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[*] posted on 2-14-2013 at 10:52 AM
Anybody else out there see this? (EDITED @ 10:00 AM)


Posted on Punta Banda Bulletin Board this AM. Looks like everyone is going to have to do a temporary importation on their vehicle, motorcycle, motor home or boat.
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Edit: looks like it does not apply to Baja:

Vehicle Permits: Tourists wishing to travel with their vehicle beyond the border area must obtain a temporary import permit or risk having their vehicles confiscated by Mexican customs officials.

Actualmente las únicas excepciones a los requisitos son para viajes a la Península de Baja California y el estado de Sonora, y solo para vehículos entrando por el puerto de entrada de Nogales.

Currently the only exceptions to the requirements are for travel to Baja California and Sonora, and only for vehicles entering through the Nogales port of entry.

Para adquirir un permiso, uno debe de someter evidencia de ciudadanía, titulo del vehículo, un certificado del registro del vehículo, una licencia de manejo, y una cuota de procesamiento a una sucursal de Banjercito (Banco del Ejercito Mexicano) localizada en la oficina de la Aduana Mexicana en el puerto de entrada o en uno de los Consulados Mexicanos dentro en los Estados Unidos.

To acquire a permit, one must submit evidence of citizenship, title of the vehicle, a vehicle registration certificate, a driver's license, and a processing fee to a branch of Banjercito (Mexican Army Bank) located in the office of Mexican Customs at the port of entry or at one of the Mexican Consulates in the United States.

La ley mexicana también requiere el fijar una fianza en la oficina de Banjercito para garantizar la exportación del carro desde México dentro de un periodo de tiempo determinado al momento de solicitar.

Mexican law also requires the set bail Banjercito office to ensure export the car from Mexico within a time period determined at time of request.

Con este propósito, a los titulares de tarjetas de crédito como American Express, Visa o MasterCard, se les pedirá que proporcionen información de su tarjeta de crédito; otros necesitarán hacer un depósito en efectivo de entre $200.00 y $400.00 dólares estadounidenses, dependiendo de la marca/modelo/año del vehículo.

For this purpose, the holders of credit cards such as American Express, Visa or MasterCard, will be asked to provide information on your credit card, others will need to make a cash deposit of between $ 200.00 and $ 400.00 USD, depending on the brand / model / year of the vehicle.

Para recuperar esta fianza o evitar cargos a su tarjeta de crédito, los viajeros deben ir inmediatamente a cualquier oficina de la Aduana Mexicana antes de salir de M é xico.

To recover this bond or avoid charges to your credit card, travelers must go immediately to any Mexican Customs office before leaving M exico.

A pesar de cualquier aviso oficial o no oficial que diga lo contrario, los permisos de vehículos no se pueden obtener en los puntos de revisión en el interior de México.

Despite any official or unofficial notice to the contrary, vehicle permits can not be obtained at checkpoints in the interior of Mexico.

Los viajeros deberán evitar contacto con individuos que esperen fuera de las oficinas de permisos para vehículos y ofrecen adquirir permisos sin tener que esperar en línea, aunque aparenten ser oficiales gubernamentales.

Travellers should avoid contact with individuals who wait outside vehicle permit offices and offer to acquire permits without having to wait in line, but appear to be government officials.

Ha habido reportes de permisos fraudulentos o falsificados que son usados adyacentes a la oficina de permisos de importación de vehículos en Nuevo Laredo y otras áreas fronterizas.

There have been reports of fraudulent or counterfeit permits are used adjacent to the office of import permits for vehicles in Nuevo Laredo and other border areas.

Si el permiso adecuado no se adquiere antes de ingresar a México y no se puede adquirir en la sucursal de Banjercito que está en el puerto de entrada, no siga hacia el interior del país.

If the proper permit is not acquired before entering Mexico and can not be purchased at Banjercito branch is at the port of entry, do not proceed to the interior.

Viajeros sin el permiso adecuado podrán ser encarcelados, multados y/o su vehículo podrá ser confiscado por los puntos de revisión de migración/aduana.

Travelers without the proper permit may be incarcerated, fined and / or your vehicle may be confiscated by immigration checkpoints / customs.

Para información adicional, contacte la Aduana Mexicana acerca de los permisos de vehículos adecuados.

For additional information, contact Mexican Customs about appropriate vehicle permits.



[Edited on 2-14-2013 by durrelllrobert]

[Edited on 2-14-2013 by durrelllrobert]




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[*] posted on 2-14-2013 at 11:30 AM


Quote:
Originally posted by durrelllrobert
Edit: looks like it does not apply to Baja:







[Edited on 2-14-2013 by durrelllrobert]







Thanks for the edit, we are fortunate that the Mex Govt
considers Baja what it does, sorta of in a different
classification than the other 30 or so states,
the Mainland seems to
have always had regs that are strictly enforced,
tourists cards, vehicle permits
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[*] posted on 2-14-2013 at 11:35 AM


"Currently the only exceptions to the requirements are for travel to Baja California and Sonora, and only for vehicles entering through the Nogales port of entry."

How do you interpret this paragraph, Robert?




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[*] posted on 2-14-2013 at 11:44 AM


How would one go about importing a vehicle that is financed? It doesn't seem possible.
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[*] posted on 2-14-2013 at 11:46 AM


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"Currently the only exceptions to the requirements are for travel to Baja California and Sonora, and only for vehicles entering through the Nogales port of entry."

How do you interpret this paragraph, Robert?




really?? is this before or after happy hour
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[*] posted on 2-14-2013 at 02:15 PM


Only NOGALES, specifically Km 13, AGUA ZARCA can allow the SOLO SONORA car permit. The permit is enforced at the checkpoint to the south exiting the state of Sonora to Sinaloa.

Car permits will be limited to the length of validity of your driver license if it is less than 180 days from expiration. And INM will NOT issue a 180 FMM using an about to expire passport.

The TIP ingredients listed above have not changed in the last 12 months.

But cars with expired USA license tags that do not have a valid TIP are subject to citation in both Baja California states.

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[*] posted on 2-14-2013 at 02:35 PM


From this site:

http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/20916917/890265286/name/INM%20C...

CUSTOMS Q & A

We have 2 cars here with current US license plates. Will they continue to be legal?

Tenemos 2 autos aquí con placas de los EE.UU. al día, continuaran siendo legales?

Continúan siendo legal por el periodo del permiso de importación temporal, si aplica su calidad migratoria a residente temporal o permanente, el vehículo tiene que retornar al extranjero y aplicar una importación definitiva si el vehículo cumple con los requisitos para tal importación.

They are legal as long as your temporary importation permit (180 days) is legal. If you have changed your immigration status to temporary or permanent resident your vehicle must return to its country of origin. You must apply for a definitive importation if your vehicle qualifies.

Will legalizing each vehicle be a requirement if we chose permanent residency?

Sera necesario legalizar mi vehículo si obtengo la residencia permanente?

Si tendrá que hacer una importación definitiva.

Yes, a definitive importation will be in order.

Will we be able to legalize a vehicle that has a lien on it by a US bank?

Podemos legalizar un vehículo en México que tiene una orden de embargo por parte de un banco en los EE.UU.?
De acuerdo a la RCGMCE 4.2.7. Fracción VI párrafo I. No se podrán importar.

NO, according to the following article in the law: RCGMCE 4.2.7. Fraction VI paragraph I.

How will it work to legalize a vehicle that is less than ten years old?

Como se puede importar temporalmente un vehículo cuyo modelo es mas reciente que 10 años.

Para la importación temporal no importa el modelo año del vehículo.

Para la importación definitiva según el TLCAN este año aplica para vehículos originarios usados, provenientes de USA y CANADA que tengan por lo menos 6 años de antigüedad (Contactar A.A.)

For temporary importation the year of the vehicle does not matter. For a permanent importation according to this year’s NAFTA regulations the vehicle must be at least 6 years old (please contact your customs authorities)




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[*] posted on 2-14-2013 at 05:14 PM


Quote:
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"Currently the only exceptions to the requirements are for travel to Baja California and Sonora, and only for vehicles entering through the Nogales port of entry."

How do you interpret this paragraph, Robert?

IMHO, and despite the location of the coma, what it means to say is that if you enter Baja from any POE you are exempt from the import requirement but if you are traveling into Sonora you are only exempt if you enter at the Nogales POE. Why? I have no frigging idea.




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[*] posted on 2-14-2013 at 05:35 PM


its been a number of years,, when I went thru Nogales

it was a lesson in Mordia that I have never experienced

before or since in MX,, this was getting my car permit

I mean I paid every one,, it was off the hook
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Quote:
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Quote:
Originally posted by toneart
"Currently the only exceptions to the requirements are for travel to Baja California and Sonora, and only for vehicles entering through the Nogales port of entry."

How do you interpret this paragraph, Robert?

IMHO, and despite the location of the coma, what it means to say is that if you enter Baja from any POE you are exempt from the import requirement but if you are traveling into Sonora you are only exempt if you enter at the Nogales POE. Why? I have no frigging idea.


Thank you for your answer, Robert. I was wondering why this appeared on the Punta Banda bulletin board and also, why you were posting it.

Now I see your edit, that it doesn't apply to Baja, was added under the first paragraph. It was rather alarming to us all until the paragraph I quoted jumped out.:o

Wow! Mexico is making it more difficult for travelers and residents every day. :( The Mexican Government is doing as much harm to its tourism business as the Cartels.




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[*] posted on 2-14-2013 at 07:30 PM


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How would one go about importing a vehicle that is financed? It doesn't seem possible.


You need permission from lien holder to take vehicle into Messiko. Don't worry they never ask. (unless you don't have it).
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