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CortezBlue
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San Felipe Adopt A Tire
Driving back from San Felipe today and noticing an increase in the number of tires laying along the road in various conditions. It dawned on me, if
all of the folks that drive down to San Felipe picked up a bad tire and delivered it to a dump or recycling center in either SF or Mexicali, the road
would be cleaned up in no time.
My amigo in SF woks for Agulera Llantera, yes DK, it is spelled wrong. and I will ask him if he knows what they do with the old tires.
Have at it
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Bwana_John
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I think they burn them in the pits east of Mex 5, south of Mexicalli;
At least that is what I have seen a couple of times.
It might be better enviormental option to leave them dispersed instead of concentrating them for burning.
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Donjulio
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Anyone wants to bring them to the food bank we will take them and use them for building materials.
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tjBill
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One of the problems is the tires containment the soil and water when it rains
[Edited on 8-16-2010 by tjBill]
[Edited on 8-16-2010 by tjBill]
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Dave
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Those responsible...
| Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
if all of the folks that drive down to San Felipe picked up a bad tire and delivered it to a dump or recycling center in either SF or Mexicali, the
road would be cleaned up in no time.
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Should clean up the mess.
If I invite guests to my home I wouldn't expect them to take out my garbage.
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CortezBlue
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
if all of the folks that drive down to San Felipe picked up a bad tire and delivered it to a dump or recycling center in either SF or Mexicali, the
road would be cleaned up in no time.
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Should clean up the mess.
If I invite guests to my home I wouldn't expect them to take out my garbage. |
I guess your sliver of a narrow view is possible, however I was brought up differently.
If I were am guest in your home, I would, take out the garbage and offer my help with any obvious problems that you may have in your home.
That being said, I am not a guest in Mexico, I am a few years away from being a citizen and I am currently a legal resident,so as a guess in my home,
if you want, feel free to help it stay clean by grabbing a tire or two.
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wilderone
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I watched a TV program once about a guy who takes old tires and turns them into paving blocks used by municipalities for sidewalks, garden mulch, and
I don't know what else. Makes millions. Just an idea, some ingenuity, hard work, maybe a small business loan - you have a nice business with jobs for
a few and clean up the planet too. The Mexican govt is so retarded - they can offer training programs -a night course in every small town "How to
Effectively Use an Old Tire to Avoid Dumping in Public Places". No effort whatsoever to prohibit the practice of throwing stuff alongside the
highway.
PS: If I were a guest in your home, I'd offer to help make the dinner, bring something to share, and do the dishes in appreciation.
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Bajajorge
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A few years ago when building houses out of tires was the green fad of the week, Hwy5 was clean of tires of any type, zippo, nada, no tires,
completely devoid.
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Donjulio
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We have a problem identified. We have a solution offered. Simple
Whos at fault, why the problem exists, what the government does or doesn't do etc. doesn't really matter now does it? And as far as rain in San
Felipe. Pretty much non-existent.
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MrBillM
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Cosmic Baja Harmony
OK, we're in complete agreement so the problem will be solved.
Those who consider the vagrant tires a problem will participate in cleaning up that problem and they'll feel really good about themselves while
knowing they're superior examples of Human Development.
Those that don't - Won't.
Everything should be this easy.
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CortezBlue
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
OK, we're in complete agreement so the problem will be solved.
Those who consider the vagrant tires a problem will participate in cleaning up that problem and they'll feel really good about themselves while
knowing they're superior examples of Human Development.
Those that don't - Won't.
Everything should be this easy. |
So that is called human nature and goes without saying.
People will either do things because they want to and won't if they don't want to. Even if they say that they will do it.
It's not a matter of feeling good or not feeling good, it is a matter of something to do. I think if you lead by example, sometimes it doesn't matter
and wont make a bit of difference, but sometimes it may change one person. So maybe if a young Mexican student sees a few gringos cleaning up the
road, it may make them think about organizing a group of University students to do the same thing.
PS My thought about doing this was suppose to be something kind of fun and different, not a debate. Kind of like a poker run, no real reason to do
it, but in the end it is something to do.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
PS My thought about doing this was suppose to be something kind of fun and different, not a debate. Kind of like a poker run, no real reason to do
it, but in the end it is something to do. |
No, should not be a debate---it just seems like a good idea, a good project, and I wish you the best of luck.
Since it does not rain very often around here, the old tires are used often as fences----does the job as a low fence, and keeps them collected.
Best of luck and I hope a lot of people who visit that area participate.
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A great way to use those tires is build fish structure or reefs,they been used for years in fresh as well as salt water work wonderful and last
forever,if build right and anchored correctly your in business.
The fishing improves,you clean up the place,tourists pour in,its a win win thing.
Rob
[Edited on 8-16-2010 by baitcast]
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Barry A.
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I probably will regret admitting this, but I have hauled dozens (maybe 100's?) of tires out of the boon-docs over the years and deposited them along
the main highways on the shoulders, and they always disappeared eventually. I knew of nobody who would take them off my hands unless if I paid them
to. This was in the USA, and probably would not work in Baja-----they might just sit there forever down there. 
I did this for many years-------I have no real knowledge where they disappeared too, but the back country was sure cleaner. 
(and yes, it did make ME feel good) 
Barry
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How long a period of time should pass before you tell the tire it is adopted?
Don't believe everything you think....
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
How long a period of time should pass before you tell the tire it is adopted?
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If this is directed at me, Ged, the tires always seemed to disappear in about a week, or less. I assumed that CalTrans picked them up, but never knew
for sure. Most of these tires were so old that they had no interest in who 'adopted' them----too senile.
I do know that CalTrans has money (or used to?) for picking up abandoned vehicles (even hulks) along their right-of-ways-------maybe this applied to
'tires' also, (!?!?!?)
Barry
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Barry,
Nope, my comment wasn't directed at anyone....just a wisecrack on the "adoption" issue.....
As for using tires for homes....they have been found to "gas off" toxic fumes.....good application is for landscape application, recycled into
asphalt, or liners for outhouse holes....
....but, the tires might not integrate well with others due to attachment disorders related to abandonment or other adoption issues 
[Edited on 8-16-2010 by motoged]
Don't believe everything you think....
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Are radial tires more adoptable than bias ply tires?
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by burnrope
Are radial tires more adoptable than bias ply tires? |
Generally speaking, no. Bias ply tires are conservative, tough, stiff but durable, and thereby more desirable and stable, and much more pleasant to
be around.
Radials are considered by most to be more progressive, squishy, with vulnerable sidewalls, and thereby troublesome, unstable, and always challenging
you, and thus very hard to get rid of, even when blown out.
Always go with a bias ply------you won't regret it.
Barry
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Recycling Possibilities
The Africans (mostly during conflict) have a unique method for Tire-Recycling that does have its attractions.
Accomplishes two objectives at one time.
Three, if you count the entertainment value.
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