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[*] posted on 6-6-2010 at 06:46 PM
Tipping at grocery stores in Mexico


Many long-time residents of Mexico already know, but ocassional visitors may not be aware that most (if not all)baggers at Mexican grocery stores work for tips only. While doing research on tourism in La Paz, one of the groups I interviewed were baggers, who reported that foreigners often didn't tip. As I doubt most Americans would be so tight with a few pesos if they knew such information, I'm assuming that this oversight is simply a matter of not knowing this detail.
Please tip the baggers, they need it more than we do.
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[*] posted on 6-6-2010 at 06:52 PM


I'm thinking it's those Canadian-type foreigners who don't tip them... :biggrin::biggrin:

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[*] posted on 6-6-2010 at 06:55 PM


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I'm sorry tripper but I think you got took, we all know to tip, I have a friend who's son is a bagger they make 200-300 pesos a day its a good job. Lately there are many more older people bagging because it is a good job.




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[*] posted on 6-6-2010 at 07:06 PM


but you know what ? for a long time I didnt realize I was supposed to tip .... now I ALWAYS tip :)




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[*] posted on 6-6-2010 at 07:08 PM


Well, I sure did not know. I have never even thought of tipping a bagger, assuming they were employees of the store.

Thanks for correcting that.

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[*] posted on 6-6-2010 at 07:14 PM


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...foreigners often didn't tip.


Or tip too much. Seems to me there is quite often a scramble to bag the 'foreigners' bags.




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[*] posted on 6-6-2010 at 07:16 PM


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I have a friend who's son is a bagger they make 200-300 pesos a day its a good job. Lately there are many more older people bagging because it is a good job.


The son of a friend? Admit it Wiley, you're moonlighting at CCC. Or is it Walmart?

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[*] posted on 6-6-2010 at 07:26 PM


How much to tip?

My intuition is a peso a bag, or generally between 5-10 pesos in tips




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[*] posted on 6-6-2010 at 07:27 PM


Good job pointing it out!
There are lots of people who don't know about this.

Usually the baggers are retired people (with little or no income) and/or children or young teens who want money for school, clothes, etc etc.
The same as the parking attendants at large stores.
Tipping also usually depends on the amount of things they bag, at least for me.

While it's true that sometimes the younger ones scramble to bag the foreigners bags, I think some of the markets (larger ones usually) have placed one or two people per register, and they take turns and share the profit.

The tips (from my experience) usually range from anywhere between 1-30 pesos, the higher being when the load is pretty big.

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[*] posted on 6-6-2010 at 07:32 PM


I too have witnessed Americans and Canadians that do not tip but what excuse do the locals have for not tipping? Lots of them...when they do tip it is only centavos. Maybe they need to get the memo!

My tip is predicated on the service I am given.

1. When I speak to the "bagger" in Spanish...do they look at me and greet
me back. I am alway pleasant to them so respect goes a long way.

2. How do they bag my groceries...wine bottles on top of my bread is
an automatic deduction.

3. Do they double bag the heavy stuff when asked.

4. Senior citizens always get a bigger tip from me. What can I say,
I have lost both of my parents in the past two years and it breaks
my heart to see a elderly person having to work for tips.

Actually the best baggers are senoir citizen females. They too understand that after a person pays good money for food the last thing a customer wants is a bagger that destorys the food before you can get it home.

Just food for thought...no pun intended!


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[*] posted on 6-6-2010 at 07:46 PM


If UDO is tipping I'll be there, either store.:yes::yes::yes:



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[*] posted on 6-6-2010 at 08:24 PM


M$5-10 plus coins of M$1 or less received in change is what I normally tip.



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[*] posted on 6-6-2010 at 08:55 PM


I've noticed that one store in BOLA has a box label "tips for baggers" (in English). Always kids as far as I remember.
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[*] posted on 6-6-2010 at 09:01 PM


First, I have to say, I tip ten or more Ps each time I go through the checkstand.

That said, I cringe every time I do that. It's not the pittance of change, but the fact that the employer has turned over the responsibility of paying his employees directly to the consumers who, for some reason, agree to this nonsense.
The employer has found a way to have people work for him and enhance his quality of service along with his reputation.....for nothing.

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[*] posted on 6-6-2010 at 10:16 PM


I always tip varying amounts, depending on the change on hand. It is usually just a few pesos. In Mulege they all know me and acknowledge their appreciation with a "Gracias! I go often, but usually buy a small amount of groceries; just what I am going to consume within that day or the next.

Furthermore, it is obvious that a tip is customary. There is always a plastic cup or glass right there in front of them.




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[*] posted on 6-7-2010 at 06:53 AM


Well...this is great information. Being relatively new to the nuances of living here, I didn't know they weren't store employees. Just the other day we were trying to figure out why the store employed so many baggers, and why so many of them were waiting on the other side of the cash registers. Now I feel horrible, since the store is so far away, we usually go shopping for enough goods to last several weeks. We never really did that much grocery shopping during the many years we only came for short vacations. Thanks for the info.
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[*] posted on 6-7-2010 at 06:56 AM


I think Karenintx and Dennis have it exactly right. Karenintx said essentially to tip an appropriate and consistant amount related to quality and care of bagging. That makes absolute and perfect sense from all perspectives.

Dennis recognizes the economic ramifications and I applaud that esoteric and very correct perspective.

When it comes to tipping for anything, I always look at it this way. How much should a customarily tipped service provider make for a day's work (salary + tips) compared to other vocations that take either education and/or experience?

I don't think that a food server who takes about three days to train should make more money per hour than a recent grad accountant from a four year college for the same 40-hour work week. I don't think that a waiter/waitress that works in an upscale restaurant where the food prices are very high should make tips based on the total food/drink bill, That's economically unfair to the waitress who works at top speed and much, much harder for every moment of time at Spires restaurant. That does not make economic sense and is an unfair distribution of wealth that for me is within my control. Food servers should make a tip based on quality of service only and that should be consistant from upscale restaurant to down scale restaurants and not just based on total bill. You know, some waitresses have to bus their own tables and that would be a lower scale restaurants.

So, for baggers, I pay about $.50 to $1 peso for each full bag of PROPERLY bagged groceries (I would cut off the tip at a max total of $6 pesos), and it goes down from there depending on attentiveness and quality of bagging (the lack thereof) and proportion of fulness of a bag.

Dennis is right about the owner of the grocery stores getting free value from baggers who work only for tips, just like USA restaurant owners who get away with paying food servers less than minimum wage. I do not believe that such owners should get this benefit, but they do. This situation may result in lower prices, but only in certain circumstances and not in every case (for example, having only to pay food servers in very upscale restaurants minimum wage has no reduction effect on the exhorbitant pricing reflected in their menu pricing).
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[*] posted on 6-7-2010 at 06:58 AM


I agree with you, Dennis. CCC and Sorianna should pay them and not the customers! I do think the big stores train them, tho. I do tip, however!! The cute, little kids at the local stores and the seniors, especially. How can we not?! Tio
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[*] posted on 6-7-2010 at 07:03 AM


Tipping the grocery bagger is not such an unusual custom... it is regularly done in the Midwest USA where seniors often bag groceries for tips.

First trip to the grocery in Baja, I watched how locals behaved. Most everyone tipped the bagger, so I did too. Took years to figure out I was tipping way more than a reasonable amount. Now I generally tip M$10 plus those real small coins.

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[*] posted on 6-7-2010 at 07:11 AM


Quote:
Originally posted by Natalie Ann
those real small coins.




Yeah...what good are those things. Personally, I feel it would be insulting to use them even for a tip and usually throw them on the ground where the kids might find them.
Dinero es dinero, I guess, but I never see anybody paying with them. :?:
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