BajaCactus
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Fuel prices / April 3rd, 2010
Magna.............$ 7.81 pesos per liter
Premium..........$ 9.39 pesos per liter
Diesel..............$ 8.21 pesos per liter
These prices are in liters... since 1 gallon = 3.7854 liters and today (April 3rd, 2010) 1 dollar = $12.20 pesos (+/-), we can calculate the
approximate price per gallon:
Magna.............$ 2.423 dollars per gallon
Premium..........$ 2.914 dollars per gallon
Diesel..............$ 2.547 dollars per gallon
Happy and safe travels my friends!!!
BajaCactus
"Where the Baja is so much more than a dream..."
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"Where Baja is so much more than a dream..."
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Bob and Susan
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soooo...
regular gas
mexico
$7.81 pesos a liter
$2.423 dollars a gallon
San Diego Average
$9.57204 pesos a liter
$2.97 dollars a gallon
Diesel
mexico
$8.21 pesos a liter
$2.55 dollars a gallon
San Diego Average
$9.96 pesos a liter
$3.09 dollars a gallon
soooo....
when you buy a 20 gallon tank of gas you save
$8.46 USA
since it takes me 80 gallons to drive to the border and
back to mulege i save
$33.84 USA per trip
of course last trip gas was $3.03 per gallon in california
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David K
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Thanks Antonio!
Wish we were there today in El Rosario...
About cheapest gas station in Oceanside yesterday was $2.95/ gallon.
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monoloco
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I am wondering why diesel now costs more than gasoline when it has always been less. This can't be good for an economy where everything is trucked in
from long distances. I'm surprised the truckers haven't gone on strike yet.
[Edited on 4-3-2010 by monoloco]
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bajalou
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Probably the same reason it costs more in the USA - required changes in formulas - UUSD etc.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalou
Probably the same reason it costs more in the USA - required changes in formulas - UUSD etc. |
ULSD is something a lot of Nomad refuse to believe exists in Baja, despite what Baja Cactus (El Rosario) has been selling for over two years now...
and he gets his fuel at the same depot near Ensenada that all the Pemex stations on Hwy. 1 in Baja (norte) Ca. get their fuel.
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chippy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
I am wondering why diesel now costs more than gasoline when it has always been less. This can't be good for an economy where everything is trucked in
from long distances. I'm surprised the truckers haven't gone on strike yet.
[Edited on 4-3-2010 by monoloco] |
I believe they stopped subsidizing diesel a couple of years ago.
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GeoRock
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I will be happy to pay such low prices as I head south this week~
I've been paying $3.579 in Mammoth Lakes,
$3.99 a gallon in Bridgeport,
$3.03 in Stateline/Topaz Lake/ Nevada
$3.04 in Minden, NV
$3.67 in June Lake, CA
$3.47 in Bishop, CA
These are all for regular gasoline, per gallon, as of Friday April 9th.
Anything under 3 bucks looks like a bargain to me!
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | soooo....
when you buy a 20 gallon tank of gas you save
$8.46 USA
since it takes me 80 gallons to drive to the border and
back to mulege i save
$33.84 USA per trip
of course last trip gas was $3.03 per gallon in california |
and Mexico trucks the crude up to CA for refining into gasoline, then trucks it back down here to sell at much cheaper price. God bless MX government
subsidy.
Bob Durrell
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by GeoRock
I will be happy to pay such low prices as I head south this week~
I've been paying $3.579 in Mammoth Lakes,
$3.99 a gallon in Bridgeport,
$3.03 in Stateline/Topaz Lake/ Nevada
$3.04 in Minden, NV
$3.67 in June Lake, CA
$3.47 in Bishop, CA
These are all for regular gasoline, per gallon, as of Friday April 9th.
Anything under 3 bucks looks like a bargain to me! |
The lowest I saw driving around SD County yesterday (helping Sarah move into her own apartment) was $2.99... On Friday I filled up at the AM/PM Arco
along I-5 in Carlsbad (Tamarak exit) was $3.05... other brands were $3.11 and up.
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BajaBruno
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| Quote: |
and Mexico trucks the crude up to CA for refining into gasoline, then trucks it back down here to sell at much cheaper price. God bless MX government
subsidy.
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Mexico does refine some products in the US, but they have quite a bit of capacity themselves.
Minatitlan Refinery (Pemex) 170,000 bpd
Cadereyta Refinery (Pemex) 292,000 bpd
Tula Refinery (Pemex) 320,000 bpd
Salamanca Refinery (Pemex) 236,000 bpd
Ciudad Madero Refinery (Pemex) 190,000 bpd
Salina Cruz Refinery (Pemex) 320,000 bpd
And, they might disagree that they "subsidize" gas. Mexicans regard oil as a national resource that belongs to the people, not to only the wealthy
business elites. Most other oil exporting nations feel the same.
Christopher Bruno, Elk Grove, CA.
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Howard
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Last tuesday paid 8.7 peso's for Magna in Guerrero Negro and 8.1 pesos day before yesterday in Tecate.
We don't stop playing because we grow old;
we grow old because we stop playing
George Bernard Shaw
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Howard
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My “over under” on whether to buy gas in Baja is around .50 a gallon. The way I figure it, by the time I get a guaranteed fair pour in the USA and
use my 5% rebate credit card in the states, any thing under a posted price of .50 a gallon makes more sense to me. Maybe I am a skeptic, but I always
question if you get a fair pour in Mexico even with the new gasoline pumps. What it is is what it is unless I get close to the border and then make a
decision where to buy.
I just put around 60 gallons in my RV crossing from Tecate into California and saved around $50.
We don't stop playing because we grow old;
we grow old because we stop playing
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woody with a view
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i put premium in SOB because of all the cargo weight and it is still cheaper than regular NOB. a little extra octane for the cheaper price is alright,
right?
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | | Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by BajaBruno
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and Mexico trucks the crude up to CA for refining into gasoline, then trucks it back down here to sell at much cheaper price. God bless MX government
subsidy.
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Mexico does refine some products in the US, but they have quite a bit of capacity themselves.
Minatitlan Refinery (Pemex) 170,000 bpd
Cadereyta Refinery (Pemex) 292,000 bpd
Tula Refinery (Pemex) 320,000 bpd
Salamanca Refinery (Pemex) 236,000 bpd
Ciudad Madero Refinery (Pemex) 190,000 bpd
Salina Cruz Refinery (Pemex) 320,000 bpd
And, they might disagree that they "subsidize" gas. Mexicans regard oil as a national resource that belongs to the people, not to only the wealthy
business elites. Most other oil exporting nations feel the same. |
They are currently building a refinery in Hidalgo to add to capacity. The US refined Pemex is primarily sold in the border regions. However, it's
unlikely that "trucking" is the method being used. Mexico sends huge quantities of crude to the US via tankers and pipelines. Mexico is the number two
foreign supplier of crude to the US. Obviously, most of the refined product is sold in the US. However, a certain amount does get shipped to the
Northern Mexico areas, primarily because Mexico lacks refinery capacity in its Northern regions, and it is more economical to use refined product that
is produced closer to where it is sold.
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texascarwasher
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Fuel Prices
I know that this may sound stupid but here goes. Does Mexico import any crude and if so from whom?
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BajaBruno
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| Quote: | Originally posted by texascarwasher
I know that this may sound stupid but here goes. Does Mexico import any crude and if so from whom? |
Not stupid, because the answer seems to be a little confusing. According to a 2003 report, Mexico is a crude oil exporter, but it "imports gasoline,
propane and petrochemicals worth billions of dollars a year."
The report critical of Mexico's lack of petrochemical production capacity is here: http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/mexico/pemex-petrochemic...
Christopher Bruno, Elk Grove, CA.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
God bless MX government subsidy. |
how do you know that govt subsidizes petrol? i think petrol businesses still deliver a profit to govt --
anywho, the petrol resource belongs to the citizens, so why should they pay premium market rates driven up by european and american overconsumption?
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Bob and Susan
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money earmarked for fuel subsidies is more than what mexico spends annually on education
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djh
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Thanks, Antonio !
Filled up at your station 3/27 heading South :-).
Fair prices, plesant staff, honest pumps, and a fine Nomad.
Its all just stuff and some numbers.
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Peace, Love, and Music
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