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juanroberts
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The San Felipe submarine
In the seventies, when driving into San Felipe, there used to be only two gas stations, one near the current rotunda that has two, the one on the
Southeast corner being on the the original gas stations. The other one was on the same road closer to the ocean, just after you dropped the hill on
the right side (opposite side of mercado Palillo) just before the drug store and curio shops. It was in this area just before the curios shops that
there was what looked like a small 1-2 person submarine (not sure it was functional or just for show). Anyone remember it or the story behind it?
Maybe someone has a pic?
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David K
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Yes... and there was the Pemex station on the left (NW) corner at the end of Hwy. 5, called the 'La Puerta' (I think)... 3 all together, two on the
right and the one on the left where the pavement ended. I remember a mini sub... just barely!
Edit: It was the EL PUERTO Pemex station.
[Edited on 5-21-2012 by David K]
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David K
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I think it was the first to go when they built up the main (N-S) street with curio shops. Only the one that is still there, next to the traffic circle
remains from the original 3 of 1966-ish. After the chubasco that wiped out the town in '67, the main N-S street was paved.
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juanroberts
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Thanks David. As a kid I would see the sub as we were driving in to town and my imagination would take it far away.
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David K
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Yah, I remember... I will keep poking around to find out anything I can about it.
Here is a bird's-eye-view map from the 1970 Baja Guide by Cliff Cross:
[Edited on 5-21-2012 by David K]
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David K
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Close...
Here is a photo from the 1960's looking east, to the end of the pavement in town... the mini-sub was on the right...
Photo from the San Felipe History section on Gene Kira's MexFish.com
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David K
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Approx. the same place today:
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vgabndo
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DK, sorry for the highjack. From what I see here, you might be interested in a neat Google Street View based site: www.whatwasthere.com You could do Oceanside.
As a local historian I can upload historic images and with some moderate success overlay them on a view from SV.
Here's an example. click on street view, and then use the slider to vary the fade.
http://www.whatwasthere.com/browse.aspx#!/ll/41.314134,-122....
edit for:
Unless someone knows how to fix that link, just open what's there navigate to Mt. Shasta California and click on the 20.
I return you now to your submarines.....
[Edited on 5-21-2012 by vgabndo]
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
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Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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David K
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Here you go: Vagabundo's Link
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vgabndo
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Thanks, for a spelling czar, you only missed my handle by two extra letters. 
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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willardguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Here is a photo from the 1960's looking east, to the end of the pavement in town... the mini-sub was on the right...
Photo from the San Felipe History section on Gene Kira's MexFish.com |
great stuff as usual david, oh if only
we could go back in time
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vgabndo
Thanks, for a spelling czar, you only missed my handle by two extra letters. |
Oh, I thought your handle was an abbreviation... I just spelled it out! My appologies Perry!
Intersting link, but on my computer it only showed a few buildings from the past... unless that is all there was?
Shasta looks like a nice place!
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This is my first post. I have been trying to find out more info on this submarine for years and this is the first mention I have ever seen of it. My
family started going to San Felipe in 1955 (five years before I was born) and I spent a lot of time in Baja California growing up in the 60's. My Dad
was an avid fisherman and over the years we became very close with a Mexican fishing family in San Felipe who originally came over from mainland
Mexico in a dugout boat made from a solid log.
Anyway, back to the submarine. I was fascinated by it as a kid (I guess I still am) and somewhere I have of picture of myself sitting on it when I was
5 or 6 years old. It was common knowledge at the time among the locals that the submarine was one-man Japanese sub. I also clearly remember the
Japanese writing inside the sub.
We were also told that the submarine was moved to San Felipe from Ensenada. I wondered as a kid, and still wonder, whether this was a WWII relic. If
it was "captured" or beached near Ensenada it makes me wonder whether it might have been trying to make it's way north to San Diego harbor. This is
purely speculation on my part and may not be a war relic at all.
At various times over the years I have researched WWII Japanese mini subs and could never find a similar design mentioned. It is definitely NOT like
the midget 2-man subs used at Pearl Harbor and seems to be smaller than those.
Growing up I remember the sub was sheathed in aluminum or Stainless Steel with a bright finish. The last time I saw it was in the late 70's where it
was being used as a decoration in front of one of the local restaurants and had been brush painted tan or green with what appeared to be latex house
paint.
If anyone has any other info I would love to hear it!!
Thanks!
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Welcome to BajaNomad, Saxman. Great first post. Keep 'em commin'.
"YOU CAN'T LITTER ALUMINUM"
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David K
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Yes, thank you saxman and welcome to Nomad! I hope you find that photo (and any others of old days in Baja to share with us! I will help you with the
procedure to post photos here, if you need it, as it seems to cause some difficulties for some. I also can post photos for Nomads who email them to
me.
The San Felipe I remember had no paved streets other than Hwy. 5 coming to an end by the beach (just a block past that sub). Arnold of Arnold's Del
Mar Café was the main guy in town, and the Riviera Hotel was called 'Augie's Riviera' back then... near the dirt airstrip! 
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saxman
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Thanks for the warm welcome. I definitely have lots of photos of Baja in the 50s and 60's and lots of stories to share.
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David K
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Saxman, I sent you a U2U (Private Nomad Message)... to access them, click the blue link in the top right corner of the Nomad page.
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TMW
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From a friend in San Felipe.
Finally remembered to ask the water truck driver at Petes camp about the sub. His aunt was Lugardita Angulo. She owned where the Taco Factory/ Baja
Mar is now.
Sub was owned by a family of fishermen from Ensenada, family name Negitivos.
Was at most a two man sub. Used to hunt for sardines. He believes it was home built. Operated only for a few years in early 60's.
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David K
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Thanks Tom... I never heard back from saxman...
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David K
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A related thread by willardguy on 6-27-12: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=60960
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