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DENNIS
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TECATE COPS.....AT IT AGAIN
This was just put up on the Punta Banda Bulletin board:
"My daughter and two male friends came down to visit me this past weekend. On their way home yesterday they took the Tecate route. At abt 7PM they
reached the last block before turning up the hill to the border wait line, when they were pulled over by a police car w/ two cops inside. They were
ordered to drive a couple blocks away and were charged w/ speeding at 2x the speed limit [they were not] and 2 other bogus infractions. They could be
let go for a cash payment of USD$250. They opted to not go to the police station and negotiated the amount down to $90. They paid and went on their
way.
For what its worth.
Paul d'H
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rhintransit
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best advice, if you can do it, is to burst into tears and when they say, it's a very big fine and quote a price, say, I don't think I have enough
money to get back to X. when they ask about the ATM route, say your purse/wallet was stolen. don't offer money. just play dumb and have an answer
for everything. (it's amazing how fluent the cops can become if you don't even attempt Spanglish)
reality\'s never been of much use out here...
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The new Constitucion.
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Hold on is some one insinuating that there is a corrupt police officer in Mexico-say it aint so.
in otin ihuan in tonalin nican tzonquica-Aztec saying for \"here ends the roads and the days\"
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Udo
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I, as well as DK, have crossed through the Tecate area at different times, and days. And on the way to the border CBP crossing, we have to drive by
the Tecate police station.
Neither one os us has even been pulled over in the city, and as often as we cross the border, the odds should be stacked against us.
Where do these crooked cops come from?
It's only a matter of 300 feet between the police station and the left turn to the CBP checkpoint.
What is wrong with just saying that you'll just drive by the police station (1/2 block away) to pay the fine...if you are guilty. If not guilty, you
can discuss it in front of a judge.
Udo
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Almost everything but the main boulevards in Tecate used to have twenty kilometer per hour speed limits. Wonder what it is now? Nothing worse than a
sanctimonious crooked cop 
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Udo
I, as well as DK, have crossed through the Tecate area at different times, and days. And on the way to the border CBP crossing, we have to drive by
the Tecate police station.
Neither one os us has even been pulled over in the city, and as often as we cross the border, the odds should be stacked against us.
Where do these crooked cops come from?
It's only a matter of 300 feet between the police station and the left turn to the CBP checkpoint.
What is wrong with just saying that you'll just drive by the police station (1/2 block away) to pay the fine...if you are guilty. If not guilty, you
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What are you saying...............that the reported incident didnt occur/never occurs in Tecate??? 
The reason they had them drive a few blocks away was probably to get AWAY from the police station to conduct the squeeze.
Christmas is coming, folks. Get used to it. Let the little lady carry all your money on her person and have a token amount in the wallet. Then, point
out that "this is all I have".
It's laughable that people who make 1-2 trips to Mexico per year think that mordida doesnt exist. Those of us who live down here know the truth.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Christmas is coming, folks. Get used to it. Let the little lady carry all your money on her person and have a token amount in the wallet. Then, point
out that "this is all I have".
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Make money on your computer. Lots of it. 
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David K
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Udo is correct and I am going to Tecate again tomorrow (after I vote) with Max about the translation of our book into Spanish. [EDIT: Tecate trip
today postponed]
Hook, to me Udo isn't saying it didn't happen... he said why let it happen...
Tell everyone that is going to drive into Baja to INSIST on seeing the judge... traffic fines are tiny and less than what the cops are asking you to
pay. Rather than give in, if you don't want to pay anyone (and you are not guilty), then just wait it out... say no, and just keep smiling as if you
know it is a scam.
I was stopped by a m/c cop when I made a (safe) turn during the confusion of the new border location, to get to the correct street, what was it, 7
years ago? He wanted money but was going through the "you broke the law" fear talk with me... I just smiled and patiently waited him out with logic,
and he sent me on my way... and it wasn't very long as he wanted easier prey, like the people in Dennis' story
[Edited on 11-6-2012 by David K]
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Udo
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DK is correct in his judgement.
Just be aware of your surroundings, and know where the police station is...literally a rock's throw from the border fence.
Udo
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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More "Used To Be's"...
The Tecate cops were always strict as hell. Run a stop sign, eighty-official-dollar multa pay at the commandancia, minus 40% for paying within 10 days
of the infraccion. One of the boys at Duran got caught drunken driving. Two days in the bote, the car got towed and he paid the juez 150 dollars.
Wanted to see a urined-off cop? Try cutting in line when there is a backup at the border.
Once I parked at the State Tourism Office on the south side of the main park. Took a blue disabled spot. Truck had valid California disabled license
plates AND a valid blue parking placard hanging from the mirror. The staff of the tourism office marveled as a tow truck showed up and started to
hitch to the vehicle. The transito was standing and giving orders.
The tourism official yelled at the cop and the tow truck driver. The cop's face turned red, and the driver hauled butt. The tourism office helped me
lodge a formal complaint. I received in the mail a formal letter of apology from the chief of police, with a dozen stamps and seals on it. I kept it
on the dashboard. One time I parked outrageously illegal at "El Rey de Tamales" tamaleria. A motorcycle cop stopped and got off his bike. He took one
look through the windshield and decided to motor on. I decided maybe the letter was authentic. BTW, the street was deserted so favor no rants.
Tecate had a reputation as a strict town all over northern Mexico. Very uptight aduaneros as well as city cops. I don't know what it is like 12 years
later.
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monoloco
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They wouldn't prey on gringos if they didn't play along so willingly. Seriously, grow a pair and demand to go to the comandancia. Everybody who pays a
bribe makes a judgement that it is more expedient to participate in an illegal act than to take a few extra minutes and do what's right.
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thebajarunner
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Guilty of DPM
"Driving a Porsche in Mexico" a very uncommon but deadly infraction.
Got a ticket in La Gloria years ago on a Sunday morn,
went to the station where the old dude mopping out the back room stood his swab against the counter, put on his Capitan hat, and wrote me an elaborate
receipt for an $8 fine.
All legal and well done,
still not sure that DPM is against the law, however,....
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
They wouldn't prey on gringos if they didn't play along so willingly. Seriously, grow a pair and demand to go to the comandancia. Everybody who pays a
bribe makes a judgement that it is more expedient to participate in an illegal act than to take a few extra minutes and do what's right.
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Armed robbery has a way of clouding one's resolve to be in charge of a situation.
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Willie Sutton
"Why do you rob banks Willie?"
"Cause that's where the money is"
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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
They wouldn't prey on gringos if they didn't play along so willingly. Seriously, grow a pair and demand to go to the comandancia. Everybody who pays a
bribe makes a judgement that it is more expedient to participate in an illegal act than to take a few extra minutes and do what's right.
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Armed robbery has a way of clouding one's resolve to be in charge of a situation. |
How is it armed robbery?
Your post indicated that they, "opted not to go to the station". Nowhere did it say they had guns held on them.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
How is it armed robbery? Your post indicated that they, "opted not to go to the station". Nowhere did it say they had guns held on them.
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OK.....Armed Extortion. Sure would hate to malign these Peace Officers with inaccuracies.......especially when they're trying so hard to be peaceful.
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I'm not defending the Tecate cops, but why would anyone be shocked that extortion exists when gringos so willingly open their wallets?
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thebajarunner
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Does anyone know if they pay income tax on their mordida/income?
That is how our Feds busted most of the old time mobsters.
(had to add one letter to a word)
[Edited on 11-6-2012 by thebajarunner]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
I'm not defending the Tecate cops, but why would anyone be shocked that extortion exists when gringos so willingly open their wallets?
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Some people don't possess the list of options that other, more worldly individuals have and people react to intimidation differently. The whole
mordida routine is based on fear of the unknown.
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