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Osprey
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Also for the New Year
For all of us please:
1. remember the Edit button and
2.
Almost forgot: when you type about people, remember they are humans, warm, animate, living, breathing things. They are WHO, not THAT. They are
travelers WHO, fishermen WHO. I can't figure out what it is about the concept that drives you to DEHUMANIZE humans in casual speech (posts). I'm
talking about the last 2,000 posts about people, not some hit and miss mistake. Whew!
[Edited on 1-2-2014 by Osprey]
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BajaBlanca
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The linguist in me is smiling right now. One of the biggest dilemmas in linguistics is precisely the "proper" way to speak vs. the colloquial (in this
case the THAT which is often used to refer to humans).
If a different way of saying something is used enough times, does that then make it correct?
and the debate continues.
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Osprey
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Blanca, in this case if you replace all the Who's with That's, Who will ever again be a Who? Oh, that's probably been covered in Who's Who?
Seriously: if we relegate humans in our speech to objects, what does that tell us about how we see ourselves, about how we value humans and humanity?
Try telling your group of friends "My wife that I met in a bar." See how the wife likes THAT.
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chuckie
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Does that mean you will stop picking on me?
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I yam what I yam, and that's all what I yam.
I yam what I yam and that\'s all what I yam.
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Osprey
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Chuckie, I will not only stop but I will heap praise upon thee. You have to do two things:
Look on the bright side in the new year and
Get Spellcheck (and mindcheck because even spellcheck sometimes can't figure out if you are trying to say RIGHT, RITE, OR WRITE.).
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chuckie
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Geez, you are already on my case....and the electrons havnt even cooled down...Write? or is it rite? How about OK?
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I saw a lady on TV, she was born without arms. That's sad, but then they said, "Lola does not know the meaning of the word 'can't'." That, to me, is
even worse in a way. Not only is she missing arms, but she doesn't understand simple contractions. It's easy, Lola - you just take two words, put them
together, take out the middle letters, put in a comma, and you raise it up!
Mitch Hedberg
David
Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious.
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Osprey
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I suppose none of us can be to blame for errors now and then -- probably most posters watch television news, weather, etc. Even though locals and the
networks, cable have producers making sure the talking heads are talking straight, those heads get their words from reader boards prepared by others
and with all that knowledge and backup they make egregious mistakes one after the other 24/7.
A couple of my favorites are "Try and...." "IT IS TRY TO" and those people who are supposed to tell us the truth, explain what's happening, use the
words INCREDIBLE AND UNBELIEVABLE ---- how strange is that? They show you a train wreck and tell you not to believe it, record snow, "Don't believe
it" What happened to UNUSUAL, REMARKABLE, NOTABLE, ETC?
[Edited on 1-5-2014 by Osprey]
[Edited on 1-5-2014 by Osprey]
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danaeb
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My favorite colloquialism: Something, or someone "turned up missing".
Experience enables you to recognize a mistake every time you repeat it.
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chuckie
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How about "LOL" after everything?
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Bajahowodd
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I have heard tell that Osprey is quite a cunning linguist.
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
I have heard tell that Osprey is quite a cunning linguist.
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Is that said (with) tongue in cheek? 
Seriously, thank you for the list. Osprey. It is a good list to start out the New Year. I try to humanely scold human Nomads periodically, but to no
avail. So many posts are unreadable due to the inattention to the correct usage of these contractions. If they only knew...but of course, they don't.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidT
I saw a lady on TV, she was born without arms. That's sad, but then they said, "Lola does not know the meaning of the word 'can't'." That, to me, is
even worse in a way. Not only is she missing arms, but she doesn't understand simple contractions. It's easy, Lola - you just take two words, put them
together, take out the middle letters, put in a comma, and you raise it up!
Mitch Hedberg |
A comma?
Bob Durrell
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
I suppose none of us can be to blame for errors now and then -- probably most posters watch television news, weather, etc. Even though locals and the
networks, cable have producers making sure the talking heads are talking straight, those heads get their words from reader boards prepared by others
and with all that knowledge and backup they make egregious mistakes one after the other 24/7.
A couple of my favorites are "Try and...." "IT IS TRY TO" and those people who are supposed to tell us the truth, explain what's happening, use the
words INCREDIBLE AND UNBELIEVABLE ---- how strange is that? They show you a train wreck and tell you not to believe it, record snow, "Don't believe
it" What happened to UNUSUAL, REMARKABLE, NOTABLE, ETC?
[Edited on 1-5-2014 by Osprey]
[Edited on 1-5-2014 by Osprey] [/quote
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Bob Durrell
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I'm sure I will go up in smoke before I hear the end of: "I could care less" when that is exactly the opposite of what the speaker intended to
say.
I should really try to let that ignorance fly by me without irritating me!
OK 2014 resolution. I could care less if people continue to not say I couldn't care less. (LOL)
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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bajalinda
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Oh boy Osprey - looks like you've struck a nerve here - interesting thread.
Here are a couple of my favorites.
Using 'less' instead of 'fewer' as in "We had LESS participants than last year." instead of "We had FEWER participants..."
or "You can clean your car EASIER with X brand!" instead of "You can clean your car MORE EASILY with X brand!"
I see and hear this all the time - it drives me crazy.
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David K
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 Good luck with that, Osprey.
I am only hoping Nomads spell Guerrero Negro, Los Barriles, Mulegé, Puertecitos, and Alfonsina's correctly!
I mean afterall, they say Spanish is an easier language than English!
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Good luck with that, Osprey.
I am only hoping Nomads spell Guerrero Negro, Los Barriles, Mulegé, Puertecitos, and Alfonsina's correctly!
I mean afterall, they say Spanish is an easier language than English! |
Would you kindly care to show us your official credential as the Nomad spelling authority? After all is two words. Just sayin'. 
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David K
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Never ever claim to be an English spelling authority... ever.
My interests are the historic place names of Baja California, which typically are Spanish, and not always correctly spelled in Spanish (such as Santa
Rosalillita and Santa Ynez)!
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