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sargentodiaz
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The Golden State
Showing Tarnish Around the Edges
My wife and I [and out little Chihuahua] took a quick trip to Tijuana. I couldn't help but seeing the signs of decay in my home state. Just little
things. But, lots of them to show how things aren't going all that well.
I guess the main thing was the growth of weeds and trash on the hillsides next to the freeway. Instead of the lush growth of ice plant, the ground
was mostly bare with scraggly wild plants growing here and there. And when we stopped to eat or fuel up, things weren't as clean and bright as before.
And then there was the faux Spanish architecxture.
Finally, there were the Left Lane Road Swine [hogs is too nice to call them]. No matter the number of lanes or the speed limit, they're going to
drive in the fast lane without EVER looking in their rear view mirror or moving over for faster traffic.
And, I guess the things that struck me most was the thick smog cloaking everything – even in San Diego.
No wonder I saw so many rental trucks filled with personal belongings heading out of state on the way back. I would never live there again either.
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mtgoat666
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I love California! Great place! Incredible state!
everywhere has problems, nowhere is perfect,... but CA comes pretty dang close to perfect!
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
I love California! Great place! Incredible state!
everywhere has problems, nowhere is perfect,... but CA comes pretty dang close to perfect! |
Maybe you will be happy with a train to nowhere and paying more taxes to support a dysfunctional government
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LancairDriver
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Really? Kind of depends on which side of the trough your on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWoOaYi8vbA
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
I love California! Great place! Incredible state!
everywhere has problems, nowhere is perfect,... but CA comes pretty dang close to perfect! |
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DavidE
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Please treat this as an honest question...
What is YOUR favorite USA State and how is it better or worse than California or Mexico?
Most mainland Mexicanos react in horror when I show them images of barren, rugged Bajas Californias. Juancho, last week wrote back and said "Nice
beaches but where are the palms?"
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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DocRey
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Ever see the landscape along the freeways in downtown L.A.? There isn't any. Weeds & trash. Keeps the convicts busy. Sad.
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luv2fish
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DocRey
Ever see the landscape along the freeways in downtown L.A.? There isn't any. Weeds & trash. Keeps the convicts busy. Sad. |
Ever been to La Utah ?? Very beautiful conservative state, 5% flat tax and oh yeah a portion SR 15 just south of SR 80 has a 80 M.P.H
speed limit.
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chuckie
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A lot of people live in South Dakota, you can tell by the licence plates.....Colorado was nice till it got Californicated....Utah-New Mexico.....In
the mountains of either, If I was going to move back....(I aint)
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Bubba
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
I love California! Great place! Incredible state!
everywhere has problems, nowhere is perfect,... but CA comes pretty dang close to perfect! |
Ditto, especially the Central Coast.
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805gregg
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The roads could use some work, but the rest is ok. I just spent 14 days going through Cal, Navada, Utah, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Wash, Oregon and
back to Ca, I prefer Ca
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chuckie
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Must be something they put in the water....
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Marc
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Worth a thousand words.
[Edited on 8-8-2013 by Marc]
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bajadogs
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For every rental truck that leaves, a couple show up. The human population of California never will decrease until something really bad happens to the
planet.
But, I support your efforts to encourage people to leave or not come here even though we are the gateway to Baja. So you went from Vegas to Tijuana...
and California was the ugly part? How far away from the freeway did you get? We keep the off-ramp strip malls ugly so passers-by just buy crap and
just keep passing by.
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J.P.
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I have lived in some beautiful places , but the Gold Country was Great. For me California was a good place to work but in retirement cant afford to
live there.
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Barry A.
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Utah is my fav------------Cedar City, or close by. Several Family memebers already have moved there. I love the entire state------absolutely the
most physically beautiful, bar none.
The Eastern Sierra of CA is hard to beat, tho, but I wish that Navada would annex the area.
I am a 3rd generation Californio, but am about ready to give up on CA forever.
Barry
[Edited on 8-8-2013 by Barry A.]
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paranewbi
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Walked the river-mouth yesterday a few blocks from my house that splits the US / Mexico border here in Imperial Beach. Made a comment to my wife that
those half built barren hills over in Playa Tijuana would be filled with million dollar houses and irrigated manicured landscape if here in the
US...ala La Jolla.
How we forget that the scraggly landscape along our blighted cities is actually more indicative of the natural terra firma that was here before we
'beautified' this California. Sans the trash, we might all be living in a place as beautiful as that we desire to visit...The Baja.
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danaeb
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How was Tijuana?
Experience enables you to recognize a mistake every time you repeat it.
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ncampion
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajadogs
For every rental truck that leaves, a couple show up. The human population of California never will decrease until something really bad happens to the
planet.
But, I support your efforts to encourage people to leave or not come here even though we are the gateway to Baja. So you went from Vegas to Tijuana...
and California was the ugly part? How far away from the freeway did you get? We keep the off-ramp strip malls ugly so passers-by just buy crap and
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Actually more people are leaving than coming (except for the illegal immigrants). The only real population growth is in the bay area - go figure.
Actual population growth last year was 0.8%
"Much of the growth statewide was due to new births. More people continue to leave the Golden State than come in from other parts of the United
States, with a net loss of around 66,000 last year.
But foreign immigrants coming into California outpaced that, with a net gain of about 84,000, according to the finance report."
Reference:
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/CA-population-grows-to-37...
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oxxo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ncampion
But foreign immigrants coming into California outpaced that, with a net gain of about 84,000, according to the finance report."
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I could be wrong, but I think the whole United States was built on foreign immigration! My ancestors were illegal foreign immigrants and so were my
wife's and they never became US citizens either, (and our fresh off the boat ancestors never bothered to learn to speak English) they and their
progeny just stayed here and built the US into the industrial/military power that it is today.
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bajaguy
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California......or???
Interesting reading.........
Best 25 places to retire:
http://money.cnn.com/gallery/retirement/2012/10/16/best-plac...
Best states for retirement:
http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/06/retirement/best-states/index...
10 most tax friendly states for retirement:
http://www.kiplinger.com/slideshow/retirement/T006-S001-10-m...
How does your state rank:
http://www.bankrate.com/finance/retirement/best-places-retir...
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