Pages:
1
2
3 |
BajaVida
Senior Nomad
![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif) ![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif)
Posts: 541
Registered: 9-1-2003
Location: Motown, Califas
Member Is Offline
Mood: muy cool
|
|
Lalo Guerrero, the father of Chicano music
very nice article
his father was born in Baja
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive...
No se apure y dure.
Don\'t hurry and you\'ll last longer.
|
|
JESSE
Ultra Nomad
![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif) ![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif) ![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif) ![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif)
Posts: 3370
Registered: 11-5-2002
Member Is Offline
|
|
Chicano music??
|
|
burritomama
Junior Nomad
Posts: 72
Registered: 12-3-2003
Location: aztlan
Member Is Offline
Mood: asi asi
|
|
chicano music, si
Lalo is great - check him out if you haven't already.
|
|
academicanarchist
Senior Nomad
![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif) ![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif)
Posts: 978
Registered: 9-7-2003
Member Is Offline
|
|
Chicano Music?
Corrido? Norteno? Mexican immigrants who came to the Southwest brought with them the music they knew in Mexico. If you go to the Rio Grande Valley in
Texas, you will hear a different version of who is the best Mexican-American artist. But it is all great music. Over in this part of the country you
get a stronger influence of Norteno.
|
|
burritomama
Junior Nomad
Posts: 72
Registered: 12-3-2003
Location: aztlan
Member Is Offline
Mood: asi asi
|
|
Point taken, AA.
Those broad generalizations (the father of this, the mother of that, etc) are problematic for so many reasons.
And so are such terms as "chicano"...
Just wanted to gvie a shout out for Lalo.
|
|
JESSE
Ultra Nomad
![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif) ![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif) ![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif) ![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif)
Posts: 3370
Registered: 11-5-2002
Member Is Offline
|
|
Chicano music, sounds like another farse to me, but hey, anybody can listen to whatever they want.
|
|
BajaVida
Senior Nomad
![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif) ![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif)
Posts: 541
Registered: 9-1-2003
Location: Motown, Califas
Member Is Offline
Mood: muy cool
|
|
guess I offended some my paraphrasing the headline of the article itself
Lalo plays music enjoyed on both sides of the border.
My father remembered him from Mexico and then in the US in the 40s.
I disovered him independently from my father in the 70s.
Lalo makes us both smile.
What is so evil about that I ask?
No se apure y dure.
Don\'t hurry and you\'ll last longer.
|
|
burritomama
Junior Nomad
Posts: 72
Registered: 12-3-2003
Location: aztlan
Member Is Offline
Mood: asi asi
|
|
No offense here! I appreaciated the article too.
|
|
Gypsy Jan
Ultra Nomad
![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif) ![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif) ![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif) ![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif)
Posts: 4275
Registered: 1-27-2004
Member Is Offline
Mood: Depends on which way the wind is blowing
|
|
Humm, errh, (clear throat)
Why did negative comments shut this thread down?
I was interested in the subject.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
|
|
BajaVida
Senior Nomad
![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif) ![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif)
Posts: 541
Registered: 9-1-2003
Location: Motown, Califas
Member Is Offline
Mood: muy cool
|
|
Have you heard his music?
The first song I heard of his was Pancho Lopez on Dr. Demento in the 70's. It took me probably 15 years to learn who the artist was.
He also does Las Ardillitas (the chipmunks) in Spanish.
and don't forget Tacos for Two, Pancho Claus, Elvis Perez (about a Mexican Elvis Presley)
you can find some of his music on Amazon, but I found a lot of his stuff at Down Home Music in El Cerrito (near Berkeley)
No se apure y dure.
Don\'t hurry and you\'ll last longer.
|
|
academicanarchist
Senior Nomad
![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif) ![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif)
Posts: 978
Registered: 9-7-2003
Member Is Offline
|
|
El Cerrito
El Cerrito, California, the hometown of John Fogerty.
|
|
elgatoloco
Ultra Nomad
![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif) ![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif) ![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif) ![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif)
Posts: 4328
Registered: 11-19-2002
Location: Yes
Member Is Offline
|
|
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0001XARGI/qid...
Listen to the samples then decide!
MAGA
Making Attorneys Get Attorneys
|
|
burritomama
Junior Nomad
Posts: 72
Registered: 12-3-2003
Location: aztlan
Member Is Offline
Mood: asi asi
|
|
I like the one about running out of tortillas...
|
|
Braulio
Nomad
![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif)
Posts: 321
Registered: 11-7-2002
Member Is Offline
|
|
Thanks for reminding me of Lalo's music Bajavida - I don't see why anyone would have taken offense - I guess the term "Chicano" means different things
to different people.
I heard Lalo (believe it or not) at the Keystone Berkeley probably 4 or 5 times back in the 70's - same stage as Jerry Garcia/Merl Saunders, the Sons
of Champlin - and the Tower of Power.
I think admission was about a buck back then.
I also caught him down on the Peninsula at the Circle Star - (as well as the "Inn of the Beginning" in Cotati).
It's funny - I never really associated him with the Chicano movement in those years - maybe more as kind of an older exPachuco-type or something - he
just seemed like a talented, sometimes funny bilingual singer guy who knew what was happening on the street - a lot of plays on words and stuff.
In fact the whole Chicano thing to me back then seemed to be more of a bridge-building type deal - as opposed to what I perceive it to be today.
Maybe I was naiive.
I lived on the border of Berkeley and El Cerrito for several years but don't recall Down Town music - I think I bought most of my music stuff at Tower
on Telegraph.
I'm changing the topic here.
Thanks again for jogging the memory BajaVida.
|
|
pappy
Senior Nomad
![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif) ![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif)
Posts: 679
Registered: 12-10-2003
Member Is Offline
|
|
the music is cool, but is the chipmunk voice for real, or is it a glich in my computer??(i can definitely see this on the old dr. demento show!)
|
|
thebajarunner
Ultra Nomad
![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif) ![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif) ![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif) ![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif)
Posts: 3696
Registered: 9-8-2003
Location: Arizona....."Free at last from crumbling Cali
Member Is Offline
Mood: muy amable
|
|
Dumping on another man's thread
is pretty pathetic, and practiced way too much on this board.
Baja Vida is a class act, one of the most honored men in our community, and yes, a descendant of those who came across the border.... if he calls it
"Chicano" so be it, not like from a honkie like me.
And yes, on many, many long miles across the Baja I have listened to Baja Vida's many iterations of Chicano music, can't say I like it all, but I
greatly appreciate his eclectic tastes, and his willingness to share good stuff out of his own tradition.
Right on, Hermano...
Baja Arriba!!
|
|
BajaVida
Senior Nomad
![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif) ![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif)
Posts: 541
Registered: 9-1-2003
Location: Motown, Califas
Member Is Offline
Mood: muy cool
|
|
what do I owe you for the nice comment?
how about a cerveza in Baja?![:cool:](./images/smilies/cool.gif)
[Edited on 12-29-2004 by BajaVida]
No se apure y dure.
Don\'t hurry and you\'ll last longer.
|
|
Oso
Ultra Nomad
![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif) ![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif) ![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif) ![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif)
Posts: 2637
Registered: 8-29-2003
Location: on da border
Member Is Offline
Mood: wait and see
|
|
Maybe Jesse would be happier if you called it "Pocho music"? In Texas it's usually called Tejano or Tex-Mex. There are many variations. Music is an
international language and fusion or crossover is an interesting dialect, i.e.; Baldemar Huerta/Freddy Fender, even Gloria Stefan & Miami Sound
Machine.
I'm a huge Freddy fan, have LP's from way back when he was Baldemar, got Tee-shirts, have seen him twice here in Yuma. Loved the Texas Tornados-"?Hey
Baby, que pas?? I thought I was your only vato.". Also big fan of Little Joe Hernandez. I'm also a Lalo fan, since "Pancho Lopez".
Chicano movement? I wasn't aware it was a movement. Not all Chicanos are Aztlan Separatists. Mexican-American, Californio, Tejano, Latino,
Hispanic, Neoyorquino: What the hell difference does it make? A Rosa by any other name... Just watched "Selena" again. Olmos had some lines about
the difficulties of being Mexican-American, here and in Mexico...(while he was driving the bus to her first concert in Monterrey)
|
|
Braulio
Nomad
![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif)
Posts: 321
Registered: 11-7-2002
Member Is Offline
|
|
The Chicano Movement certainly exists - but that's not to say that all Chicanos choose to be part of the movement - it's also a culture. See:
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/~ljones/UFW/documents/gonzalez.h...
If you'd like to learn more about the Chicano Movement do a google.
I guess that's why use of the term "pocho" kind of irritates me - there can be some very general cultural aspects to being pocho but it's mostly just
a label - you're really a pocho by virtue of things totally beyond your control. Fact is that every pocho I know really doesn't like to be called
"pocho" by people they don't know and who don't even have a grasp on the meaning of the word. They'd rather be refered to as "American". And that
doesn't seem to me to be too outlandish a request.
I think we've been here before vis-a-vis the labeling of people by folks who don't know really understand or don't give a rats rear about the force of
the words they're using thing.
Oh well.
Happy etc. Oso.
|
|
Braulio
Nomad
![*](images/xmbforum/star.gif)
Posts: 321
Registered: 11-7-2002
Member Is Offline
|
|
Here's a better link for people interested in the Chicano movement:
http://www.chicano-art-life.com/movement.html
|
|
Pages:
1
2
3 |