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wilderone
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Rancho Santa Ines for sale? What's up with that?
Santa Ines has always been one of those places you could count on for a camping spot, a cold beer or coffee coming and going. I hope if there are any
changes with a new owner, they would be minor - maybe fix up the rooms, add some showers. Does anyone have information about the ownership and why
they're selliing?
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thebajarunner
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Bill Lawrence at Rancho Santa Marta showed me some info 10 years ago about them trying to sell the entire place.
Lots of acreage,
but not much revenue potential.
It would be hard to justify any significant price on any grounds other than sentimental.
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desertcpl
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we used to camp there and always had dinner and/or breakfast, simple but very good
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
Santa Ines has always been one of those places you could count on for a camping spot, a cold beer or coffee coming and going. I hope if there are any
changes with a new owner, they would be minor - maybe fix up the rooms, add some showers. Does anyone have information about the ownership and why
they're selliing? |
it has been offered for sale for many years. your post made me curious, so I googled it and see someone started a new sales effort last month. here
is what they are asking: Price: 3,000,000 USD (Built area: 16,666.66 USD / m2) (Land / Lot area: 1.23 USD / m2)
they will never get $3M USD (hard to imagine how that place could generate sufficient revenue to justify $3M. but may get $300K USD.
it could be a nice place for an eco-tourism or dude ranch type operation, but seems challenging to make that happen.
roadside motel operation would never justify near a $3M price. what was sales price of the desert inn in catavina? a couple $100K USD is my upper
guess.
is the airstrip even usable anymore?
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David K
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From what I heard: Fred Hampe and a lawyer in Ensenada co-owned it after long time Santa Ynez owner Josefina died. I was told that they had sold it to
Don Briggs (nursery owner in Vista, CA).
Oscar and Matilda continued to be managers.
Marv and Aletha Patchen were one of the many Americans who had a lot and cabin on the ranch land. Marv (who wrote two books and magazine articles
about his Baja adventures) is the one who confirmed to me that the ranch spelling is SANTA YNEZ despite the maps that spell it INES... or the gringos
who spell it many ways!
Baja Nomad member 'steekers' was working on a book about the history of Santa Ynez and met with Fred Hampe at his Ramona home... that was a few years
ago.
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thebajarunner
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Ah - I have it
The Rodriguez boys bought the inn as a first step toward turning all of Santa Ynez into a huge tomato farm.
They will pipe in water from their main ranch and >>>>VOILA >>>>
the largest farm in Baja.
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David K
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Dick, you need a 'Baja fix'!
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thebajarunner
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Sorry David
I could not resist....
will call you later to order 3 books
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desertcpl
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DK
did you get PayPal going for your new book
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Am I correct in understanding the owners are getting more than 150 pesos per night to park an RV there? Out in the field?
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by desertcpl
DK
did you get PayPal going for your new book |
yes... I posted that on the thread about the book. See our web
page http://oldmissions.com
thank you.
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thebajarunner
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WHy would anyone camp there to begin with??
| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
Am I correct in understanding the owners are getting more than 150 pesos per night to park an RV there? Out in the field? |
David,
I have said it many times, and will continue to say it,
the most glorious camping in all of Baja is off on the sideroads north of the actual town of Catavina,
and it is all free, and the settings are magnifico!!!
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desertcpl
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I think the state should buy it, make into a destination for the Catavina area,,, nice RV park, motel, restaurant, tours of the area, horseback
riding, jeep excursions
kinda like a theme kinda thing, as every one knows that have been thru this area,, there is nothing like it in Baja
okay okay,, I know its getting close to happy hour
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DavidE
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We camped between the two arroyos and to the west of the brecha. A huge thunderstorm was pelting us with hail (In late July), and both arroyos filled
with around eight feet of yellow brown water. We waited a day, forded the south arroyo that still had a foot of water or so in the bottom and drove
right on by Rcho Sta Inez trying to get to Rcho Chapala for gasoline and water. I generally like wilderness camping myself but curiosity drove me to
ask the question about camping prices there. My first experience with Cholla was at the campsite above.
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
... My first experience with Cholla was at the campsite above. |
BEFORE THIS ONE???
Some of the flora tries to hitch a ride! Stay away from the cholla...also known as 'jumping cactus'.
Neal Johns uses his years of desert expertise to render aid to David Eidell, the victim.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by desertcpl
I think the state should buy it, make into a destination for the Catavina area,,, nice RV park, motel, restaurant, tours of the area, horseback
riding, jeep excursions
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any development would ruin the area. rustic, limited operation is fine, preserves the desert solitude
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monoloco
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I'm sure Muñoz will be showing up with the title any day.
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thebajarunner
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He will wait
| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
I'm sure Muñoz will be showing up with the title any day.
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As soon as someone builds a really nice place there and gets it well established he will show up with his armed posse and claim it.
No sense claiming unimproved ground, and he dare not challenge the Rodriguez gang.
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desertcpl
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by desertcpl
I think the state should buy it, make into a destination for the Catavina area,,, nice RV park, motel, restaurant, tours of the area, horseback
riding, jeep excursions
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any development would ruin the area. rustic, limited operation is fine, preserves the desert solitude |
okay I feel better now I got Happy Hour over with
boy was that a long day
Goat 'did you have your happy hour yet,, relax none of this will ever happen in our life time
[Edited on 9-15-2012 by desertcpl]
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David K
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Someone will ask Matilda to use her stove to cook some turtle stew and like magic the federales will show up. It's happened before!
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