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aldosalato
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police robbery
First time in 7 years I had a friend visiting being transported to local police office at 2AM while returning from local bar on the Malecon of La Paz.
2,500 Pesos disappeared from his pocket.
Today I went to Ministerio Publico to denounce such corrupted criminals and spoke directly to police chief.
Tomorrow we have to face such policemen and recognize them.
Will post how the story follow up.
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El Jefe
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Thank you Aldo.
I have had three run-ins with corrupt cops in La Paz over the past two years. I don't give in to their extortion for supposed traffic violations, but
I'm sure many do. They seem to have gotten a little fast and loos lately. Tom
No b-tchin\' in the Baja.
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JESSE
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Go after them Aldo, get those bastards fired.
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Bruce R Leech
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Mood: A lot cooler than Mulege
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Be Careful
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Tio Rocky
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It's not that easy
Real careful?.. my common-law Mx wife had a car accident here in Ens?. Clearly the others fault? rear ended at a stop sign?. Arrested him and
impounded his car?.. towed the wife?s car and took her to the hospital?. I was at the hospital within 10 minutes?. She was fine and released in about
thirty minutes?. We then went to get the car and pull it home?. Took about another three hours to get it released?. Drove out to where they park the
cars and within four hours of the accident found the groceries she had just purchased gone?. all her manicuring equipment gone and a two week old
Stereo gone?. yanked right out of the dash?? didn?t even bother cutting the wires?.
Understandably I was %$#@&^# peeed and demanded the items back?. I was told they were removed for security reasons and I could pick them up at the
office? I apologized for going off and drove back to the office?. You guessed it?. they didn?t have the stuff and said it was not their
responsibility?? by this time it was getting late and I told the manager I would return in the morning and if everything was not there I would report
it to the police?
Day 2 thru 7 were much the same with me being told everything was under control and to come back tomorrow to retrieve the stuff?. Around day ten the
wife and I went to the Police department with our tow receipt. The police had inventoried the car contents prior to towing and noted the correct
contents on our receipt? Slam dunk, right?.. wrong?
She filled out the report and we were told we would be contacted?. We left the station?. Stopped to eat?. Stopped to visit her aunt then headed home?
a few blocks from the house we were pulled over by the police and she was asked to get out of the car and I was told to wait?. One of them took her
aside and I could see there were both going at it pretty good?. She got back in the car and was very scared and upset and just said we?ll talk at the
house?. Back at the house she said in no uncertain terms we had to drop the issue and never bring it up again?. She also said that the officer had the
report she had just filled out and tore it up in front of her (we were not given a copy)?
It?s been about three months now and we have had no further contact with anyone? Now I know there will be some out there that will say we should do
this or that but really?. What would be effective?
Tio Rocky
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Tio Rocky
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Moving
I?m planning on moving to La Paz in the next 6 months to a year and was hoping it would be better there?? guess I was wrong?.
Still moving ,,,,, because there is way less TRASH!!!!!
Tio Rocky
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Packoderm
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Maybe the best defense would be to not carry so much cash. I would imagine that when the police see me, they just see a walking turnip - no blood to
squeeze out. I never dress any fancier than the average Mexican factory worker. Also, when they see me driving, they probably see a rolling turnip.
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aldosalato
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FOLLOW UP Nov 10
Today we went to Police department and faced the criminals policemen.
They entered the room one by one.
Two got identified without any doubt.
Their position is that never saw my friend and that nothing irregular was reported that night.
One started to contradict himself while chief of the police started grilling him.
We left and we went back to Ministerio Publico with the names of the people we recognized and the name of the chief of police as witness.
I will be in Mexico City for next 5 days but I will be in touch with my friend and another friend helping on the matter and see how things develops.
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FrankO
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Hey Packoderm.
Sometimes you need that much to do whatever your going to do. It's not like it's that huge of a sum if you've got plans and need it to accomplish your
goals. Thieves are thieves no matter what they wear and shouldn't be tolerated.
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hose A
It is a fact that if you have any dealing with the police you will get robbed at the very least.
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Jeez Hose A, and I thought the Rosarito police were the worst.
The only time I'll go to Ensenada is to get to the other side!
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aldosalato
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Really I am not much worried of consequences.
I have so many people that trust me and befriend me in my barrio that I would kick the ass of these bastards before they even have a chance to
threaten me, my family or my properties.
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Packoderm
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Aldo, it is may uneducated opinion that if you have more money than these crooked police, you have hand.
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aldosalato
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I have more friends than money.
That is more important.
And my beloved Mexican wife kicks asses too!!
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Packoderm
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Please keep us informed, and I wish you the best of luck. The good guy must win every so often.
[Edited on 07/17/2004 by Packoderm]
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Packoderm
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A person can always stash cash about on his person, luggage, or car. Also, I guess I really, really work at keeping expenses down. I have no choice,
but I don't feel that I am really missing out on anything by it. I also carry traveler's checks. They always seem to work in a pinch. I'd say I carry
at least 1/2 of my money in traveler's checks. And, I really can't deny the turnip factor; I look pretty un-rich really.
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by aldosalato
I have more friends than money.
That is more important.
And my beloved Mexican wife kicks asses too!!
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I am in TJ Aldo, but i got your back.
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aldosalato
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update after two weeks
"Los policias ratas" still deny any charge but are very worried and already entered already in a couple of major contradictions.
Now their lawyers are trying to demolish the accusations through technicalities.
They have one lawyer each and even the local police union provided with another lawyer.
I.E. No official translator was present, recognition of policemen was not done according to proper procedures,
They even tried to accuse Ministerio Publico of excess of interrogations and mistreatments........ hahahaha
Two articles appeared on local newspaper as well.
The battle will still be very long but at least the authority is trying to do its work so far.
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jrbaja
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Sounds pretty cool so far Aldo
Are you enjoying it ? I think lessons may be learned from this, no? Keep up the good work!
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synch
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What about contacting the Sindictura?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by synch
What about contacting the Sindictura? |
I believe that department is for issues that only pertain to the
Municipio de Tijuana.
http://www.tijuana.gob.mx/Turismo/TouristGuide/English/pag13...
http://www.sindicatura.gob.mx
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