ military killings and occaisional rare tourist murder reports on flashed for months on U.S. news is the #1 reason for lack of tourism (IMO).

The U.S. and global bad economy is the #2 reason (IMO).

False arrest/ traffic ticketing by Mexican police (mordida) is the #3 reason (IMO).

Taxing tourists (since mid 2000) for an FM-T hasn't been wise and doesn't help large families decide on a Mexico vacation, with US$20+ per person just to get in.


All that and not one mention of the dreaded Swine Flu. I guess enough is enough.
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[*] posted on 8-12-2009 at 11:40 AM


While I do agree with David that charging for the FM-T can have a discouraging effect on Mexico tourism, I will take issue with the order of his reasons. The fact is that the hospitality industry is in the toilet everywhere. Hotel occupancy has fallen over the edge. A recent survey said that in California alone, 250 hotels are either in default or lender-owned. It's more the economy than anything.
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[*] posted on 8-12-2009 at 11:57 AM
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I have heard the Governor went on a round the world trip to promote baja.

I have heard the Government sent a brother/cousin to participate in the South Africa marlin tournament. Representing Cabo San Lucas and Baja.

Years back politicians would give away a bag of beans and a bag of rice to get your vote.

Santa Rosalia has a overstaffed government. Every time there is an election the winner awards lots of jobs to helpers and promoters of the campaign. This has created and abundance of city workers. Many of these workers join a union to help protect their jobs in the future. It is very hard to lay-off city workers so the deficit keeps on building.

Political parties show up in the community declaring a political celebration. No more rice and beans! Lots of presents get raffled. Good stuff too! New refrigerators, stoves and other gifts. Could this be a way to buy votes for the party at taxpayers expense?

Please don't get me wrong.....I love Mexico, it is just the way it is!
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[*] posted on 8-12-2009 at 12:00 PM


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The drug cartel/ police/ military killings and occaisional rare tourist murder reports on flashed for months on U.S. news is the #1 reason for lack of tourism (IMO).

The U.S. and global bad economy is the #2 reason (IMO).

False arrest/ traffic ticketing by Mexican police (mordida) is the #3 reason (IMO).

Taxing tourists (since mid 2000) for an FM-T hasn't been wise and doesn't help large families decide on a Mexico vacation, with US$20+ per person just to get in.


All that and not one mention of the dreaded Swine Flu. I guess enough is enough.


Thanks Dennis... I totally forgot about the stupid flu that will kill us all! LOL




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[*] posted on 8-12-2009 at 12:03 PM


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While I do agree with David that charging for the FM-T can have a discouraging effect on Mexico tourism, I will take issue with the order of his reasons. The fact is that the hospitality industry is in the toilet everywhere. Hotel occupancy has fallen over the edge. A recent survey said that in California alone, 250 hotels are either in default or lender-owned. It's more the economy than anything.


I am basing the order on Baja tourism and what I hear from Nomads, people who email me on my VivaBaja.com web site asking questions and personal interaction... The economy is not hurting travel to Baja (a cheap vacation compared to other destinations) as much as the hostility near the border has.




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[*] posted on 8-12-2009 at 12:07 PM


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Thanks Dennis... I totally forgot about the stupid flu that will kill us all! LOL



I hope not, David. I hear the president of Costa Rica just picked up a dose of it.
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[*] posted on 8-12-2009 at 12:24 PM


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Originally posted by David K
The drug cartel/ police/ military killings and occaisional rare tourist murder reports on flashed for months on U.S. news is the #1 reason for lack of tourism (IMO).

The U.S. and global bad economy is the #2 reason (IMO).

False arrest/ traffic ticketing by Mexican police (mordida) is the #3 reason (IMO).

Taxing tourists (since mid 2000) for an FM-T hasn't been wise and doesn't help large families decide on a Mexico vacation, with US$20+ per person just to get in.


All that and not one mention of the dreaded Swine Flu. I guess enough is enough.

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