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[*] posted on 4-19-2012 at 11:38 AM
Baja Car Registration


Bought a new car for my son last August and imported it and paid for all the fees.

On his way to school this morning he got pulled over and was given a ticket because his registration had expired. Apparently all Baja car registrations expire on December 31 of each year. I was assuming that it was not due until August. Now on top of the registration fee, 1400 pesos, we must pay the 300p for the ticket. No problemo. There is no excuse for not knowing the law.

The one thing that upsets me more than anything are the cars driven on the road with California plates that have expired many years ago and those that continue to drive without a license plate. How do these people get away with this? Mordida?

If this was Mexico City or for that matter anywhere in Southern Mexico the police would immediately impound your car and you would have pay not only for the registration and the ticket but also for the tow and impound fees.
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[*] posted on 4-19-2012 at 12:20 PM


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There is no excuse for not knowing the law.


Does anybody really know the laws in Mexico? :lol:



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How do these people get away with this? Mordida?


That's about it. It's still a small town for a lot of these people and the local police know many of them by sight, as well as what they can afford on an occasional basis. They're cash-cows for the police. They can't give much at any one time, but they make up for that by being dependable for repeat business.
The ANAPROMEX days are over.
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[*] posted on 4-19-2012 at 12:32 PM


Your right Dennis. After the next election and all of the govt. agencies have new department heads the "New Laws" will be enforced. You need to hire an attorney full time to keep up with what has changed and how it affects you.
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[*] posted on 4-19-2012 at 12:43 PM


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Your right Dennis. After the next election and all of the govt. agencies have new department heads the "New Laws" will be enforced. You need to hire an attorney full time to keep up with what has changed and how it affects you.


That just might be the larger problem, Dan. Who's going to see to it that the attorneys keep up with the changes? It's scarey to think that the clients will force and pay for their reeducation as they need it.
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[*] posted on 4-19-2012 at 12:52 PM


I have Onappafa on 2 of my rigs - older of course, but still - 91 Ford F150 and a 86 Ford Diesel F250. Never a problem with them. 25 pesos a month - I pay by the year. And 100 pesos credential each for my husband and I.

And I have Baja Sur plates on 2 of my rigs. Always a problem with them on top of having to renew every year - and the year on the rigs here seems to end in March.

And then of course there is the rig with the California plates that cost a fortune when the mood strikes the Constitucion PD.

Would like to sell some of the rigs, but with 2 places here and a fruit tree farm and mules, seems like we use all of them.

Just saying . . .
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[*] posted on 4-19-2012 at 12:59 PM


whatsa rig?
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[*] posted on 4-19-2012 at 01:00 PM


Old pickups.
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[*] posted on 4-19-2012 at 01:07 PM


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I have Onappafa on 2 of my rigs -


I thought that was the southern version of ANAPROMEX....the registration program to assist the needy when importation is out of the financial question.
Up here, all one had to pay was around 500 P's....for life. The program was so abused....Mercedes' and BMW's being registered into it....that it was recently abolished and the director was said to be in the slammer.
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[*] posted on 4-19-2012 at 01:20 PM


I never knew what it was with Anapromex, but there were people from LaPaz south who had it - and it seems they always had problems.

I have had Onapafa on the '91 Ford for 3 + years and there are Onapafa offices in each area around me: Mulege, Loreto, Constitucion.

And lots of cars and trucks with the permit stuck to the windows.

It is about 1100 pesos to register with Onapafa, 100 pesos for the credential and 300 pesos a year - for the 1st year - here in Constitucion and then 300 pesos a year and 100 pesos for the credential.

Must take the vehicle registration and those mini photos - 2 of them with you to apply.
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[*] posted on 4-19-2012 at 01:42 PM


Dennis I believe there were Anapromex offices in BCS as well.
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[*] posted on 4-19-2012 at 02:20 PM


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Dennis I believe there were Anapromex offices in BCS as well.


Probably so, Ralph. I think I recall someone, or something saying the director was imprisoned down there.
Anyway....I think they're history, but ONAPPAFA sounds similar.
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[*] posted on 4-19-2012 at 02:22 PM


Jail the jefe, rename the office and hire a new jefe.

Actually, I have seen where this program helped some people. too bad it was abused.
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[*] posted on 4-19-2012 at 02:24 PM


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Jail the jefe, rename the office and hire a new jefe.

Actually, I have seen where this program helped some people. too bad it was abused.


Here's some ONAPPAFA info. Look for the links:

http://yucalandia.wordpress.com/2012/04/08/onappafa-an-alter...
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[*] posted on 4-19-2012 at 02:29 PM


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Actually, I have seen where this program helped some people. too bad it was abused.


It helped a lot of people, I'm sure. Those who objected loudest were probably the car dealers, used and new, who had to import their inventory.
Also, I can imagine a lot of money going through the system and may have corrupted some who had access to it.
Who knows?
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[*] posted on 4-19-2012 at 04:56 PM


Just came back from the state offices and got bent over again-----On top of what I paid they also research your vehicle and you for not paying any infractions. 120p.

Maybe next year there will be a new item for them to charge. Tires not inflated to the proper poundage or terrible paint job. :?:
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[*] posted on 4-19-2012 at 05:18 PM


Trust me, on the mainland the PFP* and even the SSP know ALL the laws and the vehicle could have license plates from Iowa dated 1931 but as long as the Temporary Import Permit was current and the vehicle displays a windshield SHCP/SAT hologram, the car is legal and not citeable. State motor vehicle law in both Baja California and Baja California Sur state that extraneous motor vehicles must display license plates with current extraneous license plate registration tags. Extraneous motor vehicles visiting from the mainland that have current and valid TIP and hologram are exempt from this law.

*Policia Federal Preventiva

Large cities enforce this law, as do several towns, and the PFP. La Mordida is common especially around Navidad, Dia de Balentino, Y Semana Santa, when it's time to buy la novia un regalito para la casa chica.




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[*] posted on 4-20-2012 at 07:18 AM


Thanks for the info. David. Like I said, I need a full time attorney to bring me up to date on the laws.
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[*] posted on 4-21-2012 at 08:26 AM


Muchas Gracias A

Commandante Joaquin Baez, of the Petlatlan Guerrero office of the SSP who was kind enough to sit in the shade of a parota tree one day, drag out his big black book and dig through it answering innumerable questions. I got to read the answers and ver los codigos!

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