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comitan
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CFE RAISING RATES
Mexico City. May electricity prices will be 8.4% higher than in April. The Federal Electricity Commision (CFE) explained, the residential sector that
uses the most energy will be charged the High Domestic Consumption rate (DAC) at $3 pesos per kilowatt/hour (Kw/h). The industrial sector rate is at
$0.9959 pesos and $1.7090 during peak hours. In April the kilowatt was more affordable at $0.9188 and $1.6356 pesos respectively.
The methodology that was first used in 2011 incited that in the electricity price agreement for the next 12 months the Ministry of Finance (SHCP)
allowed this increase in high and medium voltage and high consumption user CFE rates.
According to CFE, regular residential rates remain the same and only around 500,000 high consumption and commercial meters will be affected by the
changes. In the country there are 36.7 million clients, of which 88% are residential, 9.93% commercial, and 2.07% agricultural and industrial users,
these latter being the highest energy consuming group.
CFE explained that the spike in charges is due to the decrease of natural gas used for generating electricity caused by lack of crude oil in Pemex
pipelines for which fuel oil was used during the past 18 months. In 2011 fuel oil was priced at $9.74 pesos the liter, in 2012 $8.75 pesos and in 2013
$8.78 pesos. Prices are expected to remain high.
CFE assured that once the natural gas supply to power plants normalizes and fuel oil use is reduced the price of electricity will be reflected in it.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by comitan
CFE assured that once the natural gas supply to power plants normalizes and fuel oil use is reduced the price of electricity will be reflected in it.
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 Mexicans don't believe anything their government says and I doubt this BS will
be any different.
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Well, supposedly Mexico wants to lower the poverty and get rid of hunger. This certainly ain't gonna help. Thanks for sharing, Wiley.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by comitan
Mexico City. May electricity prices will be 8.4% higher than in April. The Federal Electricity Commision (CFE) explained, the residential sector that
uses the most energy will be charged the High Domestic Consumption rate (DAC) at $3 pesos per kilowatt/hour (Kw/h). The industrial
sector rate is at $0.9959 pesos and $1.7090 during peak hours. In April the kilowatt was more affordable at $0.9188 and $1.6356 pesos respectively.
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??? My DAC rate has been 3.07/ kWh for more than 6 months. I guess I'm special and will get to pay 3.28
starting this month.
[Edited on 5-4-2013 by durrelllrobert]
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Ever since the gosh darnned PRI took office, Aduana, INM, SCE, and Petroleos Mexicanos have been having a field day.
It started with PRI de La Madrid, got worse under Salinas de Gotari, and now kissy huggy boy el presidente has turned them loose once again.
LAUGH ON...
One of the folks that I am familiar with in Michoacan is a Delagado Federal de Aduana. He told me in the beginning of April that there is serious
discussions underway in Mexico City to change to status of most of the Baja California peninsula.
1. IVA rate hike 11% to 16%
2. Bonded car permits south of? (perhaps Maneadero) just like the mainland
3. FRONTERA cars to be nationalized in steps. Extra fees.
4. Permanent (FM-3) residents cannot drive cars with extraneous plates
I hope to god this does not happen. But what has happened to immigration and car permits on the mainland "couldn't happen" either, according to self
described experts on Mexico pundits. The laughed, guffawed, came up with 999 reasons why the very thought of what has happened "could not possibly
happen! They can't do it! Don't be stupid!"
Apparently from what Ismael believes, a border zone would still exist, but beyond that, 180-day car permits, holograms, and made in Mexico national
cars for citizens and permanent residents. Only FMM 180-day car permit autos allowed otherwise.
AGAIN, to make this clear, at this point all of the above is in the planning stages in ADUANA.
Now let's hear the guffaws, the ridicule, and mockery. Be sure to sign your name clearly to fun and games...
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
My understanding is that moderate energy users are heavily subsidized and the DAC (High Consumption Domestic) tariff applies to those domestic users
who consume beyond certain KWH limits, which careful energy management can avoid exceeding. Are a lot of folks here being affected by this?
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If your average usage exceeds 500 KWH for three successive periods...six months......you lose the subsidy until usage falls below that point.
500 kwh isn't a lot, but I do manage to stay in the subsidy zone.
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comitan
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I don't think that most of us residential users will be affected, We are domestico 1D - 700 to 1300KWH per 2 months our usage and hasn't changed in
years.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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4. Permanent (FM-3) residents cannot drive cars with extraneous plates
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I keep seeing this statement on the forum and have to laugh.
1. FM3? No such thing any more. I think the new term would be Permanent and I don't know about where eveyone else lives, but here in San Felipe,
There are more autos that have California plates, driven by Mexican's that don't even worry about registering their autos. Also, even if you are
driving an auto from AZ or California, whenever I have been pulled over, I hand them my drivers license and I have never been asked if I am a Mexican
Resident or even if I have a FM2 or FM3.
I would be more concerned about being required to forgo my US drivers license and get a Mexican only DL
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
There are more autos that have California plates, driven by Mexican's that don't even worry about registering their autos. |
The term for these vehicles is "Chocolates."
I've just noticed that ANAPROMEX is back in business.
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[Edited on 5-5-2013 by DENNIS]
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Cortez Blue,
PERMANENTES driving extraneous cars in GUADALAJARA / CHAPALA area, ALL ONE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED of them "didn't believe it either". Neither did over
six hundred vehicle owners in San Miguel de Allende.
Talked to CFE yesterday. Mexico City. Unless you are habitually in DAC residential customers will not be affected neither will small business owners
to around 8K kWh bi-mestral. Only the big boys.
The PRI can screw with people who have no recourse (gringos) but they damned well know the average Mexican ain't rich and they can sure as hell vote
PAN or PRD in he next sexenio.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
The PRI can screw with people who have no recourse (gringos) |
Gee, I've always had the feeling gringos were
accorded a lot of slack. Can a green-carded Mexican in the U.S., continue to drive a car with Mexican plates (I have no idea)?
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Not if they use a US address
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
The term for these vehicles is "Chocolates."
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Hey Dennis, good to see you are doing well.
Part of my assimilation was getting my Licencia de Conducir Mexicano and using a 'chocolate' as a beater. License plates seem to be optional in the
Free Zone and car insurance is assigned to the driver, not the car. If I run over three locals I just pull out my Seguros Atlas card and ask them to
speak to the abogado.
My March/April bill from La Comision showed no rate change to the gringo level of consumption.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by greengoes
Hey Dennis, good to see you are doing well.
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Gracias. Life is my new hobby. 
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One of the guys that worked on our ranch now and then, had Sonora plates on his almost brandy new ford..He had a US drivers licence and address...
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Baja DL
Getting a Baja (Norte) drivers license was a fun experience. Written test (in english), eye test, blood type, driving test. License issued on the
spot........WAY better than DMV experiences in the states
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On the mainland, if you are caught driving a Mexican car with US driver license: 1,100 pesos official multa.
In the USA, if a Mexican driver receives a citation for ANYTHING and does not satisfy the court, he and or the car is prohibited entry into the United
States at all POE.
In Bajas Californias, it is the law, by both states to allow a foreign placard vehicle be driven ONLY IN COMPLIANCE WITH INM LAW. Illegal immigration
status, car is illegal. TAGS on foreign plates MUST BE KEPT CURRENT or car is legally eligible to be cited by a transito including the PFP.
In California, it is the officer's DISCRETION to adjudicate whether or not a motor vehicle and or driver has lost the status of visitor or temporary
visit. He can cite the driver for not being properly licensed, as well as the car for not being properly registered in the USA in that state.
It is illegal ANYWHERE to operate a motor vehicle with a conflicting driver license.
The foregoing is not guesswork.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
It is illegal ANYWHERE to operate a motor vehicle with a conflicting driver license.
The foregoing is not guesswork. |
But it's not accurate. It's legal almost everywhere to drive a rental car on a foreign license. Some small countries do require even renters to get a
temporary local license, but these are exceptions, and most places won't allow visitors to get a local license.
Arizona, and many other states, allow non-residents (from another state or country) to drive a locally-registered car on their foreign (or out of
state) licenses, for a limited time (which can be up to 7 months every year, so a snowbird can drive their AZ car on their WA or Yukon license every
year).
The mis-match of license and car registration is perfectly legal during that time. Progressive Insurance (and a few others) will even insure a US
vehicle where the owner has a non-US license.
Anyway, to get back to the CFE rates. As it only applies to the DAC rates, it won't affect many residential users. The DAC consumption limits varies
by area, 2500 kWh/mo (12 month average) in San Felipe so you'd really have to have excessive consumption to qualify.
Rob
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domestico 1D ?
| Quote: | Originally posted by comitan
I don't think that most of us residential users will be affected, We are domestico 1D - 700 to 1300KWH per 2 months our usage and hasn't changed in
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.. and 700 - 1300 Kwh? must be something unique to La Paz. Like DENNIS said once we exceed 500Kwh for 6 billing cycles we are on the DAC at 3.07 peso
/ Kwh up here in Baja Norte. What is the billing rate for domestic 1D?
[Edited on 5-9-2013 by durrelllrobert]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
One of the guys that worked on our ranch now and then, had Sonora plates on his almost brandy new ford..He had a US drivers licence and address...
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...but if he got stopped by the CHP? Goodbye almost brandy new ford. Would be OK if he also had MX DL but not with US DL and address.
[Edited on 5-9-2013 by durrelllrobert]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
In Bajas Californias, it is the law, by both states to allow a foreign placard vehicle be driven ONLY IN COMPLIANCE WITH INM LAW. Illegal immigration
status, car is illegal. TAGS on foreign plates MUST BE KEPT CURRENT or car is legally eligible to be cited by a transito including the PFP.
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Well, the transito and the PFP, along with the federal police must be asleep......there are about a zillion cars in Baja with expired US plates, not
to mention those without ANY plates, and nobody is doing anything about them.
[Edited on 5-9-2013 by bajaguy]
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