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Osprey
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Nomads and the art of persuasion
Mushy
The Baja Nomad board is never boring. One reason is that many members hold onto their beliefs with unyielding grasps; refuse to swerve from long-held
personal views and opinions on a staggering array of subjects.
I usually stay out of the sometimes heated discourse that comes about when two strong-willed people have antipodal positions on a subject but I am
awestruck at times that they can keep such resolve in the face of very well couched arguments. The reason I find it all so interesting is that I have
always been kind of wishy-washy, lacking the conviction shown by those posters I speak of.
It goes back a ways because I can remember thinking strongly about some things that later meant almost nothing to me. I have been known to give up and
give in right in the middle of arguments (sometimes near the beginning, truth be told). Could Baja Nomads be a secret bunch of college debate team
alumni who can’t let go of the past? For whatever reason some of the banter goes point-counter-point for days and I am often bounced about like a
shuttle c-ck as my convictions swing from one solidly stated point of view to the opposite.
Sometimes I wonder if the combatants know I’m out here with some of my inconsistent cousins and they just enjoy bouncing me around. On certain
subjects, on particular days I’m sure that’s the case but then I could be mistaken. It is very difficult to take in all these well-worded facts and
opinions, evaluate them and know exactly what to accept, what to reject. Most of the time I jump right over Hobson and run smack into a dreaded false
dilemma.
Anyway, keep up the good work. Please be careful with your grammar and check your invectives at the door.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
shuttle c-ck
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 Talk about being rigid..the machine has us all beat.
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shari
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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gracias graceful bird....an open mind is a healthy mind.
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Bajahowodd
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Shuttlec-ck
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tripledigitken
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Shuttlec-ck/feather
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DENNIS
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Perhaps I shouldn't have used the word, "Rigid."
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BajaGringo
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Mood: Let's have a BBQ!
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astrobaja
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Well said Osprey! Like Obi Wan Kenobi said "Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view"
\"There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear
and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.There is another theory which states that this has already happened\"
Douglas Adams
our website: http://bajadarkskies.com |
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by astrobaja
Like Obi Wan Kenobi said "Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view" |
I'm glad Obi said it and not you.
"Truths we cling to"
"Our point of view"
This is so repeatedly redundant that it's repeatedly redundant.
Kinda like saying, "It'll feel better when it stops hurting."
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Osprey
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I meant a chicken on a van from the airport
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Taco de Baja
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Truth generally lies in the coordination of antagonistic opinions. 
Truth generally lies in the coordination of antagonistic opinions
-Herbert Spencer
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Taco de Baja
Truth generally lies in the coordination of antagonistic opinions.
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Interesting.
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lies - 4 dictionary results
lie1 /laɪ/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [lahy] Show IPA noun, verb, lied, ly⋅ing.
Use lies in a Sentence
–noun 1. a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.
2. something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture: His flashy car was a lie that deceived no one.
3. an inaccurate or false statement.
4. the charge or accusation of lying: He flung the lie back at his accusers.
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BajaGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Taco de Baja
Truth generally lies in the coordination of antagonistic opinions.
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Interesting.
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lies - 4 dictionary results
lie1 /laɪ/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [lahy] Show IPA noun, verb, lied, ly⋅ing.
Use lies in a Sentence
–noun 1. a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.
2. something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture: His flashy car was a lie that deceived no one.
3. an inaccurate or false statement.
4. the charge or accusation of lying: He flung the lie back at his accusers. |
And then there's the Biblical interpretation...
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
And then there's the Biblical interpretation... |
This one?
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lie2 /laɪ/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [lahy] Show IPA verb, lay, lain, ly⋅ing, noun
–verb (used without object) 1. to be in a horizontal, recumbent, or prostrate position, as on a bed or the ground; recline.
2. (of objects) to rest in a horizontal or flat position: The book lies on the table.
3. to be or remain in a position or state of inactivity, subjection, restraint, concealment, etc.: to lie in ambush.
4. to rest, press, or weigh (usually fol. by on or upon): These things lie upon my mind.
5. to depend (usually fol. by on or upon).
6. to be placed or situated: land lying along the coast.
7. to be stretched out or extended: the broad plain that lies before us.
8. to be in or have a specified direction; extend: The trail from here lies to the west.
9. to be found or located in a particular area or place: The fault lies here.
10. to consist or be grounded (usually fol. by in): The real remedy lies in education.
11. to be buried in a particular spot: Their ancestors lie in the family plot.
12. Law. to be sustainable or admissible, as an action or appeal.
13. Archaic. to lodge; stay the night; sojourn.
–noun 14. the manner, relative position, or direction in which something lies.
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Bajahowodd
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Osprey- it's your fault for warning people to watch their grammar, but failed to mention spelling. btw, my grammar is no longer with us.
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Osprey
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What fun! Thanks to those few who took my spelling test.
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tripledigitken
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I'm still trying to decide to take direction from a fictional character!
Ken
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Osprey
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The Osprey will always live in the hearts of those who love the sea (and Cheese Nips).
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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
I'm still trying to decide to take direction from a fictional character!
Ken |
HA! Billions of people do just that. Nothing wrong with it, dead, alive, or fictional, no difference.
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DavidT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
What fun! Thanks to those few who took my spelling test. |
Have you ever read "The Phantom Tollbooth"?
I can still see the Spelling Bee and the Humbug fighting in the market.
David
Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious.
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