SDRonni
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48 Hours
Anyone watch 48 Hours last night? It was all on the kidnapping of the Hall family back in November '07. They are so lucky to be alive. What a
harrowing experience for these people. Don't mean to rehash what's been on this board before, but actually seeing the victims and hearing the story
from their own mouths was chilling. In spite of it all, they still had wonderful things to say about their past experiences in Mexico.......so
sad......
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Mexicorn
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I saw it. I have to agree it's got be tough on tourism. I belive thier story is acurate. We must be vigilant as Americans living in Mexico. I
personaly have stopped driving after sundown as I live in the Plaza.
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lizard lips
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That was the mistake they made--- DO NOT DRIVE TO THE BORDER AT NIGHT.
I saw this story this morning on 48hrs this morning and they really are lucky to be alive. When I hear people say "This could have happened in the
US", I really doubt it. Traveling on a major Mexican highway and being pulled over by by red lights and thinking it's the authorities and I better
pull over and have this happen. Anything is possible and it could have very well been the police but they did the right thing and pulled over.
I travel that road many times a month and never see the Mexican highway patrol except at the last toll gate in Ensenada where they shakedown all the
second hand store owners for their mordida. Next time you go through the last toll on a Wednesday you will see the highway patrol there because thats
when those pick ups filled up to the top with second hand stuff come down.
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It's available on www.cbs.com,
type in search box 'live to tell',
page will show Mystery Kidnap Hwy 1,
Baja vetern travellers car jacked
on Northern TJ toll raod, somewhere very ,close to
the border, would most of us react
as they did? That is to scratch mex off
your travel destinations? I think
so
[Edited on 1-3-2010 by sancho]
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Your right, "This could have happened in the US", Just ask Cara Knott. OH you can't she was killed by a CHP officer along I-15 in poway. See:
www.nctimes.com/news/local/article_96fc15b1-ae8e-5c7c-abf2-9...
We all have to be smart. The driving rules of Mexico are Never drive at night and if you have to never travel alone. They knew that and that is why
they had a hotel booked.
My wife pointed out after watching it that they continued to send their daughter to school after two students were killed there.
I think it just shows how bad things can happen anywhere at anytime. I feel very bad for them and pray that it never happens to me but I will continue
to travel in Baja and mainland mexico. Just like I drive down I-15
This also happened two years ago and I think the mexican officials are working hard to keep it form happening.
Sorry just my two cents
Mick
Getting there is ALL the fun!
Ok being here is fun to
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lizard lips
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Your right Mick. I'm glad that CHP officer got what was coming to him. Thanks for remembering that...
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Mexicorn
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| Quote: | Originally posted by audiobaja
Phoenix is the world's capital for kidnapping, last I heard. |
Supposedly #1 in the U.S........
Mexico City still #1 in the world.....
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allanbartlett
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I saw it. I don't think they wanted to drive to the border at night. Their hotel room in San Quintin was not there and then Mr Hall made the fateful
decision to drive back at night to the border. They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. It could have happened to anyone.
I have driven back to the border at night when I used to go to Baja more frequently, but I don't think I would drive the gauntlet again at night from
Ensenada.
The thing that keeps eating away at me is this...I know bad things can and do happen to people on our side of the border, but when something like this
happens in Mexico, the system is so corrupt that you really have no recourse as a crime victim. At least here, you have a reasonable chance of
getting justice from a system that is not 100% corrupt like in Mexico.
Having said all of this, I will go back to Baja again because it's so damn fun and an adventure.
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BajaWarrior
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Wow, I just watched it in it's entirety. I remember that incident well. I thought the trailer they were towing belonged to the McMillin Off Road
family and that the Hall family had borrowed it and that is why the thieves thought there was a buggy inside of it. I remember reading this on
raze-desert.com. There were other incidents in the same area at the same time resulting in roadside theft.
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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I don't think it was a case of "wrong place/wrong time." The perpetrators kept asking them "where's the race car." They were after something they
thought the family had. And what is also startling, is that once they were free to find their way home, they approached a house with its lights on,
around 3 am, and got shot at!! Thank God for the woman, Maria, who let them in her home and who arranged for their safe transport to the border. She
was a hero.
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Woooosh
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Crooks rob banks because "That's where the money is." Race car theives target vehicle trailers for the same reason.
If it was purely financial- why terroize the family and the sexual assault? ... simply because they could.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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| Quote: | Originally posted by audiobaja
Phoenix is the world's capital for kidnapping, last I heard. |
Phoenix is the US capital for illegal immigrant Mexicans kidnapping other illegal immigrants and holding them for ransom.
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by audiobaja
| Quote: | Originally posted by whistler
What got me was how callous and unsympathetic the US border officials were.They got better treatment from the Mexican police after the incident.
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me either. They basically tell you "you got what you deserved for going down there". From their perspective- they see people "limp" back across the
border all day long and wonder why people still find a reason to go down here.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Wahoo
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Best wishes to the Family.
Makes me very thankful again for every safe trip, I have made.
Made me a little sick 
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