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One AMAZING Baja wine


Its here, someone has finally done it, a great AND affordable Baja wine. I just tasted the 2008 Casa Baloyan Tres Tintos, a blend of Syrah, Petit verdot, Cab franc, and Merlot. The wine is AMAZING!!! and this from a guy who is very critical of Baja wines (me). The wine tastes like something $150 dollars from Napa, yet it only costs $300 pesos. Sophisticated, complex, fruit forward, velvety, are words that come to mind. Probably one of the best wines i have ever tasted from Baja.

And heres the cherry on the cake. This wine isnt even their top wine. Theres a Cabernet Sauvignon selection at $500 pesos that my friends say will blow me away.

Get it while you can, its not going to last, i am buying as much as i can.





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[*] posted on 4-19-2011 at 04:54 AM


Great, thanks for the review, I'm always looking for a good wine.



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[*] posted on 4-19-2011 at 06:58 AM


Wouldn't blending wines be something like blending beers? I don't know. Neither do I know good wine from bad without giving it the pain test. If it doesn't rip out my throat, it must be good.

Is wine blending common? This actually isn't the first time I've heard of it.
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[*] posted on 4-19-2011 at 07:17 AM


Where is the winery? Where do you buy it? A 2008?
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[*] posted on 4-19-2011 at 07:19 AM


Last night we tried the Montefiore Cab-Sangiovese (Valle de Guadalupe) and it's a VERY nice wine!



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[*] posted on 4-19-2011 at 07:22 AM


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Wouldn't blending wines be something like blending beers? I don't know. Neither do I know good wine from bad without giving it the pain test. If it doesn't rip out my throat, it must be good.

Is wine blending common? This actually isn't the first time I've heard of it.


Rather common and some very good wine comes from the proper blending of different grapes. Jim
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[*] posted on 4-19-2011 at 08:18 AM


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Rather common and some very good wine comes from the proper blending of different grapes. Jim


Ahhhsoooo....the grapes are mixed and not the finished product.
Thanks Jim. I'm on my way to becoming an expert.
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[*] posted on 4-19-2011 at 08:27 AM


Never quit understood why a taste in wine shouldn't be subjective. Like... to each his own. (Padre Kino excluded)
Wine connoisseurs the world over are the ultimate in snobbery.:P:biggrin:




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[*] posted on 4-19-2011 at 01:29 PM


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Rather common and some very good wine comes from the proper blending of different grapes. Jim


Ahhhsoooo....the grapes are mixed and not the finished product.
Thanks Jim. I'm on my way to becoming an expert.


Not necesarily; some grapes are barrelled separately blended and aged some more. The famous Bordeaux wines are a blend of 5 grapes.
I love wines from more then one grape. In NorCal they are called Meritage
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[*] posted on 4-19-2011 at 02:01 PM


It also seems to have really nice legs also. That's always a winner with me:lol:
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[*] posted on 4-19-2011 at 02:17 PM
Thank You, Jesse


I will be looking for this wine in Rosarito.



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[*] posted on 4-19-2011 at 02:53 PM


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Rather common and some very good wine comes from the proper blending of different grapes. Jim


Ahhhsoooo....the grapes are mixed and not the finished product.
Thanks Jim. I'm on my way to becoming an expert.


Sorry, I should have said the wines from different grapes are mixed - either way the result can be very good. Jim

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[*] posted on 4-19-2011 at 03:55 PM


Jesse-I'm glad you posted this. I am certainly not an expert but I do live in the middle of about 200+ wineries so I drink a lot of wine. I've always felt Baja wines were WAY overpriced and really not that good and I'd just pretty much given up on them. So, thank you. I will try it next time I'm in Baja. Do they have a tasting room?



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[*] posted on 4-19-2011 at 04:04 PM


good post !!




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[*] posted on 4-19-2011 at 04:11 PM


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Wouldn't blending wines be something like blending beers? I don't know. Neither do I know good wine from bad without giving it the pain test. If it doesn't rip out my throat, it must be good.

Is wine blending common? This actually isn't the first time I've heard of it.

I've drank a lot of blends but Dennis's question piqued my curiosity so I did a little research about blending and found this website http://www.mywinesdirect.com/articles/blending-wine that gives a pretty good overview of it. Anyway, I found it interesting and thought maybe other might too.




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[*] posted on 4-19-2011 at 04:13 PM


I can understand where Jesse is coming from, because the Mexican wine industry has been a number of years behind the curve. But, as vintners work and become more sophisticated, the products improve.

Think two buck chuck. Nothing to serve to friends on a special occasion, but as someone who remembers how awful the jug wines of old were, it's quite a move forward.

That said, anyone tell me why so many Chilean and Australian wines are found on the wine lists of restaurants in Mexico? And most often at lower prices?
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[*] posted on 4-19-2011 at 04:25 PM


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That said, anyone tell me why so many Chilean and Australian wines are found on the wine lists of restaurants in Mexico? And most often at lower prices?


Maybe they're more down to earth pricing their product.:?:




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[*] posted on 4-19-2011 at 04:27 PM


Dennis,

You pose a very interesting question and one that deserves a more complete answer. My response will also address the condescension that many display when they criticize those of us who appreciate fine wine as being snobs. Appreciation of wine is not a class issue. The Romans drank wine more than water as the early Americans drank hard cider, these being the only safe alternative to what they had available to them.

Taste for wine is an acquired one and it takes a lot of time to be able to clearly identify the many flavors available to us in a glass of wine. Being able to identify the various flavors in wine is also a great pleasure and one that wine lovers often share, much as one might share their experiences of watching an NBA final game vs. a typical regular season game. One can learn from the experience and observations of others. I think that often those who do not know about wine see this sharing of adjectives and observations as some sort of arcane snobbery. Sometimes this is true, however for most of us it is an added pleasure to be able to compare notes with others who know their pallet and their wine. One never can know all there is to know about wine and our tastes change over time as our taste buds age, pity that!

Wine making and blending is one of mankind’s oldest activities. Wine has more taste esters than any other food and cheese comes in second. From this you can see why they are so often paired together and combining these with fruit, i.e. the Bosque pair can be heaven!

Different grapes have different qualities, have you ever tasted a Concord grape or a Thompson Seedless? These are very different grapes but can give you some sense of the difference you can experience with grapes. You will also note that riper grapes tend to be sweeter than young grapes, which can actually be sour tasting. You will also notice if you pay attention that the layer under the skin of a Concord tastes different than the skin or the fruit surrounding the pits. There are many layers to grapes and some have more than others.

The famous French Bordeaux wine is a blend of Cabernet Sauvignon and Merlot with a bit of Cab Franc thrown in for added flavors, finish, acidity etc. Cabernet can be very complex but lack body and have a long finish, the flavors left in the mouth after swallowing. Merlot has lots of body but not much finish, a good one is big in the mouth and has a velvety finish. Cab Franc adds lighter notes to the blend and also added to the finish. Together blends can be better than the single wines of which they are composed. This is not to say that each unique varietal does not stand its own merits, indeed they do!

My current favorite wines are those built on the Southern French Rhone model, primarily the red Syrah blended with the white Viognier grape. My favorite French Rhones are the famous Châteauneuf-du-Pape and the Hermitage. There are wonderful Rhone type wines being produced in Eastern Washington and California.

The blend Jesse describes for us sounds like a wonderful blend that would have lots of fruit forward, good body and a long finish, all qualities that those of us who appreciate fine wines enjoy. To my taste Baja has not had this sort of wine available at these low prices and his sharing this information with us is a real gift. Thank you Jesse and great question Dennis.

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[*] posted on 4-19-2011 at 04:35 PM


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That said, anyone tell me why so many Chilean and Australian wines are found on the wine lists of restaurants in Mexico? And most often at lower prices?


Maybe they're more down to earth pricing their product.:?:

I wonder if it has something to do with import tax. I don't see too many US wines down there, not even at Costco.




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[*] posted on 4-19-2011 at 06:22 PM


Nice comback, Flyfish!
Glad to see the more serious discussion on this topic. You don't have to be a snob to appreciate good wine. And this one from Casa Bayolan is really splendid.




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