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JESSE
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One AMAZING Baja wine
Its here, someone has finally done it, a great AND affordable Baja wine. I just tasted the 2008 Casa Baloyan Tres Tintos, a blend of Syrah, Petit
verdot, Cab franc, and Merlot. The wine is AMAZING!!! and this from a guy who is very critical of Baja wines (me). The wine tastes like something $150
dollars from Napa, yet it only costs $300 pesos. Sophisticated, complex, fruit forward, velvety, are words that come to mind. Probably one of the best
wines i have ever tasted from Baja.
And heres the cherry on the cake. This wine isnt even their top wine. Theres a Cabernet Sauvignon selection at $500 pesos that my friends say will
blow me away.
Get it while you can, its not going to last, i am buying as much as i can.
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Great, thanks for the review, I'm always looking for a good wine.
What we see depends mainly on what we look for.
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Wouldn't blending wines be something like blending beers? I don't know. Neither do I know good wine from bad without giving it the pain test. If it
doesn't rip out my throat, it must be good.
Is wine blending common? This actually isn't the first time I've heard of it.
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wilderone
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Where is the winery? Where do you buy it? A 2008?
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Last night we tried the Montefiore Cab-Sangiovese (Valle de Guadalupe) and it's a VERY nice wine!
Friends don't let friends drink white zinfandel.
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Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Wouldn't blending wines be something like blending beers? I don't know. Neither do I know good wine from bad without giving it the pain test. If it
doesn't rip out my throat, it must be good.
Is wine blending common? This actually isn't the first time I've heard of it. |
Rather common and some very good wine comes from the proper blending of different grapes. Jim
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Quote: | Originally posted by mulegejim
Rather common and some very good wine comes from the proper blending of different grapes. Jim |
Ahhhsoooo....the grapes are mixed and not the finished product.
Thanks Jim. I'm on my way to becoming an expert.
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Never quit understood why a taste in wine shouldn't be subjective. Like... to each his own. (Padre Kino excluded)
Wine connoisseurs the world over are the ultimate in snobbery.
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Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote: | Originally posted by mulegejim
Rather common and some very good wine comes from the proper blending of different grapes. Jim |
Ahhhsoooo....the grapes are mixed and not the finished product.
Thanks Jim. I'm on my way to becoming an expert. |
Not necesarily; some grapes are barrelled separately blended and aged some more. The famous Bordeaux wines are a blend of 5 grapes.
I love wines from more then one grape. In NorCal they are called Meritage
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It also seems to have really nice legs also. That's always a winner with me
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Thank You, Jesse
I will be looking for this wine in Rosarito.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote: | Originally posted by mulegejim
Rather common and some very good wine comes from the proper blending of different grapes. Jim |
Ahhhsoooo....the grapes are mixed and not the finished product.
Thanks Jim. I'm on my way to becoming an expert. |
Sorry, I should have said the wines from different grapes are mixed - either way the result can be very good. Jim
[Edited on 4-19-2011 by mulegejim]
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Jesse-I'm glad you posted this. I am certainly not an expert but I do live in the middle of about 200+ wineries so I drink a lot of wine. I've always
felt Baja wines were WAY overpriced and really not that good and I'd just pretty much given up on them. So, thank you. I will try it next time I'm in
Baja. Do they have a tasting room?
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good post !!
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Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Wouldn't blending wines be something like blending beers? I don't know. Neither do I know good wine from bad without giving it the pain test. If it
doesn't rip out my throat, it must be good.
Is wine blending common? This actually isn't the first time I've heard of it. |
I've drank a lot of blends but Dennis's question piqued my curiosity so I did a little research about blending and found this website http://www.mywinesdirect.com/articles/blending-wine that gives a pretty good overview of it. Anyway, I found it interesting and thought maybe
other might too.
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I can understand where Jesse is coming from, because the Mexican wine industry has been a number of years behind the curve. But, as vintners work and
become more sophisticated, the products improve.
Think two buck chuck. Nothing to serve to friends on a special occasion, but as someone who remembers how awful the jug wines of old were, it's quite
a move forward.
That said, anyone tell me why so many Chilean and Australian wines are found on the wine lists of restaurants in Mexico? And most often at lower
prices?
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Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
That said, anyone tell me why so many Chilean and Australian wines are found on the wine lists of restaurants in Mexico? And most often at lower
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Maybe they're more down to earth pricing their product.
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Dennis,
You pose a very interesting question and one that deserves a more complete answer. My response will also address the condescension that many display
when they criticize those of us who appreciate fine wine as being snobs. Appreciation of wine is not a class issue. The Romans drank wine more than
water as the early Americans drank hard cider, these being the only safe alternative to what they had available to them.
Taste for wine is an acquired one and it takes a lot of time to be able to clearly identify the many flavors available to us in a glass of wine. Being
able to identify the various flavors in wine is also a great pleasure and one that wine lovers often share, much as one might share their experiences
of watching an NBA final game vs. a typical regular season game. One can learn from the experience and observations of others. I think that often
those who do not know about wine see this sharing of adjectives and observations as some sort of arcane snobbery. Sometimes this is true, however for
most of us it is an added pleasure to be able to compare notes with others who know their pallet and their wine. One never can know all there is to
know about wine and our tastes change over time as our taste buds age, pity that!
Wine making and blending is one of mankind’s oldest activities. Wine has more taste esters than any other food and cheese comes in second. From this
you can see why they are so often paired together and combining these with fruit, i.e. the Bosque pair can be heaven!
Different grapes have different qualities, have you ever tasted a Concord grape or a Thompson Seedless? These are very different grapes but can give
you some sense of the difference you can experience with grapes. You will also note that riper grapes tend to be sweeter than young grapes, which can
actually be sour tasting. You will also notice if you pay attention that the layer under the skin of a Concord tastes different than the skin or the
fruit surrounding the pits. There are many layers to grapes and some have more than others.
The famous French Bordeaux wine is a blend of Cabernet Sauvignon and Merlot with a bit of Cab Franc thrown in for added flavors, finish, acidity etc.
Cabernet can be very complex but lack body and have a long finish, the flavors left in the mouth after swallowing. Merlot has lots of body but not
much finish, a good one is big in the mouth and has a velvety finish. Cab Franc adds lighter notes to the blend and also added to the finish. Together
blends can be better than the single wines of which they are composed. This is not to say that each unique varietal does not stand its own merits,
indeed they do!
My current favorite wines are those built on the Southern French Rhone model, primarily the red Syrah blended with the white Viognier grape. My
favorite French Rhones are the famous Châteauneuf-du-Pape and the Hermitage. There are wonderful Rhone type wines being produced in Eastern Washington
and California.
The blend Jesse describes for us sounds like a wonderful blend that would have lots of fruit forward, good body and a long finish, all qualities that
those of us who appreciate fine wines enjoy. To my taste Baja has not had this sort of wine available at these low prices and his sharing this
information with us is a real gift. Thank you Jesse and great question Dennis.
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Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
That said, anyone tell me why so many Chilean and Australian wines are found on the wine lists of restaurants in Mexico? And most often at lower
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I wonder if it has something to do with import tax. I don't see too many US wines down there, not even at Costco.
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Nice comback, Flyfish!
Glad to see the more serious discussion on this topic. You don't have to be a snob to appreciate good wine. And this one from Casa Bayolan is really
splendid.
The grass is always greener....
and so, there is always a better spot in Baja
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