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Pompano
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Guns & Ammo in Baja
Another reminder about guns and ammo in Mexico. (I decided to put this post into its own thread, rather than clutter up the Manhunt thread.)
For anyone planning a trip to Baja....or Mexico.
Most folks already know that you should not even consider taking weapons or ammo into Mexico. This can't be stated enough...DO NOT DO
IT. Dire events about guns in Mexico have been in the news a lot, plus the current armed-fugitive search creates food for thought.
Many moons ago, I was driving my old camo-painted Suburban down the Baja Highway and was stopped at a regular Army checkpoint.
Whoops!...My bad. I had forgot to thoroughly check the center console for any possible illegal stuff, like ammuniton. The soldier rummaged around in
there and came up holding a couple spent 12 ga. shotgun cartridges. They said that even these empties were a no-no...and I agreed with a lame excuse
that I had somehow overlooked them. I explained that I reload my own ammunition and these hulls should have been left at home. I was forgiven after
some back and forth conversation with the officer in charge. Luckily, we knew some of the same people.
An interested anecdote to that conversation was...The Lt. suggested that I get my Suburban re-painted some other color, as camouflage was supposedly
reserved for the military. 
I am neither a gun nut nor paranoid as the pc news media are chanting today, but do consider myself a responsible gun-owner and respectful hunter,
coming from a long-lived tradition of these values. I have traveled to Baja frequently every year for 40 years. My best advice on this subject of
guns is ...Don't carry guns or ammo to Mexico. If your trip will include hunting, use your outfitter's firearms and ammo. (Sure,
you can go through all the hoops and get the right permits to bring your own gear...but you better have a suitcase full of 100's to deal with that
official who wants your burro. You'll likely lose the gear anyway, plus the dinero.)
And if you have ever had ammo in the vehicle...check and re-check. Now...Painting your rig camo color may or may not be okay! (that was news
to me..) 
Jeeps? I drive Jeeps, too. (It has ducks, not camo) Have yet to own a Toyota, but who knows?
There...now I'll get off this soapbox.
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Ken Cooke
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This is good advice - to check your vehicle for anything that might bring a possible problem with law enforcement before entering Mexico. I know that
valve caps made with used bullet casings are available (here in the U.S.), but would probably be a poor choice on your Baja-driven vehicles.
.45 Caliber Valve caps
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Very well put!! I love the camo on the Suburban, never thought about using dogs as camo.
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W.C.Fields
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Pompano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
This is good advice - to check your vehicle for anything that might bring a possible problem with law enforcement before entering Mexico. I know that
valve caps made with used bullet casings are available (here in the U.S.), but would probably be a poor choice on your Baja-driven vehicles.
.45 Caliber Valve caps
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Right on, Ken,
Same thing as with my truck's keys...I removed this keyring 'fob', a spent .44 Mag cartridge. This kind of stuff just raises some eyebrows and puts
you on the radar. Leave it at home, like I did.
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Ken Cooke
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Your FSJ Wagoneer is very similar to the one my Father (RIP) took us camping in back in the early 80s prior to him purchasing his Motorhome. Good
times with my Father who I miss deeply.
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Pompano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MMc
Very well put!! I love the camo on the Suburban, never thought about using dogs as camo. |
Ah, you noticed those, eh?
I've mentioned those pooches before, but humor knows no bounds and it's worth repeating now:
Canadian Humor...We were in a northern Saskatchewan town on a goose hunt with that Suburban and parked next to a local cafe. We walked out at the
same time as a couple of gals, who looked at those dogs and started to laugh out loud.
"Hey, so you like my retrievers?", said I
"Well, one looks more like a receiver than a retriever!", said one gal.
You gotta love those Canadian gals...
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Pompano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
Your FSJ Wagoneer is very similar to the one my Father (RIP) took us camping in back in the early 80s prior to him purchasing his Motorhome. Good
times with my Father who I miss deeply. |
Great memories in my old Jeep, too, Ken. Mine was a custom-painted Jeep that was bid on and won at a Ducks Unlimited auction.
p.s. All monies raised at these events go to wetland conservation & habitat...to support the ducks, other waterfowl and countless wildlife. Most
hunters belong or donate to this great organization.
Back to guns and ammo in Baja...did not mean to morph this into a thread about Jeeps and such.
[Edited on 2-9-2013 by Pompano]
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The Jeep looks like mine, except where you changed the Cherokee Chief to Ducks Unlimited... Mine was a red 1975.5 Cherokee Chief which was when they
were first sold, too early to legally call it a '76. 401 V-8, Quadra-Trac, Levi Seats... It was great, except it was always in the shop for repairs...
Sold it after two years and got a 77.5 Subaru 4WD wagon, again a '78 model, but too soon to legally call it a '78, lol. I put well over 100,000 miles
with many Baja trips in just two years!
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Bullets
"back in the day" 30 some years ago I/we would bring down 38. for the police and 22 LR for the ranchers and never thought about it...But ,today with
this insane "war on drugs" and "war on terrior" I would sure the hell would not even consider bringing down anymore !! K&T
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Ever since the military and cops lost dozens and dozens of members to gunfights they are a tad touchy about the subject. The guys I talk with are
convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt (true or not) that many gringos make a pile of money importing ammo for sicarios (gunmen). Not a subject I would
care to defend a mistake of not cleaning out my rig.
One sargento told me years ago, "No recomendarlo un pintura de arma de fuego"
("I don't recommend a PHOTO of a firearm!")
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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I too carried a 38 Chiefs Special 30 years ago also took a Shotgun with me in my Plane. Never was searched in the Plane.
Today if you are going to Carry keep a Pistol in an underarm Scabert where it does not show.
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In my book, anyone bringing a gun into Mexico these days is insane.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo
In my book, anyone bringing a gun into Mexico these days is insane. |
Agree!!!! Canada too. (even tho I am Federally licensed to carry in the USA)
Barry
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I've know people who did, and wouldn't go to Mexico (or anywhere) without. It is difficult for some to surrender their 'equalizer' and let the balance
of power shift to the criminal (who never has a problem carrying a gun, no matter what the law says)!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
I've know people who did, and wouldn't go to Mexico (or anywhere) without. It is difficult for some to surrender their 'equalizer' and let the balance
of power shift to the criminal (who never has a problem carrying a gun, no matter what the law says)! |
Did they get on a plane or go to a courtroom
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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The cops and the military are very familiar with underarm and in-the-small-of-the-back holsters. Sicarios use them. With TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS
count on two years in el reclusorio "centro de rehabilitacion". Ever wonder what the INSIDE of the prison near Sta Rosalia is like in JULY?
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
I've know people who did, and wouldn't go to Mexico (or anywhere) without. It is difficult for some to surrender their 'equalizer' and let the balance
of power shift to the criminal (who never has a problem carrying a gun, no matter what the law says)! |
I come across this regularly when I talk to Jeepers about my Baja trips. I *always* tell them not to look for trouble and it won't follow them
around. Lots of people fear a sort of ciminal spillover from Juarez to the entire Baja peninsula.
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A few yrs. back, my brother in law borrowed a truck to
pick up some Mex furniture in Rosarito, asked me to go, he has a rather
Cavalier attitude on crossing the border, not me though.
While getting Ins at one of the drive in places, I thought
why not give the cab a once over, inside was some weed. rolling papers, 22 bullets and this 3 ' sword, I was relieved
I looked, but then I became PI$$ED OFF
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sancho
inside was some weed. rolling papers, 22 bullets and this 3 ' sword, |
And to think some people use that space for tools and other nonsense. 
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My personal detail in Baja
Posing with my bodyguards in Downtown Tijuana
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