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[*] posted on 9-29-2010 at 02:52 PM
Excellent story of Baja


Cruising the net, I came across this link:

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/travel/85021-baja-californi...

BAJA CALIFORNIA: Finding a LOST MISSION

DavidK....one of the better essays of Baja that I have read! Have this piece been posted here at the Nomads as well?

Oh....great maps too




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[*] posted on 9-29-2010 at 02:55 PM


Never quite certain as to which he loves more. Baja, or his truck. :lol::lol::lol:
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[*] posted on 9-29-2010 at 03:36 PM


I am not sure how he finds time to work in between all of the forum posting...:D



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[*] posted on 9-29-2010 at 03:40 PM


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I am not sure how he finds time to work in between all of the forum posting...:D


He's the boss. [just like you, Geoff] :yes:
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[*] posted on 9-29-2010 at 04:08 PM


Thank you. That is an excellent exploration and report. I can imagine them standing up on the hill looking out for a boat bringing supplies along the coast. What a barren, remote outpost though.
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[*] posted on 9-29-2010 at 05:38 PM


Thanks, but it was first (and heavily) posted here on Nomad... Then I posted the link to the Discover Baja Magazine article featuring the 'discovery'... This was New Years Weekend 2009.

It was very rewarding to find the place that Choral Pepper had written about in 1966 (Desert Magazine) and agian in her Baja California historic facts and stories book of 1973. I had been seeking it for years, as none of the party members from 1966 I talked to could remember exactly. Choral herself tried to go back a few years before I met her... and the road was not passable to her. Choral had hopped I would find her lost mission site... I only wish I had before she passed away.

The best way to see the photos and story is to just go to my web site and click on the link 'Lost Mission (?) Found' here: http://vivabaja.com/109 and Lynn Mitchell did a good job with the Discover Baja Magazine article... here: http://www.discoverbaja.com/pdf/fall09.pdf

Baja Nomad 'Sharksbaja' found the wall on Google Earth and he recognized the shape from the photos taken in 1966, I have posted. As soon as he showed me the satellite image, I made ready to go... and withing a couple weeks, we drove the nearly 500 miles to see if the line seen from space was the wall of mystery... and it was!

The head archeologist researching the area (Dr. Eric Ritter)as well as the primary mission historian of today (Dr. Michael Mathes) were both contacted with the photos I took and the background.

Since the site was disclosed 44 years ago, if historians were convinced there even was a 'started' mission of Santa Maria Magdalena, then they had ample time to study the site. Dr. Mathes never responded... However, Dr. Ritter and I had a nice phone conversation and the area around Bahia las Animas is filled with rock rings, and other native Indian sites... and while interesting, the hilltop site or the walls were no more interesting than the other sites he surveyed years ago and published his findings about, in 1994.

Baja is filled with mysteries... and these rock walls will last an eternity... Unfortunately, the established missions and visitas are crumbling away and being plowed over by road crews or farmers. Direct your enegy at these sites and let the locals know they are more valuable as a true piece of California history than a field to grow chile peppers! See http://vivabaja.com/missions1

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[*] posted on 9-29-2010 at 05:44 PM


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I am not sure how he finds time to work in between all of the forum posting...:D


I don't do drugs, smoke, gamble or drink (much)... and with work nearly non-existant compared to the prosperity before 2007 when congress changed hands, I am here on Nomad and the Tacoma forum a lot more than I want to be... but it is fun, just doesn't pay well!

Got Drip? Call me for landscape irrigation upgrades or installs... please! :light:




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[*] posted on 9-29-2010 at 07:19 PM


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Originally posted by BajaGeoff
I am not sure how he finds time to work in between all of the forum posting...:D


I don't do drugs, smoke, gamble or drink (much)... and with work nearly non-existant compared to the prosperity before 2007 when congress changed hands, I am here on Nomad and the Tacoma forum a lot more than I want to be... but it is fun, just doesn't pay well!

Got Drip? Call me for landscape irrigation upgrades or installs... please! :light:


Is the book available? I would really like to get my hands on a copy>
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[*] posted on 9-29-2010 at 07:37 PM


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I don't do drugs, smoke, gamble or drink (much)... and with work nearly non-existent compared to the prosperity before 2007 when congress changed hands,


You stole my paragraph.....
Give it 18 months....things will be picking up then.


These detail accounts of your travels.....even if you repeat em...be nice reading. I appreciate you and all the others that give us good stories. Thanks all....keep it up!




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[*] posted on 9-30-2010 at 07:45 AM


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Originally posted by David K
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Originally posted by BajaGeoff
I am not sure how he finds time to work in between all of the forum posting...:D


I don't do drugs, smoke, gamble or drink (much)... and with work nearly non-existant compared to the prosperity before 2007 when congress changed hands, I am here on Nomad and the Tacoma forum a lot more than I want to be... but it is fun, just doesn't pay well!

Got Drip? Call me for landscape irrigation upgrades or installs... please! :light:


Is the book available? I would really like to get my hands on a copy>


Which book? Pepper's?

Here is my '73 edition...

pepper-73r.JPG - 22kB




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[*] posted on 9-30-2010 at 07:48 AM


and here is my '75 edition (intersting slight change in the book title!)....

Her 2001 revised book (Baja: Missions, Mysteries, Myths) remains unpublished.

pepper-75r.JPG - 27kB




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[*] posted on 9-30-2010 at 07:50 AM


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I don't do drugs, smoke, gamble or drink (much)... and with work nearly non-existent compared to the prosperity before 2007 when congress changed hands,


You stole my paragraph.....
Give it 18 months....things will be picking up then.


These detail accounts of your travels.....even if you repeat em...be nice reading. I appreciate you and all the others that give us good stories. Thanks all....keep it up!


Thank you! I will continue to share my travels and stories here... A book? well, maybe someday (when I am really really old)!




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[*] posted on 9-30-2010 at 08:43 AM


Great stuff david, Mike and I really enjoy your travels. Keep'em coming,k:tumble:



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[*] posted on 9-30-2010 at 04:43 PM


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Careful there, Big David, I think you're good company. Don't screw it up!!:lol:
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[*] posted on 9-30-2010 at 04:50 PM


I can only smile so long without an income... after 10 years of constant growth, my business has dived the past two years. It is getting worse, not better and I am not alone, so I know it isn't personal.



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[*] posted on 9-30-2010 at 05:03 PM


Quote:
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I can only smile so long without an income... after 10 years of constant growth, my business has dived the past two years. It is getting worse, not better and I am not alone, so I know it isn't personal.


David...
Yellowpage ad (big) - no bites
Google Adword ($2.50 a hit..top billing) - ZERO
Sacramento Bee newspaper - joke able
Sac Valley Homes Shows (did 4 per year) - Cheapskate lookers
Guys holding sign on busy corners - Nada

It s not "you".

I am currently transferring the landscaping in to commercial maintenance. Yep....in Feb....we be a freakin Gardening company! One must make change to survive. Are you making change David?




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[*] posted on 9-30-2010 at 08:58 PM


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Originally posted by David K
I can only smile so long without an income... after 10 years of constant growth, my business has dived the past two years. It is getting worse, not better and I am not alone, so I know it isn't personal.


David...
Yellowpage ad (big) - no bites
Google Adword ($2.50 a hit..top billing) - ZERO
Sacramento Bee newspaper - joke able
Sac Valley Homes Shows (did 4 per year) - Cheapskate lookers
Guys holding sign on busy corners - Nada

It s not "you".

I am currently transferring the landscaping in to commercial maintenance. Yep....in Feb....we be a freakin Gardening company! One must make change to survive. Are you making change David?


Yes, less eating out... less trips to Baja (well a couple less)... less of everything we did before without thought... so we are not spending and that hurts everyone we did business with... trickle down is a fact.

I am an old dog and I have been in the irrigation industry for 30 years... I am affraid I am limited. I still can make more working one day a week than 5 for someone else, so I am hanging on. I would love to work on a big project in Baja... and that was in the works until it died! Now, I can only hope someone out there on the Internet can use a Baja specialist to lead tours in the peninsula to the great history of Old California! :biggrin:




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[*] posted on 9-30-2010 at 09:43 PM


David, where those books you posted pics. of part of your inheritence from Corke?

I'm really sorry that business is off for you and yours. "Mcfez' is right though, People might not be able to afford the cost of your expertize right now, but, if around my area is any indication, they are still too lazy to mow their own lawns, Might get you through?

There is no one that I know that has more expertize about Baja, and especially Baja Missions than you............there must be other "anal retentive" ;D :spingrin: newbie folks out there with a few bucks that would love to have you 'drag them around' (I've followed you everywhere , dang lost Mission anyway :lol:) Maybe this is the time? Post on Craig's list? San Diego Union? Whatever, this has been your dream, maybe time to go for it? Surely more fun than sitting around blaming the Dems. :P




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[*] posted on 9-30-2010 at 09:45 PM


Mcfez...........I just realized that I added to the hi-jack of your thread. Lo siento.



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[*] posted on 9-30-2010 at 10:05 PM
For the record....


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Mcfez...........I just realized that I added to the hi-jack of your thread. Lo siento.


I really dont mind at all if my post(s) is hijacked, accidentally or intentionally. Keeps the reading interesting.

Absolute no issue....but thanks for the thought Debra




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