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EnsenadaDr
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Ripping me off at the gas pump???
Yesterday, I stopped for gas at an Oxxo/Pemex gasolinera, about 2 miles from Maneadero, and asked for $20 American in gas. The attendant pumped the
gas, and wiped the windshield. After he pumped the gas, I saw the amount on the readout on the pump, which said, 222.43. I asked him in Spanish,
"What is your exchange rate today??" He looked at me appearing confused and said, "What??" I repeated the question, and still he appeared befuddled.
I asked for the manager, whose name was Mario. I asked Mario the same question. He answered, "13.4" which would have made the correct amount in
pesos for my gas purchase to be 268.00. More than 40.00 pesos difference!!! Mario asked the guy why he pumped less, and he said, "No entiendo
Ingles". I told the guy 20 dolares in Spanish...anyways, Mario made him pump the difference...BUYERS BEWARE!!!
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Marc
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I carry $USD as a backup, but I always do business in Mexico with coin of the realm.
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woody with a view
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good catch. maybe he considered it his tip for washing your window which you neglected to give him?
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EnsenadaDr
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Neglected tip??
Now Woody, I ALWAYS give my window washers 2 pesos for washing my windows...5 on Christmas!!! | Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
good catch. maybe he considered it his tip for washing your window which you neglected to give him? |
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SFandH
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
..anyways, Mario made him pump the difference...BUYERS BEWARE!!! |
You probably still got shorted because PEMEX liters are smaller than liters elsewhere. But I think most people know that.
This past trip it consistently took 22 liters to fill my gas can that I use for boat fuel to the 20 liter mark. So when you convert the cost of gas in
Mexico to dollars/gallon, don't forget to add 10% to account for the "PEMEX liter" volumetric tax. It's the Mexican way, instead of raising the price
per liter, they shrink the size of the liter - same result but with less consumer dissatisfaction. 
[Edited on 1-11-2012 by SFandH]
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aguachico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SFandH
You probably still got shorted because PEMEX liters are smaller than liters elsewhere. But I think most people know that.
This past trip it consistently took 22 liters to fill my gas can that I use for boat fuel to the 20 liter mark. So when you convert the cost of gas in
Mexico to dollars/gallon, don't forget to add 10% to account for the "PEMEX liter" volumetric tax. It's the Mexican way, instead of raising the price
per liter, they shrink the size of the liter - same result but with less consumer dissatisfaction.
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Is this reduction of liter documented and controlled by Pemex, urban legend or just the stations way of ripping off the customer?
There's a Pemex on Casa Blanca TJ that people lineup 20 cars deep to pump gas. I asked the chapis why is this? She said it's because they give you
the entire liter. I thought she was loca and brushed it off. For two years I've watched this and it hasn't let up.
Last week I needed a tank full of diesel and didn't have pesos. I had plenty of USD and normally the rate is really good for dollars along the border
13.5 on average now. I pulled into the new Pemex at La Salina/Mision. The posted rate was 13.05 - ratas! So I for the first time I used my ATM card
at a PEMEX. Checked the bank account the rate was 13.7 - yeah baby.
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bajaguy
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ALWAYS
Deal in Pesos when in Baja
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msteve1014
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That depends on the station. Last week I had my extra tank filled at 2 differant places. They both got 93 L in, right to the top. 24 gallons is what
it will take in the states. No rip off here.
| Quote: | Originally posted by SFandH
| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
..anyways, Mario made him pump the difference...BUYERS BEWARE!!! |
You probably still got shorted because PEMEX liters are smaller than liters elsewhere. But I think most people know that.
This past trip it consistently took 22 liters to fill my gas can that I use for boat fuel to the 20 liter mark. So when you convert the cost of gas in
Mexico to dollars/gallon, don't forget to add 10% to account for the "PEMEX liter" volumetric tax. It's the Mexican way, instead of raising the price
per liter, they shrink the size of the liter - same result but with less consumer dissatisfaction.
[Edited on 1-11-2012 by SFandH] |
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Bob and Susan
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SFandH
You probably still got shorted because PEMEX liters are smaller than liters elsewhere. But I think most people know that.
This past trip it consistently took 22 liters to fill my gas can that I use for boat fuel to the 20 liter mark. So when you convert the cost of gas in
Mexico to dollars/gallon, don't forget to add 10% to account for the "PEMEX liter" volumetric tax. It's the Mexican way, instead of raising the price
per liter, they shrink the size of the liter - same result but with less consumer dissatisfaction.
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prove it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbYEtyjVnPY
i hate to repost but it is what it is...
as for the ATM...
beware there ARE fees
you wont get the post rate!!!
i get money all the time out of an ATM
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Bob and Susan
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Yesterday, I stopped for gas at an Oxxo/Pemex gasolinera, about 2 miles from Maneadero, and asked for $20 American in gas. The attendant pumped the
gas, and wiped the windshield. After he pumped the gas, I saw the amount on the readout on the pump, which said, 222.43. I asked him in Spanish,
"What is your exchange rate today??" He looked at me appearing confused and said, "What??" I repeated the question, and still he appeared befuddled.
I asked for the manager, whose name was Mario. I asked Mario the same question. He answered, "13.4" which would have made the correct amount in
pesos for my gas purchase to be 268.00. More than 40.00 pesos difference!!! Mario asked the guy why he pumped less, and he said, "No entiendo
Ingles". I told the guy 20 dolares in Spanish...anyways, Mario made him pump the difference...BUYERS BEWARE!!! |
your fault...you're a doctor!!!
you should have worked out the amount in pesos BEFORE he started the pump...
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Barry A.
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I have noticed that my "6 gallon" boat tanks consistantly take more than "6 gallons" when I fill them to the top here in the USA. I always figured I
was over-filling them beyond design or recommended limits.
There are lots of variables--------
Barry
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SFandH
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The gas container I have is a new plastic one. It has both 5 gallon and 20 liter lines indented in the plastic. At the PEMEX south of Mulege it took
22 liters to fill to the 20 liter mark.
I noticed when I asked the attendant for 20 liters of gas. The pump stopped at exactly 20 liters and the gas was not up to the 20 liter line. I asked
him to fill it to the line and it took 2 more liters. Either the pump was mis-calibrated or my container has the 20 liter mark in the wrong place.
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Bob and Susan
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SFandH
The gas container I have is a new plastic one. It has both 5 gallon and 20 liter lines indented in the plastic. At the PEMEX south of Mulege it took
22 liters to fill to the 20 liter mark.
I noticed when I asked the attendant for 20 liters of gas. The pump stopped at exactly 20 liters and the gas was not up to the 20 liter line. I asked
him to fill it to the line and it took 2 more liters. Either the pump was mis-calibrated or my container has the 20 liter mark in the wrong place.
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soooo...did you check your gas container for accuracy?
again...prove it...i did
this is how "stories and myths" continue...fools
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by msteve1014
That depends on the station. Last week I had my extra tank filled at 2 differant places. They both got 93 L in, right to the top. 24 gallons is what
it will take in the states. No rip off here.
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let's see if I have this right:
1US liquid gallon = 3.785411 Mexican litros; so 24 gal x 3.785411 litros/ gal = 90.85 litros but you got 93 instead? Wow, only 2.4% error. That is
some kinda bargin 
[Edited on 1-11-2012 by durrelllrobert]
[Edited on 1-11-2012 by durrelllrobert]
Bob Durrell
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| Quote: | soooo...did you check your gas container for accuracy?
again...prove it...i did
this is how "stories and myths" continue...fools |
Sooooo...Bob and Susan, you are going to argue for--indeed, defend--the accuracy of Pemex gas pumps? Who's the fool here?
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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sanquintinsince73
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Now Woody, I ALWAYS give my window washers 2 pesos for washing my windows...5 on Christmas!!! | Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
good catch. maybe he considered it his tip for washing your window which you neglected to give him? |
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Two whole pesos? Big spender. We covered this here before but a lot of these guys do not draw a salary, their salary are the tips that they receive
from us.
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Woooosh
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I keep getting legal mailings from COSTCO about their gas stations shorting people due to the higher temperature of the below ground storage tanks. A
class action lawsuit is working its way through the courts. Not just a Mexico problem.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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willardguy
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just last week I put 14 1/2 gallons into my 12 1/2 gallon gas tank, and wasnt even close to empty. this was at the arco on la tijera by LAX. so its
not just mexico, we just watch closer there.
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msteve1014
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| Quote: | Let me see if I got this right. You think that a 24 gallon tank will get filled to with in a half a gallon of full every time by every person that
fills it.
| Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
| Quote: | Originally posted by msteve1014
That depends on the station. Last week I had my extra tank filled at 2 differant places. They both got 93 L in, right to the top. 24 gallons is what
it will take in the states. No rip off here.
[Edited on 1-11-2012 by SFandH] |
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let's see if I have this right:
1US liquid gallon = 3.785411 Mexican litros; so 24 gal x 3.785411 litros/ gal = 90.85 litros but you got 93 instead? Wow, only 2.4% error. That is
some kinda bargin
[Edited on 1-11-2012 by durrelllrobert]
[Edited on 1-11-2012 by durrelllrobert] |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
I keep getting legal mailings from COSTCO about their gas stations shorting people due to the higher temperature of the below ground storage tanks. A
class action lawsuit is working its way through the courts. Not just a Mexico problem. |
As far as I know all gas station tanks are below ground so they all should be at or near the same temperature for a given area. A lot of people think
that filling up in the morning will give them more gas since they think the gas will be colder but one of the magazines, Popular Mechanics or
Consumers Reports or maybe another, did some testing and said that was not true. They said the gas in the below ground tank stays pretty constant year
round. Now maybe when the gas comes out of the delivery tanker it's warmer so maybe buying gas right after the tanker was there should be avoided.
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