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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Yikes! Five Dollar A Gallon Gringo Gasoline? (!)
It really looks like a 20-gallon fill-up is going to cost a hundred bucks! And it won't be long before Mexico has to raise prices because 30% of the
gasoline in Mexico comes from Texas, sigh.
I need one of those Italika putt-putt jobs with the fiberglass cargo footballs. Do these things really get 100 mpg? And are they reliable for cruising
to the tienda or purified water depot?
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chuckie
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What is water?
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Ken Cooke
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USA prices based on speculation (overpriced!)
I am going on an off-road trip to Death Valley soon, and if it wasn't for my good friend wanting to do this trip, it would have been Baja, hands down.
Gasoline in the US is overpriced (based purely on speculation/futures), and for the price that we will pay for using our tents in campgrounds, my
Wife and I could stay in a motel!
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Cypress
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No drilling. No Keystone pipeline. Thank you Obama
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
No drilling. No Keystone pipeline. Thank you Obama |
I was concerned about this as well, but the pipeline project was going to be "rushed" without a means for dealing with a massive oil spill if one were
to occur. You can't fault the President for not wanting to rush legislation through without a solid "Plan B" in place. Do you remember the Deep
Water Horizon spill?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill
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Cypress
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
No drilling. No Keystone pipeline. Thank you Obama |
You can't fault the President .. Do you remember the Deep Water Horizon spill? |
Yep, my family lives down on the MS Gulf Coast. Know all about the oil spill. Compairing pipelines to off shore drilling rigs? Apples and oranges.
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
No drilling. No Keystone pipeline. Thank you Obama |
Keystone was supposed to run through Nebraska...but the Republicans said it might harm the environment/water table.....
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Cypress
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Bajaboy, How 'bout another sip of that cool aid?
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David K
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Yah funny stuff... blame Republicans for the pipeline veto by el presidente (D). In 2007-8 when gas last approached $4/ gallon the president (R) then
'opened-up' the ability to get our oil from our own land... and the price dropped drastically... was $1.89 at the end of Bush's term.
Naturally, this guy will do ANYTHING to get re-elected (even though he has been the worst president since Jimmy Carter)... and will do something (a
good president would do now), but wait just before the election that will drop the price. He is counting on the short memories many have when it comes
to politics.
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chuckie
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That pipeline was going to run right next to my property..We talked to the pipeliners about it.Nobody except the antieverythings had any concerns
about it.....
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mcfez
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When the United States pulled out of the Bretton Woods Accord back in 71......oils prices sky rocketed a few years later ....70% just in one instance.
Then that Opec oil embargo business was wonderful to deal with. I was in L.A. at the time. Bad place to be begging for gas.
Now this current price ...some folks are speaking of $5.50 by summer.
I just blame OUR government for not doing something about energy needs....that should had been seriously addressed back in the 70's.
[Edited on 2-24-2012 by mcfez]
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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coloradoboardheads
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I was for the pipeline...but, Obama's delay of the pipeline has nothing to do with gas prices now. Pipelines take a while to build (duh). The
pipeline would have allowed a duty free port for refineries to ship diesel, derived from Canadian oil fields, to lucrative European markets. Great
for profits for energy companies (fine with me) Not really that significant for our fuel prices.
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bigzaggin
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It's not always awesome to have a Baja rig...
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Cypress
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No drilling+No pipeline = $6/gal gasoline. Thanks Obama and cronies.
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
No drilling+No pipeline = $6/gal gasoline. Thanks Obama and cronies. |
Seems to me Obama war FOR offshore drilling before the big oil spill off LA. And isnt he for drilling off Alaska and has all the enviros going nuts?
Sorry, I dont give much credence to a person who couldnt even catch a fish in the Sea of Cortez. 
Think outside the Fox.
[Edited on 2-24-2012 by Hook]
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Cypress
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Hook, Have rediscovered better fishing grounds and very happy with 'em. Thinking
outside the Fox? Just stating the facts.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by coloradoboardheads
I was for the pipeline...but, Obama's delay of the pipeline has nothing to do with gas prices now. Pipelines take a while to build (duh). The
pipeline would have allowed a duty free port for refineries to ship diesel, derived from Canadian oil fields, to lucrative European markets. Great
for profits for energy companies (fine with me) Not really that significant for our fuel prices. |
the price of gasoline and diesel in USA is subject to global market price. relative to our consumption and the mobility of liquid petroleum, more or
less petroleum produced in in USA will not substantially change price at the pump.
silly to blame obama energy policy or decisions for price of gasoline at the [ump. the price jump is due to rise in global demand.
of course, if it makes you feel good to blame a democrat, then blame on, but don't expect any GOP policy to change our being subject to global market
(price could only be controlled by government if we nationalized oil and ran petrol market internally in USA ala Mexico or Venezuela).
if you want to blame someone or something, blame the social factors that lead you to buy and drive large fuel-inefficient vehicles, or blame there
auto industry that "convinced" you to buy a big vehicle.
lots of nice fuel efficient vehicles on the market these days. get a nice fuel efficient car and enjoy yourself!
don't worry, be happy!
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Roberto
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This is where I am REALLY happy to work in TJ a couple days a week. I also have changed the stock tank on my truck, and have two (not in the bed)
tanks for a total of 95 gallons. I also have an in-bed auxiliary 105 gallon tank, which I don't normally carry. That's going to change. 200 gallons
means I don't have to fuel for months. And it's diesel, so I pay less than gasoline. Eat your heart out Tacoma drivers. 
All this and noise and stink, too!
[Edited on 2-24-2012 by Roberto]
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
This is where I am REALLY happy to work in TJ a couple days a week. I also have changed the stock tank on my truck, and have two (not in the bed)
tanks for a total of 95 gallons. I also have an in-bed auxiliary 105 gallon tank, which I don't normally carry. That's going to change. 200 gallons
means I don't have to fuel for months. |
200 gallons? who wants to drive around town carrying 1,600 pounds of fuel? i would rather pay a bit more for fuel than drive around with 4 drums of
fuel in my car
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coloradoboardheads
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mtgoat666
Agree with your comments on pricing...Facts are a struggle for some when they disagree with preconceived opinions.
Interesting to me...I have been reading some of these guys posts on Baja for years (in the background). Lots of great "factual" information on Baja.
Then these comments.
[Edited on 2-24-2012 by coloradoboardheads]
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