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[*] posted on 12-15-2013 at 09:49 AM
Oil wells in Sea of Cortez?


Mexico is set to relax laws governing oil exploration etc. by foreign oil companies. There are oil deposits under the Sea of Cortez. Any thoughts?
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[*] posted on 12-15-2013 at 10:41 AM
Good News ?


An aid to the Local Economy ?

And, don't the platforms encourage Marine Life ?

I suppose they won't do it, but the drilling rigs can be made attractive like they were (are ?) in Long Beach Harbor.
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[*] posted on 12-15-2013 at 10:57 AM


Pemex explored Baja in the 1950's, drilled some test wells, and found nothing... mostly near Scammon's Lagoon. I have a feeling that the Sea of Cortez ocean floor is too new for petroleum???



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[*] posted on 12-15-2013 at 11:01 AM
I doubt if there are sufficent oil reserves in the SoC to warrent the investment for exploration.


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Mexico is set to relax laws governing oil exploration etc. by foreign oil companies. There are oil deposits under the Sea of Cortez. Any thoughts?


Here's one link for what's going on:
Jakarta Globe
Sorry, that link doesn't work. Try this one instead:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-12/mexico-lower-house-passes-oil-overhaul-to-break-state-monopoly.html

[Edited on 12-15-2013 by durrelllrobert]

[Edited on 12-15-2013 by durrelllrobert]




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[*] posted on 12-15-2013 at 11:18 AM
Here's what the US Government is doing


Ryan-Murray budget deal includes new deepwater oil exploration in Gulf of Mexico
Washington : DC : USA | Dec 12, 2013 at 8:44 AM PST By JOHNTHOMAS DIDYMUS

The bipartisan budget deal announced Tuesday night includes a provision for implementation of the 2012 US-Mexico Transboundary Hydrocarbons Agreement that would open up new areas of the western Gulf of Mexico for deepwater oil and gas exploration.
The agreement concluded in February 2012 by then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton anticipated the expiration of a moratorium on oil and gas exploration in the Western Gap area of the Gulf of Mexico in 2013 and establishes a framework for oil and gas activity in the area approved jointly by the US and Mexican governments.
The moratorium covered a 1.5 million-acre area of the western Gulf. According to the Interior Department's Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, the area contains an estimated 172 million barrels of oil and 304 billion cubic feet of natural gas.
An important aspect of the US-Mexico agreement, as part of the Ryan-Murray budget deal, is the inclusion of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act financial reporting standards which oil and gas industry operators had wanted waived.
The demand for waiver of the reporting standards led to a dispute that delayed finalizing agreement.
Bloomberg reports that the American Petroleum Institute (API) was forced to drop its demand for waiver of the Dodd-Frank standards in October to allow conclusion of the agreement.
However, API is backing a US House of Representatives legislation that would approve the US-Mexico Transboundary Hydrocarbon Agreement but waive the Dodd-Frank reporting standards which require that oil and gas companies file reports on payments related to "resource extraction" activity made to the US and foreign governments.
The agreement comes at a time that US crude production has reached a new high due to introduction of new technological solutions such as hydraulic fracturing which have opened up new reserves of oil and gas in shale formations




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[*] posted on 12-15-2013 at 01:48 PM


Pemex has explored a lot of the areas outside of Asuncion near the mountains so who knows. So much for the Biosphere being a protected area. But in the end, big oil always gets its way.



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[*] posted on 12-15-2013 at 02:04 PM


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Pemex has explored a lot of the areas outside of Asuncion near the mountains so who knows. So much for the Biosphere being a protected area. But in the end, big oil always gets its way.


But Pemex is owned by Big Government! :light::lol:




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[*] posted on 12-15-2013 at 02:11 PM


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Pemex has explored a lot of the areas outside of Asuncion near the mountains so who knows. So much for the Biosphere being a protected area. But in the end, big oil always gets its way.


But Pemex is owned by Big Government! :light::lol:


-----which has led them to fall way behind in technology. New sources of petroleum are being found all the time with modern tech. methods.

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[*] posted on 12-15-2013 at 02:15 PM


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Pemex has explored a lot of the areas outside of Asuncion near the mountains so who knows. So much for the Biosphere being a protected area. But in the end, big oil always gets its way.


But God put oil on this earth just so we could have it that way.:lol:

Its ours to use and abuse.
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[*] posted on 12-15-2013 at 02:26 PM


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Pemex has explored a lot of the areas outside of Asuncion near the mountains so who knows. So much for the Biosphere being a protected area. But in the end, big oil always gets its way.


But God put oil on this earth just so we could have it that way.:lol:

Its ours to use and abuse.


Yes, I know...a very wise woman once said, drill baby drill....words to live by...right?!




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[*] posted on 12-15-2013 at 02:28 PM


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Pemex has explored a lot of the areas outside of Asuncion near the mountains so who knows. So much for the Biosphere being a protected area. But in the end, big oil always gets its way.


But Pemex is owned by Big Government! :light::lol:


David, Big Government is owned by Big Oil and others....:light: One day you will figure it out:lol:




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[*] posted on 12-15-2013 at 03:25 PM
Whine, Whine, Whine


Back in the '50s-'60s living in So Cal, there were Oil Wells EVERYWHERE and nobody gave them a second thought.

I remember telling a younger friend about surfing Huntington Cliffs in the '60s and staring across PCH at the HUNDREDS of well derricks. The only thing that bothered us was getting the muck on our Bodies and Boards.

He thought it was B.S. until I showed him a photo I found taken from Huntington Beach pier looking North in 1960.

As a grade-school kid, we used to play in the Oil Fields in Norwalk after school.

And, it was FUN.
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[*] posted on 12-15-2013 at 03:28 PM


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Back in the '50s-'60s living in So Cal, there were Oil Wells EVERYWHERE and nobody gave them a second thought.

I remember telling a younger friend about surfing Huntington Cliffs in the '60s and staring across PCH at the HUNDREDS of well derricks. The only thing that bothered us was getting the muck on our Bodies and Boards.

He thought it was B.S. until I showed him a photo I found taken from Huntington Beach pier looking North in 1960.

As a grade-school kid, we used to play in the Oil Fields in Norwalk after school.

And, it was FUN.


Hmmmm muck all over while enjoying the beach. sounds like fun...and a muck covered Yellow tail sounds just yummy... save on the cost of vegetable oil.
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[*] posted on 12-15-2013 at 03:44 PM


I grew up on the beach in Del Mar (San Diego). A bottle of kerosene and a rag was used to remove tar from our feet. Some oil comes naturally from the seafloor too.



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[*] posted on 12-15-2013 at 03:57 PM


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I grew up on the beach in Del Mar (San Diego). A bottle of kerosene and a rag was used to remove tar from our feet. Some oil comes naturally from the seafloor too.


And exposure to kerosene can cause brain damage:light:

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/phs/phs.asp?id=514&tid=91




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[*] posted on 12-15-2013 at 04:13 PM


The Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergs, the Masons, Skull & Bones, black helicopters and the boogyman. Oh, and don't forget Nancy Pelosi and her hubby Paul. :lol:

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David, Big Government is owned by Big Oil and others....:light: One day you will figure it out:lol:




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[*] posted on 12-15-2013 at 04:15 PM


We still get tar on our feet in Oxnard. I think most of it seeps out of the sea floor. In the hills around here you see seeps all the time. Big business is only trying to help by keeping the oil levels in check.:light:
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[*] posted on 12-15-2013 at 04:41 PM


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I grew up on the beach in Del Mar (San Diego). A bottle of kerosene and a rag was used to remove tar from our feet. Some oil comes naturally from the seafloor too.


And exposure to kerosene can cause brain damage:light:

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/phs/phs.asp?id=514&tid=91


While I was attending college in the late '50s I had a night job at a large aerospace company and that job was as a "Publications Assistance". That title meant that every night I had the privilege of cleaning all the off-set printing presses using trichloroethylene (TCE) that was later classified as a carcinogen carrying an R45 risk phrase, may cause cancer.
Guess that's what's wrong with my conservative thinking. :lol:




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[*] posted on 12-15-2013 at 04:48 PM


In 1983 I worked a year for a company that made parts for aircraft and military satellite dishes... after doing assembly we took the pieces outside to a hot MEK tank to spray off any grease/ oil before the piece could get painted. They had a gas mask for us to wear, but that didn't stop all the fumes. M.E.K. is one of those fun things that worked, but are not healthy for life. LOL



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[*] posted on 12-15-2013 at 04:51 PM


Most of the tar balls were not from the oil Riggs but from seepage. Oil drilling releaves the pressure saving the beaches from pollution. ;)
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