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shari
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LL & RR in Mexican alphabet
just a wee highjack here seeing as Blanca brought up spelling...the lady who registered babies told us that one can no longer use double LL's or RR's
in a name anymore...they are changing them to single and changing the L's to a Y so it would now be yantera to change a tire?...weird eh!
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LL & RR in Mexican alphabet
| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
just a wee highjack here seeing as Blanca brought up spelling...the lady who registered babies told us that one can no longer use double LL's or RR's
in a name anymore...they are changing them to single and changing the L's to a Y so it would now be yantera to change a tire?...weird eh!
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Taking your highjack... with respect to the walk which spans cultures and regions.
Language is a critical aspect of unique cultures. While it's true this dropping of letters in mexican spanish is promoted in schools as part of a
planned homogenizing of the written languages in North America by UNESCO, along with agreements like Security Prosperity Pact, NAFTA and MERIDA, one
should be aware that language is the primary method to communicate unique thoughts and ideas, these are expressed as unique cultures with unique
dialects and language not a homogenized engineered mass programmed society.
One should feel at ease using language as you uniquely see fit in your community and culture as you are accustomed to, and consider attempts to
corrupt language from afar such as in sweeping moves by think tanks such as UNESCO as an offense to you and your unique culture. Who among unique
individuals would listen to someone in an office in New York City tell you to drop the double ll of your language?
You can choose to write as you wish and dismiss announcements from afar of name changes, language changes etc... as something as just that, something
from afar attempting to change you and instead respect and use traditional national and localized languages which is a far superior ideal than
homogenizing culture.
In fact, keyboards and computers have long been structured to support multiple languages of various complexities. There is no such technical
requirement apparent to require the changing of the written language, except that which is deemed necessary by social engineers.
Finally, isn't the action of walking the peninsula an expression of acknowledging the inter-relationship of varied cultures, with respect to their
uniqueness and also inter-dependency?
It's wonderful to witness this trip, to imagine the adventure, the dialects, the funny and also difficult moments, it's immensely inspirational!
[Edited on 1-4-2011 by gnukid]
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LL & RR in Mexican alphabet
| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
just a wee highjack here seeing as Blanca brought up spelling...the lady who registered babies told us that one can no longer use double LL's or RR's
in a name anymore...they are changing them to single and changing the L's to a Y so it would now be yantera to change a tire?...weird eh!
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These websites don't say anything about changing L's to Y but they do say LL and RR are not in the alphabet any longer.
http://users.ipfw.edu/jehle/courses/alfabeto.htm
http://www.spanishpronto.com/spanishpronto/spanishalphabet.h...
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gnukid
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Here's a related essay to manipulating language and it's implications for human thought.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
just a wee highjack here seeing as Blanca brought up spelling...the lady who registered babies told us that one can no longer use double LL's or RR's
in a name anymore...they are changing them to single and changing the L's to a Y so it would now be yantera to change a tire?...weird eh!
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In registered babies' names... not in all existing words... I mean pero and perro are different words.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
pero and perro are different words. |
Just like "but" and "butt."
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
just a wee highjack here seeing as Blanca brought up spelling...the lady who registered babies told us that one can no longer use double LL's or RR's
in a name anymore...they are changing them to single and changing the L's to a Y so it would now be yantera to change a tire?...weird eh!
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i thought the royal spanish academy was in charge of standardizing written spanish in the madre patria and colonies 
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Eric Blair, the author touched on these issues in his important work '1984", in contrast to [Aldous] Huxley's work, "Brave New World" in regard to
governments rewriting language and history as mind control of society.
Worldwide, people are progressively being collectively socialized to be unable to communicate complex issues clearly, basically turning the population
into grunting idiots is an excellent way to reduce people's ability to communicate critical thought about government, society and tyranny.
Try to have a discussion today with a friend or family and see if you/they are able to clearly communicate complex issues and consider the responses
you get in light of this discussion about language controls as social engineering.
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Here Hear!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
Eric Blair, the author touched on these issues in his important work '1984", in contrast to Julian Huxley's work, "Brave New World" in regard to
governments rewriting language and history as mind control of society.
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You must mean George Orwell with his idea of "Newspeak."
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My son was born in Cabo San Lucas in 1998. After a couple of months we went to register his birth and receive his birth certificate in Cabo. The
woman taking our information asked what was the name of our son we wished to register as his name. I replied, Cabo Guillermo. The woman stated we
could not name our son Cabo....only christian names. She suggested Pablo, Jose, Marcos etc. I asked to see her boss. The boss was a woman and
proceeded to show us the "rule of law" as dictated in naming children in Baja California Sur. My wife and I thanked her and left.
Two months later we went to San Jose to again attempt to register my son's birth. This time we were successful and Cabo Guillermo became a real
person. But, several months later we returned to acquire addtional copies of his birth certificate in order to register his birth in the US and
receive his US passport from the US Consulate in Cabo. The woman that originally registered his birth told us that she almost lost her job for
allowing us to name our son Cabo.
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Ripped off the WWW.
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" I know antonym means opposite, synonym means similar. What's the term for words that sound alike, but are spelled differently and have entirely
different meanings? Example: 'Breaks' and 'Brakes'???
Homophones........There are also homographs and homonyms"
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by cabobaja
The woman stated we could not name our son Cabo....only christian names. |
Amazing, isn't it. Whtever happened to the seperation of church and state?
Is that just a local regulation?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by cabobaja
The woman stated we could not name our son Cabo....only christian names. |
I take it that would leave out Hussein ?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by cabobaja
My son was born in Cabo San Lucas in 1998. After a couple of months we went to register his birth and receive his birth certificate in Cabo. The
woman taking our information asked what was the name of our son we wished to register as his name. I replied, Cabo Guillermo. The woman stated we
could not name our son Cabo....only christian names. She suggested Pablo, Jose, Marcos etc. I asked to see her boss. The boss was a woman and
proceeded to show us the "rule of law" as dictated in naming children in Baja California Sur. My wife and I thanked her and left.
Two months later we went to San Jose to again attempt to register my son's birth. This time we were successful and Cabo Guillermo became a real
person. But, several months later we returned to acquire addtional copies of his birth certificate in order to register his birth in the US and
receive his US passport from the US Consulate in Cabo. The woman that originally registered his birth told us that she almost lost her job for
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This is certainly an enlightening post. I had no idea of such regulations. Thanks.
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Oh dear. What will become of the Pacifico Ballena?
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FYI...........the book the wife and I were shown resembled the California Penal Code. Very legal looking. This was a "law" in BCS. Have no idea if
this is still the case.
Oh, I did ask if Jesus is a good name. The lady said yes. No, I said. Not Heysus, Jeesus. She said even better. We learned well though. Second son
was born in Cabo San Lucas in 2003. Name....John William. No problem, they liked the name
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| Quote: | Originally posted by cabobaja
My son was born in Cabo San Lucas in 1998. After a couple of months we went to register his birth and receive his birth certificate in Cabo. The
woman taking our information asked what was the name of our son we wished to register as his name. I replied, Cabo Guillermo. The woman stated we
could not name our son Cabo....only christian names. She suggested Pablo, Jose, Marcos etc. I asked to see her boss. The boss was a woman and
proceeded to show us the "rule of law" as dictated in naming children in Baja California Sur. My wife and I thanked her and left.
Two months later we went to San Jose to again attempt to register my son's birth. This time we were successful and Cabo Guillermo became a real
person. But, several months later we returned to acquire addtional copies of his birth certificate in order to register his birth in the US and
receive his US passport from the US Consulate in Cabo. The woman that originally registered his birth told us that she almost lost her job for
allowing us to name our son Cabo. |
"Cabo?" You should be reported to child protective services for naming your child "Cabo." I think the woman should have lost her job. I am
surprised you did not give him a middle name of "Wabo"
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Thought about naming the second son Wabo!!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by cabobaja
Thought about naming the second son Wabo!! |
Your name isn't Sammy H. is it? 
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