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DavidE
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Hi Can I Make A Sales Pitch Without Getting Yelled At Too Loud?
I just now (10 minutes) arrived back in BA, with a bagful of antibiotics strong enough to lift my car off the ground...
I've got a long list of people to thank and I am going to do a lot of that via U2U so this doesn't get all mooshy on a public forum.
HOWEVER and I mean this as an EXCEPTION...
Antonio at Baja Cactus operating the gasolinera, and the hotel took on the DESERT HAWKS rescue mission, with a couple of very decent ambulances. Time,
lots of time, a humbling contribution out of his own pocket, to get the ambulances, get personnel, train them, god you can imagine what all of this
took out of his life.
DESERT HAWKS covers one of the most risky areas in the Baja peninsula. From well north of El Rosario to Cataviña. The "hog back" ridges, switchbacks,
all of it. If a person had a medical emergency out there before Antonio took on this immense project, well, it was "The Old Baja", pray, get your hand
held and get lifted into the back of someone's pickup truck.
The residents have had "many (Antonio can do this better than I)" lifesaving rescues and transports from the region to the Hospital at Colonia
Guerrero.
La Cuesta del Diablo is covered from Sta Rosalia. The grade south of Loreto has Loreto Ambulance Service, From Lazaro Card##as northward there is
service. Guerrero Negro hss service.
DESERT HAWKS is the "Big Gap". Just look at all the "Capillas" monuments on the side of Mex 1. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to muse how many
of these lives may have been saved.
HELP SAVE YOUR OWN LIFE! PLEASE PERMIT ANTONIO TO KEEP THIS SERVICE NOT ONLY "RUNNING" but in a position to ADD LIFESAVING GEAR, and training. He
needs a defibrillator, for a fact, top quality high speed tires, super good batteries not the barely working LTH or GOHNER stuff.
I added my pitiful amount of help a few months ago, and vowed then to get those ambulance electrical standards up to federal KKK-1822-AA standards,
which means, stuff will start and work when you want it to. But I'm only me and with my pitiful pension that isn't much. But I do have the knowledge
of emergency vehicle electrical design, installation and maintenance.
I never thought I would ever need the services (other folks would). Boy does life ever hold surprises. I had top notch EM treatment (being an old
grumpy EMT 2 I know a good steak when I bite into one). This ride wasn't a taxi cab with red lights believe me.
I'm sorta out of bullets here. I wish Antonio could add to this, provide information about which stuff he would love to see arrive at the Baja Cactus
gasolinera. A wish-list. Then cash donations to pay for fuel, vehicle maintenance, uniforms, training of personnel, and finally getting by whatever
means those vital EMT instruments that can keep a person alive. Being naive I wonder if a PayPal account would work for those folks who cannot get
directly to El Rosario. I've seen these programs enacted, the cost at first is jaw dropping, the once instruments get paid for, tires are new and
spares are on hand, technicians get trained, and equipment Antonio needs get installed, then things get a bit less daunting to keep going,
Yeah I'm "big" on projects like this. Always have been. I know what they can do. I just don't want to ever have to read or to learn that a Nomad, or
anyone else came out of a medical emergency in worse shape than they could have.
I'm still blown away that I ended up needing this service. I have had a list of things that I can do on the 2 ambulances for the last few months.
Getting the project arranged is a challenge.
Antonio and Desert Hawks would like to hear from anyone that can help out. Everybody's got "something" (I don't just mean money) that can help out.
Transportation of goods needed to the station, etc.
By the way, Isela, is a gorgeous young lady. You know that image of the nurses? Well Isela is a lot more conservative dresser, but she is the spitting
image of a beautiful guardian angela. And like Antonio, she is one smart cookie!
Oh yeah, by the way, I penciled it out to the point of exhaustion with a calculator, then verified the arrival of "my bus" at the Tijuana bus station.
Wanna know how much quicker the ambulance got to US CUSTOMS than that bus arrived at the Central Camionera in downtown Tijuana? Four Hours Forty Three
Minutes! That's from "downtown "El Rosario"". Out in the sticks god only knows.
OK enough of a rant. People more adept at this than I am should take over now.
Thank You in advance for helping Desert Hawks.
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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captkw
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DAVIDE
Hola,,,Glad to hear FROM YOU !!! IS THER A WAY TO HELP/DONATE TO THESE FOLKS ????.....k&t
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BajaNomad
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I expect to learn more about this from Antonio this weekend. We spoke with him briefly at the gas station on the way down. They have two ambulances
that were donated from the USA. Apparently the organization that donated the first one were impressed by how he/they were running the operation, and
came up with a second ambulance for them.
He said an official asked them what else they could use (beside $, etc), and he said he told them a helicopter. That's aiming high... but you gotta
appreciate it.
He said they're covering the area from around Catavina to just north of El Rosario.
He also said they'd had 68 incidents they were involved with since they started this in 2013.
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KaceyJ
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David,
You sales pitch all you want
Glad you're back and able to do it
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shari
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Now I CAN wish you a Happy New Year David and glad to see you back on your feet. You know how I am an optimist and I was thinking that your health
emergency has really brought attention to the wonderful service that Antonio started...so again...good things come out of bad...so lets all use this
lesson to help get Desert Hawks the funds they need to really rock & roll in 2014!
I think a paypal account would be a great idea as it makes it so quick & easy for people to donate...will you mention it to Antonio?
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaNomad
I expect to learn more about this from Antonio this weekend. We spoke with him briefly at the gas station on the way down. They have two ambulances
that were donated from the USA. Apparently the organization that donated the first one were impressed by how he/they were running the operation, and
came up with a second ambulance for them.
He said an official asked them what else they could use (beside $, etc), and he said he told them a helicopter. That's aiming high... but you gotta
appreciate it.
He said they're covering the area from around Catavina to just north of El Rosario.
He also said they'd had 68 incidents they were involved with since they started this in 2013.
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For those that want to contribute, would be nice to have contact for el Rosario, or even better USA contact for organization that donated ambulances
if they still collect directed donations for el Rosario ambulance
Btw, orgs like this in Baja should pitch their wishes to the San Diego foundation,...
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BajaNomad
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Thanks... I'm reading the suggestions/notes/etc on this.
When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
– Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel
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captkw
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Cool !!
I'm in !! money is cheap !! Life isn't !!!
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DavidE
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Registered: 12-1-2003
Location: Baja California México
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Me again,
If there could be volunteers NOB who can make phone calls, make appointments, cut through some of the bureaucracy for Antonio, that may help a lot.
Me 22 centavos' worth thinks having some way to network to get parts down to Antonio would be fantastic. I am a perfect example of Snuffy Smith School
of Economics who lives and dies by "seconds" demonstrator models, manufacturer's seconds, breaking open piggy banks, you name it. But I have priceless
knowledge between my ears. I would love to get my chosen end underway with straightening out the electrical systems. Master cutoff switches, nice
1-watt solar maintenance chargers, 1,000 CCA group 65 batteries, and then a pair of ambulance grade Nippondenso 220 ampere alternators. Code 3 makes
good lights but they cost a fortune. My 800 lumen LED inserts, will be free and give four times the "scene lighting" with the same reliability. I rob
the Code 3 lamp housings heh heh.
But Antonio has to coordinate all this. His command of English is superb. So communications is no problem. I have to get my butt well and get up there
and get those batteries (diesel) and cables into a reliable (meaning next to no maintenance) position. I have a functioning mail service at The UPS
Store 0250 in Chula Vista. I know this stuff will work. There are a bunch of really sharp folks on this forum.
And....(Jaques Clouseau)...furthermore....
Can we get some folks to contact their Mexico Insurance Surplus Line Brokers? They too can cut modest donations and show the rest of the Mexico
traveler's industry what a cohesive effort can accomplish. Yeah, wouldn't it be nice to maybe have a little lineup of decals showing just how much
auto insurance companies are willing to go for their insured (OK, that's getting a little too hardball I'll back off).
Help Antonio! How can we help you? You are the brains of this effort.
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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bajaguy
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Location: Carson City, NV/Ensenada - Baja Country Club
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Donation
I will be dropping off several $20 bills when we pass through in March on our way to Guerrero Negro for a whale watching adventure
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motoged
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Several years ago I helped collect donations for a wheelchair for Coco through a PayPal account with a friend managing the monies...we managed just
over $5000 in a few weeks (Coco used the money in a way he thought was better than a wheelchair....a car and medical expenses)....so, I am suggesting
PayPal is perhaps the best instrument for collecting donations as it also would keep a running account of $.
And knowing that someone with the skills and profile like Antoniowould help folks feel trusting their donations were going to the cause.
Promises will be made....but an account makes it real.
The fellow running Baja's Best had a used ambulance several years ago waiting for these upgrades....I wonder if that unit ever got going.
Don't believe everything you think....
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Baja Bucko
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Didn't Committment (Andy's organization) fund much of the ambulance set-up? I am just thinking that donating more funds would be better off going via
Committment...Andy Schouten's org.
My other 4WD is a Baja Mule!
La Mula Mil Survivor 2013-2014!
1000 miles by mule from the tip to Tecate!
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Baja Bucko
Didn't Committment (Andy's organization) fund much of the ambulance set-up? I am just thinking that donating more funds would be better off going via
Committment...Andy Schouten's org. |
Andy and Antonio work together... Here they are at the Itzel Heart Operation recovery/ success dinner, Nov. 11, 2010:
Here is Itzel:
Itzel with her mom (Isela) and brother:
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
I just now (10 minutes) arrived back in BA, with a bagful of antibiotics strong enough to lift my car off the ground...
I've got a long list of people to thank and I am going to do a lot of that via U2U so this doesn't get all mooshy on a public forum.
HOWEVER and I mean this as an EXCEPTION...
Antonio at Baja Cactus operating the gasolinera, and the hotel took on the DESERT HAWKS rescue mission, with a couple of very decent ambulances. Time,
lots of time, a humbling contribution out of his own pocket, to get the ambulances, get personnel, train them, god you can imagine what all of this
took out of his life.
DESERT HAWKS covers one of the most risky areas in the Baja peninsula. From well north of El Rosario to Cataviña. The "hog back" ridges, switchbacks,
all of it. If a person had a medical emergency out there before Antonio took on this immense project, well, it was "The Old Baja", pray, get your hand
held and get lifted into the back of someone's pickup truck.
The residents have had "many (Antonio can do this better than I)" lifesaving rescues and transports from the region to the Hospital at Colonia
Guerrero.
La Cuesta del Diablo is covered from Sta Rosalia. The grade south of Loreto has Loreto Ambulance Service, From Lazaro Card##as northward there is
service. Guerrero Negro hss service.
DESERT HAWKS is the "Big Gap". Just look at all the "Capillas" monuments on the side of Mex 1. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to muse how many
of these lives may have been saved.
HELP SAVE YOUR OWN LIFE! PLEASE PERMIT ANTONIO TO KEEP THIS SERVICE NOT ONLY "RUNNING" but in a position to ADD LIFESAVING GEAR, and training. He
needs a defibrillator, for a fact, top quality high speed tires, super good batteries not the barely working LTH or GOHNER stuff.
I added my pitiful amount of help a few months ago, and vowed then to get those ambulance electrical standards up to federal KKK-1822-AA standards,
which means, stuff will start and work when you want it to. But I'm only me and with my pitiful pension that isn't much. But I do have the knowledge
of emergency vehicle electrical design, installation and maintenance.
I never thought I would ever need the services (other folks would). Boy does life ever hold surprises. I had top notch EM treatment (being an old
grumpy EMT 2 I know a good steak when I bite into one). This ride wasn't a taxi cab with red lights believe me.
I'm sorta out of bullets here. I wish Antonio could add to this, provide information about which stuff he would love to see arrive at the Baja Cactus
gasolinera. A wish-list. Then cash donations to pay for fuel, vehicle maintenance, uniforms, training of personnel, and finally getting by whatever
means those vital EMT instruments that can keep a person alive. Being naive I wonder if a PayPal account would work for those folks who cannot get
directly to El Rosario. I've seen these programs enacted, the cost at first is jaw dropping, the once instruments get paid for, tires are new and
spares are on hand, technicians get trained, and equipment Antonio needs get installed, then things get a bit less daunting to keep going,
Yeah I'm "big" on projects like this. Always have been. I know what they can do. I just don't want to ever have to read or to learn that a Nomad, or
anyone else came out of a medical emergency in worse shape than they could have.
I'm still blown away that I ended up needing this service. I have had a list of things that I can do on the 2 ambulances for the last few months.
Getting the project arranged is a challenge.
Antonio and Desert Hawks would like to hear from anyone that can help out. Everybody's got "something" (I don't just mean money) that can help out.
Transportation of goods needed to the station, etc.
By the way, Isela, is a gorgeous young lady. You know that image of the nurses? Well Isela is a lot more conservative dresser, but she is the spitting
image of a beautiful guardian angela. And like Antonio, she is one smart cookie!
Oh yeah, by the way, I penciled it out to the point of exhaustion with a calculator, then verified the arrival of "my bus" at the Tijuana bus station.
Wanna know how much quicker the ambulance got to US CUSTOMS than that bus arrived at the Central Camionera in downtown Tijuana? Four Hours Forty Three
Minutes! That's from "downtown "El Rosario"". Out in the sticks god only knows.
OK enough of a rant. People more adept at this than I am should take over now.
Thank You in advance for helping Desert Hawks. |
Once you know all the particulars you (or Antonio) should
register with this on-line outfit and the $$ will just flow in:
GoFundMe.com
that's how Igor Vovkovinskiy, the worlds tallest man , raised $46,180.00 for his custom made shoes:
“Thank you so much @gofundme for everything you did for me. Only because of @gofundme and my friends, was I able to raise money for shoes.”
__________________________________________________
Victoria Albright also raised: $171,540.00 to pay the medical bills for her daughter who was injured in the Colorado theater shooting.
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tjsue
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Go Fund Me works great!
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DavidE, I am a retired Mobile Intensive Care Paramedic in California, I will ask around about a defibrillator. Does he need a fully automatic model
(AED), or will a basic 3 lead serve his needs. I am guessing that they are not ready for 12 lead, considering the current medical infrastructure. If
you can get me his wish list, I will see what I can do for them. JH
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Kgryfon
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"David,
You sales pitch all you want
Glad you're back and able to do it."
Ditto! If you get a way to fund, I'll help out.
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boe4fun
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Hola David, Glad you're back. I'll be bringing down a big bag of oak leaves for you mid February. Paul
Two dirt roads diverged in Baja and I, I took the one less graveled by......
Soy ignorante, apático y ambivalente. No lo sé y no me importa, ni modo.
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BajaRat
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajamedic
DavidE, I am a retired Mobile Intensive Care Paramedic in California, I will ask around about a defibrillator. Does he need a fully automatic model
(AED), or will a basic 3 lead serve his needs. I am guessing that they are not ready for 12 lead, considering the current medical infrastructure. If
you can get me his wish list, I will see what I can do for them. JH |
Ditto that medic.
David glad to see you made it, we were worried.
If you don't mind me copying your first letter I will pitch it to my overhead. We have two older Zoll 12 lead, manual defibs. One is slated for BA but
Ill shoot for the other one to the Desert Hawks.
Hats off to you Antonio 
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EnsenadaDr
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12 leads are routine at most rural clinics in Mexico to identify if and where exactly a heart attack or abnormality is taking place. Without the 12
lead, that would be virtually impossible. | Quote: | Originally posted by bajamedic
DavidE, I am a retired Mobile Intensive Care Paramedic in California, I will ask around about a defibrillator. Does he need a fully automatic model
(AED), or will a basic 3 lead serve his needs. I am guessing that they are not ready for 12 lead, considering the current medical infrastructure. If
you can get me his wish list, I will see what I can do for them. JH |
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