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mcfez
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Selfish, inconsiderate Mexicans
It's what I hear often.
Not in any other parts of the world, have I been so welcomed into the homes as that of the Mexican. Since 1984, I have traveled to Mexico at 2-3 times
a year. Now...its more often since we have interests in San Felipe. Their hospitality just keeps getting warmer with each trip.
All this newspaper overkill about Baja is such a tragic. Yes...there are issues...but the same anywhere else in America.
I cant wait till I get back down there in a few weeks...we always get invited to someone"s home for dinner. Good conversations and lively folks at the
table. Campfire afterward s perhaps.
I say the folks of Baja have it better than us at times 
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Very well put, Deno.
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bajabass
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After 51 of my 52 years of life in my beloved United States, I have to say each place has it's own merits. Many aspects of life here are better all
the time! At this stage in my life, I'd rather be here in La Paz, than good old Socal any day.
I have only been here in La Paz for 3 months now. I made a quick trip up to Norcal last month, and dread having to go again. Without exception, I
have had nothing but positive experiences with every local I've met. I'm not naive enough to think it will go that way forever, but I can dream. 
[Edited on 3-9-2011 by bajabass]
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I totally agree. The other thing that amazes me is the relationship that the children have with parents and grandparents. More than once I had a
Mexican neighbor over to the house to fix something ie car, washing machine etc. Everytime the mechanic brought the children who had a fantastic time
at the beach or just playing with a 10 cent toy. Children that got in trouble in school worried more about disappointing and facing grandma than any
punishment the school could dish out. And, do they know how to party!! We were invited to a couple of Mexican weddings and the fun they have is truely
amazing!!
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Bajahowodd
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Anyone looking for selfish and inconsiderate should spend some time in France or Germany.
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Mexican Family Values
We have Mexican friends that are wealthy enough and have dual citizenship.
They choose to live in Mexico because they feel their children will be raised in a better social enivronment.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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The best case of Baja hospitality I've experienced is when I broke down a couple of miles down an arroyo when I was searching for rock art. I hiked
out to a local rancho and the farmer drove me back, got me running and took me back to his house, where his wife offered us coffee. No questions as
to what we were doing and certainly no request for compensation.
I agree that while the violence there is widespread and tragic, it simply exists everywhere. I live in Sacramento and my favorite Mexican restaurant
in So Sac had a shootout about 4 blocks away where guys in a barbershop had a gunfight and an innocent woman was killed in the parking lot while
putting her child away. A couple a weeks ago in No Sac there was a fight and a guy was shot to death outside an IHOP. Keep in mind this is the state
capitol.
Same old advice holds everywhere. Use good sense, be aware of surroundings, and enjoy what each place has to offer.
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DENNIS
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Mexico is one fu*ed-up place. It isn't all the fine family or the great kids you see or know....it's the one's who want to control the country
through force and intimidation by showing their strength with heads that they have been cut off and limbless bodies.
You do realize this...don't you?
The cartels want to run the people who run the country and are doing a strong job of doing that. When criminals influence law-makers, what do you
have?
"I agree that while the violence there is widespread and tragic, it simply exists everywhere."
This is lame bullsh*. Take your comparisons and stick them where they fit. We here that live amongst the mayhem are not concerned with what's up in
New Jersey. It doesn't matter to us and it doesn't matter at all.
I'm tired of the comparisons. We hear it every day, but not from people who live amongst the stuff. You only think you have the answers, but you
don't.
Two nights ago, my neighbor right here in my private community was accosted at a late night hour by eight or ten police who came to and into his house
in a large pickup, all wearing ski-masks and at least two with assault rifles. The others had side-arms.
Their entry to his house was aggressive and what there reason was , I don't know.
The victim wasn't alone and has a witness and had they wanted the man, they would have taken him, but they didn't.
They procedded to extract all hand-held goods, electronics, cash and whatever they wanted before leaving.
State forensics was on the scene the following morning, but it's police on police. What will one expect as an outcome?
Anyway....when's the last time this happened in LA?
So....take your international comparisons and shove them up your naive culo. The US has laws that apply to citizens. Mexico has much the same laws
that apply to nobody who isn't somebody.
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Gypsy Jan
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Dennis, I Am Sorry About Violent Crime
That is all I can say about your friend and the violation of his home and family.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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mcfez
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Mexico is one fu*ed-up place. It isn't all the fine family or the great kids you see or know....it's the one's who want to control the country
through force and intimidation by showing their strength with heads that they have been cut off and limbless bodies.
You do realize this...don't you?
The cartels want to run the people who run the country and are doing a strong job of doing that. When criminals influence law-makers, what do you
have?
"I agree that while the violence there is widespread and tragic, it simply exists everywhere."
This is lame bullsh*. Take your comparisons and stick them where they fit. We here that live amongst the mayhem are not concerned with what's up in
New Jersey. It doesn't matter to us and it doesn't matter at all.
I'm tired of the comparisons. We hear it every day, but not from people who live amongst the stuff. You only think you have the answers, but you
don't.
Two nights ago, my neighbor right here in my private community was accosted at a late night hour by eight or ten police who came to and into his house
in a large pickup, all wearing ski-masks and at least two with assault rifles. The others had side-arms.
Their entry to his house was aggressive and what there reason was , I don't know.
The victim wasn't alone and has a witness and had they wanted the man, they would have taken him, but they didn't.
They procedded to extract all hand-held goods, electronics, cash and whatever they wanted before leaving.
State forensics was on the scene the following morning, but it's police on police. What will one expect as an outcome?
Anyway....when's the last time this happened in LA?
So....take your international comparisons and shove them up your naive culo. The US has laws that apply to citizens. Mexico has much the same laws
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Wow DENNIS....
My circle of places and friends....we dont have your sort of issues. Maybe you are just hanging out in the wrong hoods!
I have been going to Baja since 1982'ish. That's what....29 years? Have property in Cozumel and San Felipe. Traveled intensely in Mexico for the last
20 years.....and aboard 30 some countries.
No.....I know Mexico enough to compare her to other countries. The cops running through your private community happens in the US also...often.
......how bout The Rampart scandal
More than 70 police officers in the CRASH unit were implicated.
The convicted offenses include unprovoked shootings, unprovoked beatings, planting of evidence, framing of suspects, stealing and dealing narcotics, bank robbery perjury, and covering up evidence of these activities.
I could list hundreds of police corruption cases and compare them the the Baja cops. Detroit Police Dept....Oh Gods 
Mexico is one fu*ed-up place. No DENNIS, it aint. Your hood....sounds like it.
[Edited on 3-10-2011 by mcfez]
[Edited on 3-10-2011 by BajaNomad]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
I could list hundreds of police corruption cases and compare them the the Baja cops. |
No!!! You can't. One or two US cases don't equal a lifetime of Mexico cop corruption. Why would you say such a foolish thing? Are you so intent
on being such a number one Mexico sycophant that you would ignore what even Mexicans will tell you, the the local police from border to border are
corrupt? That's not the way it is in the states and you know it.
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Mexico is one fu*ed-up place. No DENNIS, it aint. Your hood....sounds like it.
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I can't believe you said that, Deno. I really can't.
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asi es el arroyo
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
asi es el arroyo |
Meaning effing what? I'm sick and tired of the Buddhist mystery crap that permeates this place.
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bajabass
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Oh my gosh! Religious slander!! What is next??? This thread was started about the kindness and hospitality that 99% of the Mexican people show as a
common trait. Plenty of other threads about police corruption and the other negatives that DO exist here.
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mcfez
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
I could list hundreds of police corruption cases and compare them the the Baja cops. |
No!!! You can't. One or two US cases don't equal a lifetime of Mexico cop corruption. Why would you say such a foolish thing? Are you so intent
on being such a number one Mexico sycophant that you would ignore what even Mexicans will tell you, the the local police from border to border are
corrupt? That's not the way it is in the states and you know it.
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Mexico is one fu*ed-up place. No DENNIS, it aint. Your hood....sounds like it.
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I can't believe you said that, Deno. I really can't. |
DENNIS...have always respected your viewpoints...and outright harsh statements
But to say Mexico is one fu*ed-up place and Take your comparisons and stick them where they fit........well.....I cant believe you said that!
Our first major disagreement here. More disagreements will come. I will always respect you as a member of this BN.....because I think you are the
most correct guy here!
[Edited on 3-10-2011 by BajaNomad]
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I love Mexico like most on this site........but Dennis is 100% right you can't compare the corruption or crime in the USA vs Mexico because there
isn't any.
Look my Wife's family work for the Mexican Government-PGR,PGJE and the and the Court. The stories they tell me are hard to believe but are true. The
problem is in Mexico you don't know who you can trust. In the USA 99.999% of the time you trust a Policeman,Judge,Fireman,Prosecuter,ETC. In
Mexico-Good luck.
What I do love is the Mexican People(especially my wife) and the great things we love in Baja.............Hopefully one day they can beat the Cartel.
[Edited on 3-10-2011 by yellowklr]
Derek
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabass
Oh my gosh! Religious slander!! What is next??? This thread was started about the kindness and hospitality that 99% of the Mexican people show as a
common trait. Plenty of other threads about police corruption and the other negatives that DO exist here. |
Sht happens and threads morph.
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bajabass
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Carry on gentlemen
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
DENNIS...have always respected your viewpoints...and outright harsh statements
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Thanks, Bro........I'm not having such a good day, so I'll call it an evening.
G'nite.
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mcfez
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| Quote: | Originally posted by yellowklr
I love Mexico like most on this site........but Dennis is 100% right you can't compare the corruption or crime in the USA vs Mexico because there
isn't any.
Look my Wife's family work for the Mexican Government-PGR,PGJE and the and the Court. The stories they tell me are hard to believe but are true. The
problem is in Mexico you don't know who you can trust. In the USA 99.999% of the time you trust a Policeman,Judge,Fireman,Prosecuter,ETC. In
Mexico-Good luck. |
Have anyone here ever try to open a Night Club in San Francisco? Well ...I did....3 of of them in the 80's and 90's..one being 48000 sq ft off of Otis
Street. Let me tell you of the corruption of that city.....from The Fire Dept to the damn Police......it's beyond your comprehension. Some of you
paint the good ol USA as a freaking perfect place ...and dont have a clue what you are talking about. Reading newspaper accounts dont make you a
master of the subject. Try experience first hand.
Govt corruption here in the States has been around since the get go. You think Al Capone had a few judges in his pockets? Try dozens along with the
Mayor and Councilmen....so on and so on. Even earlier in history...there are thousands of cases of corruption. Yes...USA is not perfect...nor Baja.
Dont slander the entire Mexican state as being bad 100%....it aint.
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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