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bajacalifornian
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Not a Condemnation. An Education.
On shares of fuel, from a Mexican Gas Station . . .
Stop your vehicle with your driver window (or passenger window) next to the pump meter you are selecting.
Ask not, for such things as: "Fill it up", . . . or, "Lleno por favor", . . . or , "ah . . . fifty, no, ah . . . five-hundred pesos", or hold out
three different colored bills with different feel & size and say, "Please put this much in".
If it is fuel you are requesting, you can ask in two different ways.
Learn to divide your vehicle fuel capacity by four. Think of this as, "I most closely want 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 or a full tanks worth".
If you prefer to order in known values in dollar or pesos, you can do that too. You'll need to do some math.
If you need to carry the values on a pocket computer, you can do that too. But, keep it simple.
PROFECO (the Federal Bureau of Consumer Interests) is the agency going about Mexico, measuring fuel drawn from the test pump in liters, a 20 liter
test commonly. PROFECO pumps fuel from the test pump into a vessel. They first push the "liter" (or more accurately the "Ingrese volumen") select
button, and pump their fuel.
Learn your car's fuel tank in liters per one quarter tank. My Ford van (small V8) is 20/40/60/or 80 liters if empty (twenty liters per 1/4 tank).
Learn the math, & order in liters.
Examples:
You have fifty U.S. dollars or five hundred pesos or you want about 1/4 tanks worth . . . say to run around town. Order 20 liters.
Or, you are headed south out of San Quintin. You stop at the Pemex with the bold welcome to the San Quintin Valley sign painted on the boundary wall,
near the topes and Federal Police.
You want to fill it up. You know the number of quarters you need to fill up (of course in liters). Order more than you need if you like. All that
happens is the tank fills, the pump stops as does the meter. Same as PROFECO does it.
On the other hand, if requested in pesos or a fill up, amount is entered on the keypad. The computer has selection of two Mexican legal paths, for
dispensation.
P.S. On minutia.
Yes, a Gallon is 3.785 Liters. Figure yours at 4 liters per gallon.
Yes, the dollar/peso value varies. Carry pesos.
Yes, on nozzle flows, full flow is best (unlike a hospital).
Yes, know your boat for sure. (Perhaps, 580 liters for fill up. More the merrier.)
Yes, 20 liters is the least you can order & yes, you can order 23 or 69 liters.
In general, the best way to order fuel in any gas station in Mexico is in multiples of 20 liters.
Below the number pad are two buttons. The "X" or crossed cigarette is "Para Anular". Like an annulment. Cancels an incorrect entry and ****idad
(continue), enter the correct data. The repetitive circle is the "volumen" or liter button. Your attendant will first push the spinning circle
button, then enter the number of liters to be dispensed.
American by birth, Mexican by choice.
Signature addendum: Danish physicist — Niels Bohr — who said, “The opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth.
Jeff Petersen
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mtgoat666
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sure is easier to just ask the gas jockey to fill it up.
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
sure is easier to just ask the gas jockey to fill it up. |
Yep.
Reminds me. I can recall one fill up in La Paz that was self-serve. What's that all about? Only place I ever stopped where I had to go to the
attendant window and pay in advance, then pump my own. I kinda got the feeling that Mexico was like the Spanish-speaking version of New Jersey. 
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Reminds me. I can recall one fill up in La Paz that was self-serve. What's that all about? Only place I ever stopped where I had to go to the
attendant window and pay in advance, then pump my own. I kinda got the feeling that Mexico was like the Spanish-speaking version of New Jersey. |
I thought all of them up north were like that.
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Marc
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
sure is easier to just ask the gas jockey to fill it up. |
Yep.
Reminds me. I can recall one fill up in La Paz that was self-serve. What's that all about? Only place I ever stopped where I had to go to the
attendant window and pay in advance, then pump my own. I kinda got the feeling that Mexico was like the Spanish-speaking version of New Jersey. |
Come to think of it; the only time I ever came across a self serv pemex in Baja was on the way to S. Felipe. I actually could not figure out the
process and had to go to the office for help.
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surfer jim
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BC......tell the truth.......Did you used to work at the IRS or the DMV....?
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bajacalifornian
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I did neither.
American by birth, Mexican by choice.
Signature addendum: Danish physicist — Niels Bohr — who said, “The opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth.
Jeff Petersen
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krafty
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Actually, NJ is one of the only states left that will not let you serve yourself, at least that was still the case a couple of years ago.
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mulegemichael
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lleno con magna...no mas
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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surfdoc
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El Rosario, my last trip down was self serve.. No problem..
Oregon is wierd, I was yelled at for trying to pump my own... Serious No No..
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karmatourer
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Was that statewide,or just on the NJ Turnpike or GardenState Parkway?
I remember it on the pike.
| Quote: | Originally posted by krafty
Actually, NJ is one of the only states left that will not let you serve yourself, at least that was still the case a couple of years ago.
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by krafty
Actually, NJ is one of the only states left that will not let you serve yourself, at least that was still the case a couple of years ago.
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In Oregon you are not allowed to pump your own gas. There is an attendant. This was instituted to create jobs. More than ten thousand jobs have
been created this way.
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krafty
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all over NJ as I recall
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Just on the news wire tonight...price of gas will hit $4.00 by March 15th
This ought to help the Baja tourist trade intensely 
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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Dave
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Anyone who thinks there is a magical formula to minimize chances of fraud at a Pemex station is dreaming. In those stations owned and staffed by
honest folks, you'll get an honest pour. In stations that are dishonest...you won't. If offered the chance to compare stations near each other the one
that's busy should be your first and best clue.
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dtutko1
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
Anyone who thinks there is a magical formula to minimize chances of fraud at a Pemex station is dreaming. In those stations owned and staffed by
honest folks, you'll get an honest pour. In stations that are dishonest...you won't. If offered the chance to compare stations near each other the one
that's busy should be your first and best clue. |
I agree Dave, the PROFECO can be bought. A 10% cheat, which would be hard to detect w/o scale is big #'s, hundreds of thousands of dollars/year at
high volume stations. My gas gauge is not totally linier (sp) so measuring my purchase w/it would be meaningless. Stations in La Paz advertise w/large
signs "litros complete", so what does that say?. A Previous post in the Baja Western Onion had a gringo going around the area and buying a metered
litre. The results were off as much as 18%.
Dorado Don
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dtutko1
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The same station may have some pumps more accurate than others. when approaching a pemex avoid the lane you are directed to if possible and get in the
lane w/the locals.
Dorado Don
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monoloco
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Don, the only one around here that I'll go to is the one north of Todos Santos, the other two (owned by the same guy) manage to put 23 liters in a 19
liter container.
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If you don't like/trust PEMEX just do business with the other guys.
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Libya just stopped exporting oil today. So it goes.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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