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[*] posted on 9-28-2011 at 10:29 PM
Old Airplane and More on Isla Guadalupe


These photos are posted here with the permission of our good friend Oscar Salazar. Oscar is a great young biologist who has worked at the research station on Isla Guadalupe.

Here are just a couple of his photos --- they make us want to be there!

For the pilots around here, what vintage is this plane?





And just some nice photos of a beautiful place















And just for fun, a photo we took of Oscar having fun in Bahia Asuncion when he was there working on the local islands.



He is one of the young people who give so much hope for the future of the environment in Baja.





[Edited on 9-29-2011 by DianaT]




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[*] posted on 9-28-2011 at 10:45 PM


Very cool. thanks!! I know what you mean about wanting to be there.:yes:



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[*] posted on 9-28-2011 at 10:54 PM


Nice shots. Isla Guadalupe is a very interesting place. A small island, it even has different micro-climates that are different in temperatures and rainfall/humidity, due to the steep mountains and it's position in the ocean.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guadalupe_Island

Many go there to see the White Sharks, but fishing for many species is amazing there too. Years back I mounted an expedition to go out there on my boat with two other buddy boats from San Quintin. Had a 30' twin diesel at the time, but on the week of the departure the weather pattern just wasn't in our favor, and it's a long way out there for something to go wrong, so I made the call and forfeited the trip. Same thing happened to another ex-Nomad, Ofer.

I still intend to go, probably on a San Diego long range boat like the Shogun, but there is no way I'm getting in the water. I'll leave that to Ken Bondy.

I'd love to explore the island itself, but my understanding is that it's not generally permitted.

Answers on the airplane are on an old Nomad thread:

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=42416


[Edited on 9-29-2011 by Roberto]
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[*] posted on 9-28-2011 at 11:17 PM


Very sad viewing that old thread with happy smiling Carlos Fiesta. Also posts from the always entertaining and now stealth Fishbuck and where has Captain Mike been?



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[*] posted on 9-29-2011 at 07:16 AM


The plane is a Lockheed Lodestar, a smuggler's best friend.
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[*] posted on 9-29-2011 at 07:40 AM


Spectacular Guadalupe photos Diana!! That's a very special place, beautiful, mysterious. And the big white sharks cruising just offshore certainly adds to the scene!! Here's a view of the island approaching from the north:





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[*] posted on 9-29-2011 at 08:00 AM


As pretty as the island is now, I have read old accounts of when the island was first discovered and it is desribed as being lush with vegetation and flocks of parrots. Since the goats were dropped off on the island over the years they have pretty much denuded it. Really great diving around there.
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[*] posted on 9-29-2011 at 08:20 AM


Diane's post brought back some nice Guadalupe memories. Sorry for the hijack Diane,







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[*] posted on 9-29-2011 at 08:47 AM


Great photos! Would love to spend a few days photographing the island. Are there outfitters that offer trips?
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[*] posted on 9-29-2011 at 08:50 AM


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Very sad viewing that old thread with happy smiling Carlos Fiesta. Also posts from the always entertaining and now stealth Fishbuck and where has Captain Mike been?



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Is that Carlos Fiesta sitting on the wrecked plane? I thought I saw these photos before, but I couldn't put my finger on it! Getting old sucks!




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[*] posted on 9-29-2011 at 09:48 AM


No David, that is not Carlos---

Larry, yes goats were a huge problem. Here is a link to an article from Jon P. Rebman, curator of botany at the San Diego Natural History Museum from May of 2010. He had sworn he would never go back, but he did and was glad he did. The Mexican government along with a non-profit got rid of the goats, dog packs and were working on the cats. Old plants were returning.

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=45777#pid5158...

And here is a link to more of Ken Bondy's great photos ---crazy man swims with the Great White Sharks. :biggrin:

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=46626#pid5300...

I know that access is limited---not sure what it would take, but I can ask a few questions.

We got to know Oscar while he and a group were working on the Asuncion and San Roque Island the last couple of years----he will be back ---- these biologists are a great group of well trained and educated young people who represent the best hope for protecting the environment in many areas. And while they work hard, they are also a lot of fun when not working!

Here are a couple more of Oscar's photos that show a little more of the diversity that Roberto mentioned and the research station on the island.





One he calls a monument to the goats.









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[*] posted on 9-29-2011 at 09:59 AM


I fished the Lupe in 1963,four days of wonderment,those clouds would form every morning and roll in from the top,the lost world very errie place,their was talk of Godzilla in those fog banks.

Bluefin on the south-end and large Yellows on the north,hooked two of the biggest somethings of my life:lol:

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[*] posted on 9-29-2011 at 10:05 AM


is there fresh water on the island ?




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[*] posted on 9-29-2011 at 10:55 AM
not much time sadly


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Very sad viewing that old thread with happy smiling Carlos Fiesta. Also posts from the always entertaining and now stealth Fishbuck and where has Captain Mike been?



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thot it looked like an old A26 or B25.

lockheed sounds about right but that narrow nose??




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[*] posted on 9-29-2011 at 11:37 AM


Thanks for posting Diana, honestly I never knew this island existed so the information about this "new place" is a Baja bonus for me...



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[*] posted on 9-29-2011 at 11:42 AM


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Thanks for posting Diana, honestly I never knew this island existed so the information about this "new place" is a Baja bonus for me...


It does look like a beautiful and interesting place to visit.

BTW---did I ever tell you that we regret having sold that generator? There have been more than one time we could have used it. Don't know what we thinking at the time! Oh well, at least it went to good home. Tell it hello and I hope it is still working well for you. :biggrin:




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[*] posted on 9-29-2011 at 11:49 AM


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Thanks for posting Diana, honestly I never knew this island existed so the information about this "new place" is a Baja bonus for me...


It does look like a beautiful and interesting place to visit.

BTW---did I ever tell you that we regret having sold that generator? There have been more than one time we could have used it. Don't know what we thinking at the time! Oh well, at least it went to good home. Tell it hello and I hope it is still working well for you. :biggrin:


It is working very well in fact.

It runs every minute we are at our Beach House on a bulk 6 gallon fuel tank and there are literally thousands of hours on it now. We have a second one as well and the use is split evenly as far as hours go. Generators get real unhappy if they're not run regularly even reliable Hondas.

The bulk fuel tank is now located in another area of the garage, this was the experimental phase and as you can see the exhaust is directed to a pipe which runs beyond the height of our two story home.


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[*] posted on 9-29-2011 at 11:53 AM


So, if someone wanted to take a trip to the island and do some fishing, exploring, camping or finding accommodations (lodging, food etc.) would it be possible? Do you need special permission to go there? How do you get it and from whom?.....dt



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[*] posted on 9-29-2011 at 12:17 PM


DT, I don't know the answer to your question. What I do know, is that the San Diego boats that go there (Long Range Sportfishing boats), do not have permission to put people ashore. The Shogun out of San Diego (http://www.shogunsportfishing.com/) does lots of expeditions, that are not for fishing, like to Clipperton and even the Revillagigedos, though I'm not sure if they still do those, and go often to Guadalupe, or used to. They are the first people I would call. Even if they can't help you directly, in terms of taking you, they may very well know who to ask. There is a small Navy base on the island and a settlement as well, and I think they will put you up. Arranging it and getting there is another question. Due to the remoteness of the location, I would expect that getting there will cost a pretty penny except on a LR boat, but you couldn't get off one of those.
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[*] posted on 9-29-2011 at 12:33 PM


MEXICO, Guadalupe Island, Baja California Pacific - January 2010
Sea water desalination system in exchange for a 1,235-acre marine reserve for a duration of 10 years *


The link is on one of the highlights on google earth. looks like the plant was delivered last June.

http://www.seacology.org/projects/individualprojects/MEXICO_...

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