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Russ
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I hate netters
So this guy drags the bottom all night then comes in and anchors right in front of me. Now I have to listen to that damn one lung generator all
day
[Edited on 11-13-2013 by Russ]
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bajagrouper
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But I bet you love the shrimp........
I hear the whales song
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wessongroup
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Sorry to see and hear
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chuckie
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You could always move....???
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DJL
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Keep an Eye on your boat - every time the Mainland Shrimpers are off the East Cape ... Pangas and Motors go missing .
D.~
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Russ
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bajagrouper , Not so much any more.
chuckie, I could if you'd buy my house or 3/4+ acre waterfront lot
Edit:
No Shame
http://www.misionloreto.com/the-ideal-lot-on-gorgeous-shell-...
[Edited on 11-13-2013 by Russ]
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By catch
I was reading that on average 10 lbs of bycatch for 1 lb of shrimp....I as on one of those old shrimp boats about 20 years ago and saw all kinds of
waste (turtle,shark) and we where under way and not even fishing (sic) or dragging the killing net.....seeing it firsthand Wakes you up to the destruction and raping of the ocean....And NO I don't eat shrimp for
that reason....If you saw it in person I'm sure every one would protest and also stop eating shrimp.....really a drag !!!!
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Bubba
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Sucks for sure.
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DENNIS
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Years back, there were two Kelp Cutters moored off shore at night. During the day they would be mowing Kelp way too short in some local fishermen's
opinion.
One morning, all that was left of one of the cutters was that part below the waterline. The rest was smoldering.
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captkw
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Sweet "Karma"
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chuckie
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Its Mexico...They are Mexicans earning a living...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
I was reading that on average 10 lbs of bycatch for 1 lb of shrimp |
Awhile back some suggested only Panga caught
shrimp were the only type to buy, logic tells one
that the panga shrimping would be far cleaner than
the big boats, but apparently panga shrimping is
not totally imune to the bycatch, don't have the exact
figures, probably only a fraction of consumers think
about the way fish are taken, last time I bought
shrimp was off a panga on the beach in San Felipe,
the shrimp were still wiggling
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
Its Mexico...They are Mexicans earning a living... |
That's what the cartels say too.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by captkw
I was reading that on average 10 lbs of bycatch for 1 lb of shrimp....I saw all kinds of waste (turtle,shark) ...seeing it firsthand Wakes you up to
the destruction and raping of the ocean....And NO I don't eat shrimp for that reason....If you saw it in person I'm sure every one would protest and
also stop eating shrimp.....really a drag !!!! |
I've not eaten shrimp for 30 years, my second trip to Baja when I learned about the ecology of the oceans on a half-day trip with Eco Mundo.
My husband is a member of the local fishing cooperativa and is out on the water alot. He routinely comes home with curious stories of maimed and
injured turtles he encounters, sometimes dead. He attributes this to the by-catch practices of the netters.
The cooperativa fishermen fish by the law. They can't afford not to do so as Sagarpa, the enforcing agency, is very strict and swift with fines so
stringent that a fisherman can be broken financially if he flaunts the law. As to why these netters from the mainland are allowed to come here and do
what they do... I could speculate but won't.
What a shameful practice!
"Raise your words, not your voice. It's rain that grows flowers, not thunder." ~Rumi
"It's the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." ~ Aristotle
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Lee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by chuckie
Its Mexico...They are Mexicans earning a living... |
That's what Uncle Tom responded when I mentioned pangas at Pedrito circling the water, just off the beach, after putting out nets while drumming their
boats. In this case, I said the pangas had been reported to the Harbor Master in Cabo and the activity was illegal. Don't think that meant
anything to Tom though he said ''oh.''
Net shrimping might not be illegal but a boat that close in could easily sink in the night. Common military training for the amphibious groups.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mulegena
What a shameful practice! |
What a shameful government that allows this!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
Net shrimping might not be illegal but a boat that close in could easily sink in the night. Common military training for the amphibious groups.
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"Fast 'n Furious" should have sent down some shore-fired Torpedoes.
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chuckie
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Show us how its done Dennis....talks cheap...
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Lee
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Lee
Net shrimping might not be illegal but a boat that close in could easily sink in the night. Common military training for the amphibious groups.
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"Fast 'n Furious" should have sent down some shore-fired Torpedoes. |
Simple is better. Guys asleep won't know they're sinking until water reaches their bunks. Cordless hand drill, 1/2'' bit, would do the job.
Torpedoes are always cool, though. Or, RPG. Just saying.
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Russ
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What we need is a few dolphin with limpit mines so we can sink them in deep water.
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