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David K
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LOST LAKE in BAJA!
Okay amigos, I brought this up in another thread and feel it is time to show my cards!
For starters, I was not the one who 'discovered' the lost lake (it's still lost, anyway)... Baja Nomad BillB showed it to me on his lap top's stored
satellite images... after Viva Baja 4, in Mike Humfreville's hotel room.
Bill (see his pic at http://vivabaja.com/vivabaja4/page2.html )has a Rokon 2 wheel drive motorcycle for exploring Baja. Mcgyver and Corky1 joined with him, looking for
a trail between Huerfanito and El Marmol in El Volcan wash.
He has been seeking a way into SalSiPuedes canyon, following Erle Stanley Gardner's lead (Hovering Over Baja), and has been using satellite images for
routes in. That's when he saw this fair size body of water between Laguna Chapala and the Pacific... the lost lake!
Thanks to our new Baja Nomad amigo, Satellite Man ( http://www.wvvinc.com ), I have some close ups. I am making a web page that might have more and better shots of the image below.... So, stay
tuned Baja exploring fans!!!
Web page: http://community-2.webtv.net/boojum1/lostlake
[Edited on 9-24-2004 by David K]
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Lost Lake Photo... showing it with bulls eye on it and Laguna Chapala to the northeast.
[Edited on 9-24-2004 by David K]
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Okay, here is a close up photo. To the southwest of the lake, a road can be seen. The bulls eye is in the same spot as the first photo, but this photo
was taken two years later. The lake is 50%+ lower/shallower. The bulls eye in both images is GPS waypoint: N29?15', W114?35', or on the line between
Map 18 and 20 in the Almanac. Just a tiny dry lake is shown on 18.
[Edited on 9-26-2004 by David K]
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Yep!, David as you know you could lose an aircraft carrier back in some of those canyons, we will get too it this year!
I was amazed in one canyon when after traveling 1 1/2 miles by odometer I was only 100 yards from where I started.
I would sure like to see some of the goverments best photos!!
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Dave
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Trying to make sense in comparing the two pics as one target is lower left and the other upper right. A compass rose or true north would help.
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Lost Lakes
http://groups.msn.com/TheBajasBestGuidesPhotoAlbum
I think we are up to about 7 "lost lakes", that are year round, with fish, that aren't on any maps. And then there's the other "stuff" not
frequented by the masses !
The Baja Desert, Righty-oh. 
PS. When you click on the link, go to pictures in the left column and then go to the "Unknown Lakes" heading.
[Edited on 9/24/2004 by jrbaja]
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The lakes are dry, at least when I've seen them--like Chapala--vernal, although with more green riparian plants around the edges.
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David K
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Web Page Made
Perhaps better detail? See my Lost Lake page at http://community-2.webtv.net/boojum1/lostlake
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
Trying to make sense in comparing the two pics as one target is lower left and the other upper right. A compass rose or true north would help.
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Sure Dave, no problema... Both images are like maps with the top being true north. The top image was taken in 1999 and shows a BIG area... almost to
the Pacific, on the left/west edge. The bulls eye is the waypoint 29?15' X 114?35', right on the lake.
The second image was taken two years later and is a closer-in, higher resolution photo. The bulls eye (and the lake) have not moved, the photo is just
centered to the southwest of the lake... instead of the northeast of it, as in first image.
Hope that helps...
[Edited on 9-26-2004 by David K]
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Are these some of the "secret" surf spots in BAJA that no one talks about?....
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The bulls eye and orientation on both maps seems close. I can correlate the strong ridge line to the lower left of the lake in both photos.
Looks like a great adventure but rugged terrain possibly steep mountain sides would mean big bouldered areas so hiking may be your only way to get
there. Lotsa snakes in those boulder fields...
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Looking again I notice the river bed twists and turns probably meaning that is the best way up but probably a lot of altitude gain. What do the
topographical maps say about the elevation change?
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David
Here's a 3D projection of the area with the Lost Lake coord's in about the center of the picture. Elevation about 395 meters with sides of the
projection N-S.
[Edited on 9-24-2004 by bajalou]
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Nomad Baja Interactive map
And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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flyby
someone whos been flying over the area should have some input??
jerry and judi
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I'll see if Taco de Baja and Huddo want to drive there to take pics for you this week....we'll be in the sisters anyway.....
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David K
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Mexitron, that would be great! Did I understand from your previous post that you have been on that unmapped road and saw the lost lake (as well as El
Islote lake west of Chapala)?
Jerry, it is not under any typical flight paths. Most pilots follow either coast or Highway 1 for VFR in Baja. A compass heading flight from San
Felipe or Rancho Santa Ynez TO Bahia Tortugas is the only way I think a pilot would intentionally fly over that lake...???
Bajalou, love your 3-D program... Can you super-impose a scale so we can get an idea of what area of the Baja Almanac you gave us?
Thanks Baja Explorers!
PS Bill has more satellite images over the past 20 years and says the lake is wet in more than it is dry... I will add them to the web page if he gets
them to me. http://community-2.webtv.net/boojum1/lostlake
[Edited on 9-25-2004 by David K]
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David I'll try and possibly overlay with the Inegi topo for the area - gives you some more idea of the terrain.
No Bad Days
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Hi all,
Following are some 3D renderings of the ?Lost Lake? area. Enjoy and feel free to ask questions.
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