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Monte Xanic wines at San Diego CostCo
Note sure where this belongs, but FYI: you can get Monte Xanic wines at Costco if you want a taste of Guadalupe Valley without the border wait.
I've enjoyed Monte Xanic for years. I seem to recall that even 20 years ago, this was the price people were willing to pay for a bottle in Mexico
City, so those of you in Ensenada or near a CostCo - enjoy!
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There's also an endcap display of various Baja wines at the Whole Foods in Hillcrest (on University and 7th). The prices are similar to what you pay
in Mexican wine stores like G. Salinas and La Contra.
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The vinter at Monte Xanic told me that due to Mexican government fees/taxes, you could buy Monte Xanic wines cheaper at COSTCO than in Baja.....would
be interesting to do a head-to-head comparison.
| Quote: | Originally posted by dasubergeek
There's also an endcap display of various Baja wines at the Whole Foods in Hillcrest (on University and 7th). The prices are similar to what you pay
in Mexican wine stores like G. Salinas and La Contra. |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
The vinter at Monte Xanic told me that due to Mexican government fees/taxes, you could buy Monte Xanic wines cheaper at COSTCO than in Baja.....would
be interesting to do a head-to-head comparison. |
That's completely nuts!!!
Actually, I refuse to believe that it's fees/taxes that prices Baja wines so high? Who is the government trying to protect, internally? The beer
producers? How is it possible that decent wines from South America, Spain and France come into Mexico and are sold so reasonable? Why are internally
produced beers, rums, brandies and vodkas so reasonable?
Part of the high prices of Mexican wine has to be how much the vintners mark it up. I cant see any other reason.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
The vinter at Monte Xanic told me that due to Mexican government fees/taxes, you could buy Monte Xanic wines cheaper at COSTCO than in Baja.....would
be interesting to do a head-to-head comparison. |
That's completely nuts!!!
Actually, I refuse to believe that it's fees/taxes that prices Baja wines so high? Who is the government trying to protect, internally? The beer
producers? How is it possible that decent wines from South America, Spain and France come into Mexico and are sold so reasonable? Why are internally
produced beers, rums, brandies and vodkas so reasonable?
Part of the high prices of Mexican wine has to be how much the vintners mark it up. I cant see any other reason. |
this was from an earlier discussion about mexican tax on tequila. no question they take a lions share. maybe the same with wine?
http://www.mexicomatters.net/businessmexico/11_tequilabusine...
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I believe the "cut" is about 40%........you should hang out in the Guadalupe Valley and talk to some vinters...Miguel Fuentes (Fuentes Winery), Joe
Malagon (Malagon Winery), David Bibayoff (Bibayoff Winery), Manuel Ortiz (Madera 5 Winery) or maybe Manuel Delgado (MD Winery). I was told it is
cheaper to export.
Also spend some time and explore the wine museum in the Guadalupe Valley where I learned that the King of Spain found the Baja wines so much better
than the Spanish wines, he ordered all of the vineyards in Baja destroyed
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
The vinter at Monte Xanic told me that due to Mexican government fees/taxes, you could buy Monte Xanic wines cheaper at COSTCO than in Baja.....would
be interesting to do a head-to-head comparison. |
That's completely nuts!!!
Actually, I refuse to believe that it's fees/taxes that prices Baja wines so high? Who is the government trying to protect, internally? The beer
producers? How is it possible that decent wines from South America, Spain and France come into Mexico and are sold so reasonable? Why are internally
produced beers, rums, brandies and vodkas so reasonable?
Part of the high prices of Mexican wine has to be how much the vintners mark it up. I cant see any other reason. |
[Edited on 12-13-2013 by bajaguy]
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How could it be cheaper to export? They dont pay that 40% if the wine is sold for export? That's crazy! If that were the case, why not just export it
all??
Well, other than the fact that the wine isn't very good, of course.............the world wine market is a tough crowd.
Mexico is big on protectionism for established industries. But this seems counterproductive for their wine industry and it's not that well established
an industry.
I wonder how many bottles the Mexican wine industry is left holding at the end of the "year". They cant be selling everything they produce, can they?
Who is buying it?
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And that, sir, is your opinion
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Well, other than the fact that the wine isn't very good, of course...... |
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I have access to probably any wine that the Guadalupe vineyards are shipping to retailers in Mexico. And I noticed a dungload of them at my closest
Costco. Tell me what to buy and tell me how much it costs and I'll give some a try. Shall we set an upper limit of 250 pesos for a bottle? Or does it
require spending more than that to get a decent bottle of Mexican vino rojo?
If you're going to suggest a wine that is only sold at the winery, then I think it's rather immaterial that you feel Baja wines can compete on the
world market. They dont market those to the world market.
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i have found the Temecula wines to be as good and better than the baja wines. But they often cost more too at least at the wineries when we used to
tour the Temecula loop annually.
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Wineries are often the most expensive places to buy wine. They have to protect their retailers.
Outside of the large retailers like Wine Exchange, Total Wine or Costco, one can often find great deals on wines at local drug stores like Long's and
Rite-Aid ESPECIALLY IN AREAS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO WINE GROWING REGIONS. I found some great deals at drug stores near Paso Robles and Santa Maria.
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Baja Wines
Here are just a few
Bodegas Marilena wins two more International Competition Medals with 2011 Malaguena and 2011 Maxixe......a local Ensenada.......
Bodegas Marilena is proud to announce that it has been awarded ONE GOLD and TWO SILVER MEDALS at the single largest International Wine Competition in
the World held in Vienna, Austria. www.bodegasmarilena.com
Take your pick:
http://www.mdvinos.com.mx/eng/index.php
Las Nubes
Casa de Piedra
Vina Cava
Madera 5
Adobe Guadalupe
Monte Xanic
http://vinedosmalagon.com/Vinedos-Malagon-Home.html
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
I have access to probably any wine that the Guadalupe vineyards are shipping to retailers in Mexico. And I noticed a dungload of them at my closest
Costco. Tell me what to buy and tell me how much it costs and I'll give some a try. Shall we set an upper limit of 250 pesos for a bottle? Or does it
require spending more than that to get a decent bottle of Mexican vino rojo?
If you're going to suggest a wine that is only sold at the winery, then I think it's rather immaterial that you feel Baja wines can compete on the
world market. They dont market those to the world market. |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Whale-ista
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The URL you used was to a web page where the image was at on FB, it was not a direct URL address for the image itself. FYI. I updated the URL.
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Come on, be a little more specific on individual wines instead of just a list of wineries. Are you saying all the wines by these wineries are good?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaNomad
| Quote: | Originally posted by Whale-ista
(Still don't know why my image links won't work...is it a Facebook problem?)
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The URL you used was to a web page where the image was at on FB, it was not a direct URL address for the image itself. FYI. I updated the URL.
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thank you! I'll read the link more carefully next time.
As for the wine: Can anyone comment on this particular red? Is it worth trying at that price or shall I pass?
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Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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I have given you some places to start your research. Since tastes are different, I can't pick the wines I think you would like. My tastes may be, and
probably are different than yours.
Each of the wineries I listed have several varieties, Select the varieties that you think you might like and do your own tasting/research.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Come on, be a little more specific on individual wines instead of just a list of wineries. Are you saying all the wines by these wineries are good?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
I have given you some places to start your research. Since tastes are different, I can't pick the wines I think you would like. My tastes may be, and
probably are different than yours. |
Are you familiar with the one being sold at Costco? I'm more familiar with Monte Xanic whites than their reds.
I hope to be in Ensenada in the coming weeks. It's been many years since I was in the valley. Thank you for the recommendations on vineyards to visit.
Closer to home, I understand the wine bar at San Miguel is very good.
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Whale.........I am a red drinker and Monte Xanic has several, but they also have a few great white (play on words)!!!:
http://www.montexanic.com.mx/quienesSomosEnglish.php
One winery I forgot to add to the list is Lechuza Vineyards:
http://vinoslechuza.com/
Bodegas Marilena is a private label, mainly being sold to retail outlets, however there is an outlet in San Antonio de las Minas....I can get you the
name.
MD winery is located in Uripan, south of Ensenada and Maneadero, at KM 41
All of the others and the museum are in the Guadalupe Valley:
http://www.bajabound.com/destinations/bajawinecountry/wineri...
http://www.bajabound.com/destinations/bajawinecountry/winemu...
http://www.bajabound.com/events/winecountrymap.php
| Quote: | Originally posted by Whale-ista
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
I have given you some places to start your research. Since tastes are different, I can't pick the wines I think you would like. My tastes may be, and
probably are different than yours. |
Are you familiar with the one being sold at Costco? I'm more familiar with Monte Xanic whites than their reds.
I hope to be in Ensenada in the coming weeks. It's been many years since I was in the valley. Thank you for the recommendations on vineyards to visit.
Closer to home, I understand the wine bar at San Miguel is very good.
[Edited on 12-14-2013 by Whale-ista] |
[Edited on 12-14-2013 by bajaguy]
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I have no idea...but-in general-I'll drink to that!!!!
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Ok, thanks for the winery recommendations. I'll chose a few and give them a try. Anyone growing syrah or zins? What white varietals seem to do well
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