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EnsenadaDr
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Going Vegan....
Vegan is the new craze hitting the world by storm. The ideas sound promising. No fat, no cholesterol. Which means eliminating most meat, fish,
chicken, etc. But there are some dangerous ideas with going vegan. One of these is to eat 2000-3000 calories a day. For most of the aging
generation, eating that amount of calories without vigorous exercise would cause weight gain. Another mantra: Eat 30 bananas a day. For patients
with kidney problems, this would cause serious problems. For Diabetics, it would be enough to send you to the hospital.
Yes, certainly, eating salads, and cutting down on animal fats is a good thing. But most vegans need to take some serious classes in biochemistry.
What happens if you overload the body with carbohydrates and calories? If the carbs and calories are not metabolized and burned off, they will
convert inside your body to the word most dreaded by vegans: FAT. So, instead of lumping everyone in one category, each person needs to use their
scale and glucose meter, if diabetic. If your insulin needs go up with your diet, or weight increases, then changes must be made. Yes certainly a
salad in place of a carb-laden meal is a good thing, or eating one or two pieces of fruit in place of a greasy omelette and stack of pancakes with
butter and syrup would be wise. An early morning walk or exercise that challenges the individual's cardiovascular system will help build collateral
circulation. Exercise is extremely beneficial, and if you have joint or arthritic problems, keep moving any way you can, and lift small weights to
increase muscle strength and bone density (2.5 to 5 lbs). As Benjamin Franklin said, "Do all things in moderation, including moderation."
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SFandH
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There are no calorie requirements associated with veganism. The only dietary rule is that you only eat plants and food products made from plants. No
animals or animal products, including dairy, zero, zilch, nada. That includes leather/fur clothing, leather furniture, etc.
The idea is to extend what we call human rights to all animals. Therefore don't kill and eat them. There are other behaviors that vegans avoid or want
stopped, but eating animals is the main one.
Eating 30 bananas a day, like you said, is a very stupid thing to do.
[Edited on 9-22-2012 by SFandH]
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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I love to read so-called "compelling" articles about what the human body "must have". Most articles are linked to promotions for massive doses of
everything from mega vitamins to weird fungi.
(You buy something and use it according to label directions and it does nothing) This is what you're going to hear from the fanatics...
Didn't take enough
Have to take it longer
What! You can't take it in powder form, it has to be liquid
Yuk the stuff you took is artificial, you have to get the real stuff from the ranch in Mozambique.
If they don't pick the berries when they're fully ripe it's next to useless.
Don't listen to stupid people it has to be kept (a) In the refrigerator (b) freezer (c) in the cupboard (d) only in it's original container (d)
they're all nuts, it has to be kept wrapped in the leaves of the plant
You cannot prepare it with a machine mixer it destroys the molecules, use bamboo ideally
Extract of Krabofabbum has to be distilled only on nights of the full moon in autumn. No wonder it didn't work for you.
Early hominids had access to Feebum Rastofranitz in Africa. They gorged on it. That's why the human body cries out for Feebum Rastorfanitz, and
everyone is sick these days. 30 day supply $129.95 + shipping and handling.
It has to be taken with the juice of 6 lemons.
Didn't they tell you about the chant you have to use?
Now for some serious information. Many so-called natural remedies sold in Mexico are anything but natural. One such "natural" supplement contains the
prescription medication Voltaren, a steriod, and a prescription muscle relaxer. The USA FDA just banned its importation into the USA and pressured
Mexico to treat it as an SSA class IV medication. I "trust" natural herbs, but I realize that many of them do not get along with many types of
prescription medications. Grapefruit and grapefruit juice is strictly contraindicated with many types of prescription medications sold in the USA.
Unfortunately many HMO doctors are rushed these days and scribble out an Rx without discussing it with a patient. This leaves only a pharmacist as the
sole "safety net" to inform a person a medication may have side effects and drug interactions.
Mexican MD's are not yet clued into the fact that many people from north of the border swallow enormous amounts of vitamins, minerals and supplements.
Therefore it seldom dawns on them to breach the subject when prescribing a medication.
"I take lots and lots of vitamin C. I guarantee you, that when I catch a cold, it stands little chance of developing scurvy"
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bajaguy
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If humans were ment to be vegans, they would have a digestive system like bovines and not have Canine/Cuspid teeth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tviyAIS9c_U
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mes1952
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Actually the vegan movement has been going on for several years...and the new movement is paleo.
As a strict vegetarian for 20+ years, I've observed many times that many time both vegans and vegetarians substitute high calorie foods such as breads
and sugars for a more balanced diet and consequently they are overweight. It's shocking to me to see someone who says they are one of the above and
they are overweight.
Calories are calories and if you eat the right balance of calories regardless of your diet you will be healthy. And I've had NO problem eating both
vegan and vegetarian meal shere in Mexico...you just need to be more creative. Since Mexican food is so diverse there are endless ways to eat a
non-meat/no flesh diet.
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SFandH
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Not just in Mexico, anywhere. Go into a US supermarket and take a good look at the produce section, they're huge and beautiful. The colors, shapes,
sizes, and of course the flavors.
Then go to the meat section and look at the dead animal parts, quite gross actually, especially in Mexico.
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EnsenadaDr
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Great feedback, love the comments, maybe some low fat, vegetable Mexican recipes could be shared?
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DENNIS
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This may be the most non-Baja topic I've ever seen here in the land of lard cooked fish tacos.
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SFandH
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Great feedback, love the comments, maybe some low fat, vegetable Mexican recipes could be shared? |
Sabritas with Tecate Light!! My favorite Mexican vegan snack. 
[Edited on 9-22-2012 by SFandH]
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ncampion
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Nothing better than a good steak........and a Lipitor chaser.
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bajaguy
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Beef Tip Fajitas
This is a hoot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3qHZ-vxoVo
(OK, it has tortillas and fajitas - Baja related)
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SFandH
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
This may be the most non-Baja topic I've ever seen here in the land of lard cooked fish tacos. |
That's true, she started it in the off-topic section too. Being a vegan, I'm interested in sharing what I know about it.
I'm all for moving it to off-topic.
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Ateo
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I prefer 70 bananas per day.
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DENNIS
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Can you deep fry a banana? Are they good with cheese sauce?
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willardguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo
I prefer 70 bananas per day. |
thats alot of daiquiris, but count me in!
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EnsenadaDr
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Lard fried tacos...
Why don't we just let Americans continue to go out in Baja everyday and eat huevos, refried beans all cooked in Manteca and then wonder why the
incidence of heart disease and stroke is so prevalent in Mexico. Diabetes is #1 in Mexico as well. This subject is very pertinent to Americans and
others living in Mexico. Prevention is more important than the treatment after the fact. | Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
This may be the most non-Baja topic I've ever seen here in the land of lard cooked fish tacos. |
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Why don't we just let Americans continue to go out in Baja everyday and eat huevos, refried beans all cooked in Manteca and then wonder why the
incidence of heart disease and stroke is so prevalent in Mexico. Diabetes is #1 in Mexico as well. This subject is very pertinent to Americans and
others living in Mexico. Prevention is more important than the treatment after the fact. | Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
This may be the most non-Baja topic I've ever seen here in the land of lard cooked fish tacos. |
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Diabetes is also a big problem in Hawaii........is it diet or heredity???
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Platanos Machos Fritos And Gravy
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Can you deep fry a banana? Are they good with cheese sauce? |
Fry the macho bananas in lard until they're a nice golden brown. Whip up some gravy with lots of bacon bits just like you would with grits. Pour it
all over the banana slices.
Handy accessories...
Sea salt
Pepper
Onion salt
kechup
A-1 Sauce
Defibrillator
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EnsenadaDr
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As far as the Hawaiians go, their diet is very similar to the Mexicans. They eat alot of rice and beans, and alot of fat. I like foods as well that
aren't good for you, and they do taste good. But we can try everyday to find alternative ways of eating good in Mexico. There is, as S and F wrote,
a huge produce section in most supermarkets, and you can make beans without adding bacon fat and manteca, which are animal proteins. We are in Mexico
to have fun, and eat and enjoy ourselves, but we all want to live to enjoy it.
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EnsenadaDr
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I say if you can post about San Diego Chargers Games in On Topic, then tips about eating good in Mexico can be posted here as well. Yes I did start
off with my topic in Off Topic, but it certainly can be applied to eating in Mexico as well. And Dennis, why are you of all people, making fun of me
here? You should be the last one.
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