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[*] posted on 8-26-2012 at 08:20 PM
When the aquifer is dry, there may be hope!


Although their dreams are "feed everyone" big, their pilot project seems to show promise. I can think of no place in Alta CA where property costs wouldn't be prohibitive, but in Baja? What an exciting concept for a community coop.

http://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/2011/02/18/seawater-greenhouses...




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[*] posted on 8-27-2012 at 07:58 AM


I only wish there was an effective way to keep the seawater loop free of barnacles and other growing (and clogging) sea life. I made a solar still on a Mexican beach and it worked great for awhile. The enclosure would keep pests out, meaning low-cost organic produce!



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[*] posted on 8-27-2012 at 08:16 AM
Wishing and Hoping


This sounds very exciting. I live in hope that good things will happen for our Earth.
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[*] posted on 8-27-2012 at 09:11 AM


It sure sounds interesting, hope it advances.



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[*] posted on 8-27-2012 at 10:35 AM


[Edited on 8-27-2012 by redmesa]
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[*] posted on 8-27-2012 at 11:55 AM


Two ears and the tail Don Jorge...I've known that clip since it was contemporary and I believe every scream of it. Parts of humanity have clearly not evolved (or acculturated) at the same rate as the cutting edge of the 21st. century. Much of Africa qualifies for this failure to make the grade. In slightly better condition to make a rational decision are the citizens of the USA, where only 15% are intellectually confident that the cosmos is more than 5600 years old, and the majority believe in talking snakes!

In the end either the rational will have to give up and let the ignorant starve, or we will sacrifice our own chances of survival by trying to bring the delusional along with us on the bus we invented. Science tells me that we will continue to let them die, and that the civility with which we treat their carcasses will deteriorate into a fight over which is best to eat.

It all seems confusing and out of control, but it is really just natural selection at work.

If you notice, we are already seeing media that didn't really exist not long ago. Some cultures were reduced to eating bugs a long time ago. The rest of us will probably need to acquire a taste for insects by the next generation.




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[*] posted on 8-27-2012 at 12:12 PM


Or, we learn how to reproduce with "c-ckroaches" ... some think they will be around long after we® are gone ... something to do with Molting :biggrin::biggrin:



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[*] posted on 8-27-2012 at 01:04 PM


Much of California was a desert before it was irrigated and now much of it is going back to desert for lack of water rights. Deserts have fertile soil.

http://earthsky.org/human-world/how-do-deserts-become-fertil...
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[*] posted on 8-27-2012 at 01:10 PM


Soulpatch I think you have this wired. The amount of compost able materials that are just thrown away is too wasteful for the future. There are lots of ways to amend that rich volcanic soil in the desert and make it bloom.

Check-out the Google Earth view of the "bloom" at the end of the output pipe from the co-op at Bahia Asuncion. My guess is that those nutrients making the sea bloom, are the same ones I pay big dollars for labeled Fish Emulsion 5-1-1. Maybe even better 'cause of all the lobster shell!

What a pretty picture, a vegetable greenhouse co-op, working in concert with the fishing co-op. Suenos!




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