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Baja Secret Agent question
Hola amigos! Here's a question for you retired CIA guys ...
Let's say secret agent (SA) #1 agrees to meet SA #2 at a designated spot (let's say the Ensenada Costco parking lot) at an approximate time (noon-ish)
on some future date.
Let's also assume that neither SA has the means to communicate electronically (or otherwise) with the other SA on the designated meeting day.
Question: what is "Plan B" if one or both SA's discover that on the designated day that they are unable to fullfill 'Plan A' (they are prevented from
being at the designated time and place for any number of reasons). Again, they have no means of communication with the other SA.
In reality, this is just 2 guys planning to meet to caravan to La Paz - but what to do if one or the other doesn't show at the planned meeting time
and place?
OK, I know there are some (one or two?) brilliant people on this board - I'll be really disappointed if I don't get some brilliant answers to my
question!
Muchas gracias, Rob(erto)
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DENNIS
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The answer to your riddle is plain and obvious. Plan your rendevous at a bar/restaurant so if one is a no-show, the other parties like there's no
tomorrow and the no-show pre-agrees to pay for everything.
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unbob
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Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
The answer to your riddle is plain and obvious. Plan your rendevous at a bar/restaurant so if one is a no-show, the other parties like there's no
tomorrow and the no-show pre-agrees to pay for everything. | Sorry, no cigar for you! Like the Blues Bros,
we're on a mission - no time to party - gotta get down the road!
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Quote: | Originally posted by unbob
Hola amigos! Here's a question for you retired CIA guys ...
Let's say secret agent (SA) #1 agrees to meet SA #2 at a designated spot (let's say the Ensenada Costco parking lot) at an approximate time (noon-ish)
on some future date.
Let's also assume that neither SA has the means to communicate electronically (or otherwise) with the other SA on the designated meeting day.
Question: what is "Plan B" if one or both SA's discover that on the designated day that they are unable to fullfill 'Plan A' (they are prevented from
being at the designated time and place for any number of reasons). Again, they have no means of communication with the other SA.
In reality, this is just 2 guys planning to meet to caravan to La Paz - but what to do if one or the other doesn't show at the planned meeting time
and place?
OK, I know there are some (one or two?) brilliant people on this board - I'll be really disappointed if I don't get some brilliant answers to my
question!
Muchas gracias, Rob(erto) |
buy mobile phones!
leave messages to each other on bathroom wall at costco!
register for a free email account!
are you 2 secret agents the only 2 people left on earth that do not own mobile phones or know how to send/receive email at an internet cafe?
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There is absolutely no excuse (except extreme cheapness) not to be able to stay in touch in Baja while on the road.
Go inside, get a prepaid TelCel or Movistar cell phone for $25, activate it and put your number on the men's room wall.
I spend about 150 pesos per month for my prepaid Movistar (going on three years now). It is well worth the investment to keep in touch on the road,
make reservations, call the cute girl with her car for sale, etc.
Constant yakkers will probably pay a lot more.
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Great minds think alike
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No phones and no lectures from me, sorry...
If Meeting A does not work out, then pre arrange meeting B somewhere down the road. Does the other party have a recorder on the phone at home? TelMex
phone cards are inexpensive. So are internet cafes, there must be 10,000 in Baja California. Hookup on this forum U2U.
There is absolutely no excuse to be "cut off" while on the road. Sure there are some dead spots, but c'mon there are dead spots in California too.
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Lee
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Easy.
Have a plan B and C in place prior to the meeting.
If Plan A is a no-show within 1/2, go to Plan B, meet somewhere else at a designated time. Same for Plan C if B doesn't work.
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F*ck it.
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Simple.......
Meet at a internet cafe. If one cant make it for whatever reason(s)....email. EVERYONE has internet such as repair shops , hospitals and such. You can
also borrow someone's text phone :-)
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rts551
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Just use your US phones until you can establish contact and exchange numbers on a telcel or Movistar pay as you go phone.
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The problem with your hypothetical is that it contains an unrealistic assumption -- that the secret agents have no means to communicate electronically
in Ensenada. Cell phones that support calling, texting and email are ubiquitous SOB, especially in Ensenada. Service is easily set up through
domestic carriers (I have Mexico Connect service with AT&T; all you need to do with most carriers is call to activate international roaming), and
will work on phones, tablets and laptops. The cell signal at the Ensenada Costco is excellent. Wifi is also available at numerous locations in
Ensenada, including a number of coffee shops (Starbucks, Sanborns, etc.)
However, let's assume for the sake of argument that both secret agents are Luddites who don't own cell phones or computers with wireless or wifi
capability. Frankly, if you are posting on this forum, that is unlikely. But in that event, Plan B might be to pick as your meeting spot one of
Ensenada's many internet cafes (yellow pages listing here: http://papelweb.seccionamarilla.com/doc/seccionamarilla-dire...), where one can log on to an email account and send and receive email. If SA #1
shows up at the meeting spot and SA#2 hasn't arrived by the alloted time, SA#1 logs on to his email at the internet cafe to check for a message.
Another Plan B might be for both parties to purchase pre-paid Telnor international calling cards (available at convenience stores, grocery stores,
pharmacies, etc., all over the place in Ensenada). If SA#2 doesn't show up, SA#2 can either call SA#2 stateside directly from a Telnor pay phone or
call a designated stateside third party whom the parties have agreed will be informed by either of them if they aren't showing up.
If none of that works, I suggest that you just mosey on down the road and forget about it. Maybe you'll just run in to each other later on.
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OK look for the paper plate scotch taped to one of the uprights on the army inspection booths between maneadero and santo tomas? Take lunch at the
entroque to erendira.
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Meeting place
No secret agent that I know of (and I know a few) would ever meet at COSTCO........they would meet at Anthony's........
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
No secret agent that I know of (and I know a few) would ever meet at COSTCO........they would meet at Anthony's........ |
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..obviously you -are- a SA,,and your plan 'B' was to pose this 'hypothetical' question on here
...smart move!-much less traceable than using internet or phone!!
[Edited on 10-27-2012 by micah202]
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by micah202
..obviously you -are- a SA,,and your plan 'B' was to pose this hypothetical question on here
...smart move!-much less traceable than using internet or phone!!
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What??? You mean to say we've been duped by SA secret code?
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unbob
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Quote: | Originally posted by DanO
The problem with your hypothetical is that it contains an unrealistic assumption -- that the secret agents have no means to communicate electronically
in Ensenada ... However, let's assume for the sake of argument that both secret agents are Luddites who don't own cell phones or computers with
wireless or wifi capability. Frankly, if you are posting on this forum, that is unlikely. | No, we're not
Luddites. I'm just presupposing a worst-case scenario and wondering what "professionals" do in such a case. I don't have an SA background but
obviously they are trained to deal with such occurrences. Yeah, this is a bit over the top for a couple of Baja bums but an interesting question
nonetheless. Gracias for your feedback.
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just go without the laggard....
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What Woody said.....
Plan B.
To many things can go wrong just meet up at the destination.
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I've had two 'missed connections' episodes I wish hadn't happened. I'm not sure how I'd have prevented either. I wound up spending a miserable night
between three campfires in the Sierra Juarez when we sped too far ahead on light-less dirt bikes, and the chase truck broke down. The other involved
my agreement to a pal to keep an eye on his wife and truck from SD to BCS. Our plan was 'we won't lose sight of each other', she WOULD NOT pass me.
That happened at Mexican secondary, and I saw her next at San Nicolas'!
Pre-cell phone. We should have had a back-up plan. She thought she was behind me trying to catch up! Fortunately she has Baja in her blood and had
a fine drive.
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