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[*] posted on 12-10-2011 at 05:46 AM
Federal Law..anyhere to get a copy?


What I am looking for is documentation. Statutory law. I know call me crazy for asking, but there has to be something written down, somewhere.

The latest practice by the Fed boys is to set up shop, once again coming and going from CSL airport. They are pretty much there all the time mind you, but this latest is different I think.

They are asking for auto papers, looking under the hood, making people take everything out of the car. One older guy from the US was told his papers were out of wack and it was a felony. He met the feds at mega gave them 1,400 US

I would like a copy of the Fed law here on what is the range of the fine on vehicle registration, and carry them with me

I will be a googling today but did not know if any lawyers were in the house.
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[*] posted on 12-10-2011 at 08:46 AM


I would write to the federal government directly or go and visit them, there is a large office in La Paz which has a standing table with an ombusman to support victims and one to support defendants. They will help you and will pursue issues such as this eventually.

In most cases these threats are just threats to scare you if you are not scared the problem goes away fast. Don't be in a hurry. You need to out-patience their patience.

Not sure this helps or even applies but give a look using a search engine and use translation on gob mx federal ley

http://mexico.justia.com/federales/leyes/

http://www.setravi.df.gob.mx/index.jsp



If in fact a cars papers are wrong, that is the numbers don't match, it would not be a surprise if the federal police would say they want to hold the vehicle and it might be hard to get it back. Also, if you are an FM-2 holder and have a USA plated vehicle that could be an issue.

In the case of the area of there by the airport I would avoid that toll road like the plague.

There are different jurisdictions per road everywhere and one should understand there is a different set of rules that apply to rural, city, state, or federal.

Now that Onapafa or whatever it was called is no longer valid there are tons of vehicles with no plates that drive everywhere in BCS but never enter a federal jurisdiction.
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[*] posted on 12-10-2011 at 09:25 AM


Maybe there is heightened inspections because of intelligence regarding drug cartels. There have been incidents lately - Cabo, and Baja generally, can't afford to allow the cape area to be infiltrated and overtaken by cartel violence. How do you know: "One older guy from the US was told his papers were out of wack and it was a felony. He met the feds at mega gave them 1,400 US." Out of wack? If he had any defense at all, why would he pay off the feds? I would think if your vehicle and visa documents are in order (as they should be), you have no contraband in your car, then why worry about it? A part-time american resident in El Rosario told me that he bought his jeep very cheap and knew it was stolen. Maybe they're finally cracking down on auto theft. I don't understand what you're protesting. Military inspections have been around a long time.
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[*] posted on 12-10-2011 at 11:25 AM


These are the blue with white stripe federal cops. not military. The old guy got spooked. we have friends who know him close by. They don't get under my skin, but think sharing information on what they are doing and knowing what to ask does not hurt.
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[*] posted on 12-10-2011 at 11:47 AM
A word to the wise


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Originally posted by measomsan
I would like a copy of the Fed law here on what is the range of the fine on vehicle registration, and carry them with me


Waving a copy of Mexican law under any Mexican official's nose tends to pi$$ them off.




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[*] posted on 12-10-2011 at 12:12 PM


Not so very long ago the Federal Highway police (and others I suppose) recognized they had practically unlimited authority on the Via Rapida and on or near the airport.

The airport, being a Federal Point of Entry has special rules that address issues of international crime, terrorism, etc. 1000 fold more strict and complex than the simple general rules of the road which apply on Highway One, a little different in each pueblo one would pass though and on a drive down the peninsula.

They learned that if they stopped you and found camp stove propane in your trunk or the back of your SUV they could cite rules that apply at the airport vis a vis inflamables under pressure --- THEN THE PRICE GOES UP TO ALLOW YOU TO GO HAPPILY ON YOUR WAY OR TO THE CALABOZO.

Some of the Federales have a cell phone on them so when you say "No Comprendo" they whip it out, punch a number and an English speaking accomplice on the phone explains how painfull it's gonna be when they impound your car, everybody in it goes to Mexican prison for life.

OONOPAFA is not defunct. That's just chisme. There are a million stories about what is happening at the airport -- who you gonna believe? Just keep your wits about you and use common sense in dealing with ANYONE, ANYWHERE IN MEXICO WHO TRIES TO MAKE YOU A CRIMINAL WHILE YOU HAVE BEEN RESPECTFUL AND LAW ABIDING.
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[*] posted on 12-10-2011 at 12:14 PM


I just posted this link on the Aguinaldo thread and it occured to me this guy may have your answers:

http://glennmcbride.com/
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[*] posted on 12-10-2011 at 12:27 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by measomsan
What I am looking for is documentation. Statutory law. I know call me crazy for asking, but there has to be something written down, somewhere.


That would be a total waste of time. Forget about your North American concept of The Law. In Mexico, laws are just vague guidelines that are used as profit centers by the police and bureaucrats to extort money. The police can legally stop and search you and they do not have to demonstrate any probable cause beyond saying you have an "aspecto mal," you looked like a criminal.
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