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Gypsy Jan
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Propane Tanks
Conversations with my husband,
Him: "Did you know our propane tank has rusted and is leaking?"
Me: "No, I didn't know."
Him: "Do you know how dangerous that is?!"
Me: "Yes, I know exactly. Years ago when I was living in the Channel Islands Harbor, Oxnard, in Hollywood-by-the-Sea, a backhoe caused a spark that
ignited a leak from the nearby market.
"The resulting explosion blew the guy living in the upstairs apartment out to the ground."
"I heard the BOOM! and saw the fire and ran to help,"
"The guy was on the ground, but the paramedics arrived right after me. He broke both his legs and maybe his hips,"
"I went door-to-door, checking on the neighbors to make sure that they were OK."
Him: ""I don't want to talk about this anymore."
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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DavidE
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Jan, ever see a pipa coming at you sideways with the brakes locked up? A pipa is a tanker. Remember propane safety is on everyone's mind down here.
After LPG arrived, several moon craters in the middle of cities "encouraged" the removal of LPG plants to a dozen kms outside of cities and towns.
Whenever i trade-in a tank I ask that the replacement tank be laid on its side so I can see the bottom. i don't need to see Jesus, Peter, Paul &
Mary, just yet.
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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Gypsy Jan
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Peter, Paul and Mary, "Leaving on a Jet Plane"
I would rather fly that way.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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Loretana
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We had a flakey propane dealer in Loreto that blew up about 20 odd years ago....I know someone died.....
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Udo
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Thanks for the tip, David!
In BA the tanks are on a dirt parking area. Great area for the bottoms to rust.
At the house I keep the tanks on a metal tray.
| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
Whenever i trade-in a tank I ask that the replacement tank be laid on its side so I can see the bottom. |
Udo
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
Whenever i trade-in a tank I ask that the replacement tank be laid on its side so I can see the bottom. i don't need to see Jesus, Peter, Paul &
Mary, just yet. |
That's where the Black Widows commonly like to hang out. Cool and dark.
Always check before grabbing the tank.
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[Edited on 2-13-2014 by DENNIS]
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MrBillM
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No Blow in Days of Old
The "Refill" yard in San Felipe back in the '80s-'90s was a fenced area at the West End where a REALLY OLD guy would fill
the small tanks from an inverted larger one trucked in from Mexicali while a Lit-Cigarette dangled from his mouth.
AND, when the larger tank in use got close to empty, he would wrap his arms around it and start thumping it against the ground to (supposedly) get the
most flow from it.
A process we would all stand right there and watch having found that, if we leave the tanks and return, we would find that ours were still unfilled
while those who were standing behind us had theirs filled and were gone.
I'm pretty sure that the guy died of Old Age.
Never heard of any Blow there.
Other than the time that "El Nido" restaurant burned to the ground, but that was from a tank (without valve-guard ?) falling
over and snapping the valve off.
[Edited on 2-13-2014 by MrBillM]
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Pompano
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I know a LOT of careless hombres in Baja who show burn marks on arms & faces. All from incidents with propane. Just a miracle that none of these
guys were killed. Safety is becoming more and more of a factor, however, so the industry conditions will improve.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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weebray
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Someone here has too much time on their hands. Propane tanks do not explode, they do not implode either. In fact even if you shoot them they are
hart to explode. In fact propane accidents are extremely rare. Rusty tanks aren't even a problem until they are severely rusted. A little rustolium
is required once in awhile. Nevertheless a whole industry has grown up around propane tank safety, basically for nothing. Just another taxpayer
funded waste of time and money. I did see a propane tank sitting on the porch of a house, engulfed in fire for more than an hour, finally "blow-off"
the gas via a safety valve. It was little more than a beautiful pyrotechnic display.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by weebray
Someone here has too much time on their hands. Propane tanks do not explode, they do not implode either. In fact even if you shoot them they are
hart to explode. In fact propane accidents are extremely rare. Rusty tanks aren't even a problem until they are severely rusted. A little rustolium
is required once in awhile. Nevertheless a whole industry has grown up around propane tank safety, basically for nothing. Just another taxpayer
funded waste of time and money. I did see a propane tank sitting on the porch of a house, engulfed in fire for more than an hour, finally "blow-off"
the gas via a safety valve. It was little more than a beautiful pyrotechnic display. |
I dont claim to know
much about propane tanks but the main storage facility in rosarito is on benito juarez, the main drag in the heart of the city. guess they didnt get
eidell's warning about moon size craters yet?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by willardguy
I dont claim to know much about propane tanks but the main storage facility in rosarito is on benito juarez, the main drag in the heart of the city.
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Did Robmearito grow around the gas facility? Which was the chicken and which was the egg?
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weebray
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
I know a LOT of careless hombres in Baja who show burn marks on arms & faces. All from incidents with propane.
Sorry, I have to call BS on that statement. |
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Pompano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by weebray
| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
I know a LOT of careless hombres in Baja who show burn marks on arms & faces. All from incidents with propane.
Sorry, I have to call BS on that statement. |
If you ask VERY politely, Pepe Yee of Casa Yee (they fill propane tanks) could show you his burns on hands, face, and neck. Danny of the old Maria
Isabella RV bakery could show you, too...if he were still alive.
Pepe's burns are one good reason why they don't allow motorhomes to fill their propane tanks in town anymore.
Here's a propane plume coming off an erupting tank at a palapa fire at Coyote Bay. Called a 'bleve'...I believe...and it will burn you severely.
Here's some info on them. A propane tank BLEVE will occur when the container is subject to extreme heat, such as in a fire. While the tank is being
heated, the liquid propane inside is being heated causing it to expand. The safety relief valve will open allowing pressure to vent to the outside
atmosphere. If the pressure inside the tank grows to a level exceeding that at which the safety relief valve can expel it from the tank, the propane
tank may rupture. If flames or a source of ignition is present, the propane will ignite resulting in an explosion...although this is rare due to the
strength of modern tanks.
Is it my imagination or is that smoke spelling...B S ? 
Gypsy Jan, I am sorry about this highjack.
[Edited on 2-14-2014 by Pompano] |
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captkw
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Weebee
Hola,AHHHHH propane gas explosions have been very common in Mexico since 1968 that I know of for many reasons and mex city had a HUGE incident a few
3/4 years back and that's when they decided to move the fill up/holdings tanks out of town...I don't how to tell you plolitley sir,, But your are not
correct on this matter and I myself have left taco stands and other eating joints when I see car fuel line with a hose clamp hooked to a propane tank
and even worse....to the burner....YIKES !!!
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B- Boiling
L- Liquid
E- Expanding
V- Vapor
E- Explosion
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weebray
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"AHHHHH propane gas explosions have been very common in Mexico since 1968" Sorry, you are wrong, exploding propane tanks are EXTREMELY rare -
statistically unimportant. Ask any fireman. And to Pampano the reason I called BS is that, by any definition, "a LOT" (in CAPITAL letters) is not
one person.
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OMG weebee
Hola,,I know propane has flashpoint and volita that makes really a danger !! you can come up with any BS you want!! but I install and maintain
systems on vessels and respect it !! in mex they don't add the stinky stuff which makes it even more of a fire hazard !! to argue if the tank Itself
goes is not important issue......whats next ?? gasoline dosnt burn !!! don't get what kind of point your trying to make here !! I myself like to live
life without getting BURNED !!
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Filled many propane tanks working at a fuel station in my youth. Propane came out of the main tank hyper cold. We wore gloves to avoid the freezing
of skin. The "burns" are more likely frostbite.
When the way comes to an end, then change. Having changed, you pass through.
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windggggrl
Me too!!
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Statistically Insignificant.
To begin with, the frequency of Explosions is small in relation to the usage AND I would venture that the number of
such accidents which can be attributed to Old and Rusty tanks failing (in instances where better tanks wouldn't) is likely fairly miniscule or
non-existent.
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