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cool.gif posted on 12-21-2004 at 08:36 PM
Lalo Guerrero, the father of Chicano music


very nice article

his father was born in Baja

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive...:cool:




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[*] posted on 12-21-2004 at 09:30 PM


Chicano music??
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[*] posted on 12-22-2004 at 12:14 AM
chicano music, si


Lalo is great - check him out if you haven't already.
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[*] posted on 12-22-2004 at 07:28 AM
Chicano Music?


Corrido? Norteno? Mexican immigrants who came to the Southwest brought with them the music they knew in Mexico. If you go to the Rio Grande Valley in Texas, you will hear a different version of who is the best Mexican-American artist. But it is all great music. Over in this part of the country you get a stronger influence of Norteno.
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[*] posted on 12-22-2004 at 12:31 PM


Point taken, AA.

Those broad generalizations (the father of this, the mother of that, etc) are problematic for so many reasons.

And so are such terms as "chicano"...

Just wanted to gvie a shout out for Lalo.
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[*] posted on 12-22-2004 at 01:30 PM


Chicano music, sounds like another farse to me, but hey, anybody can listen to whatever they want.



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[*] posted on 12-22-2004 at 06:41 PM
guess I offended some my paraphrasing the headline of the article itself


Lalo plays music enjoyed on both sides of the border.

My father remembered him from Mexico and then in the US in the 40s.

I disovered him independently from my father in the 70s.

Lalo makes us both smile.

What is so evil about that I ask?




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[*] posted on 12-22-2004 at 09:58 PM


No offense here! I appreaciated the article too.

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[*] posted on 12-22-2004 at 10:58 PM


Humm, errh, (clear throat)

Why did negative comments shut this thread down?

I was interested in the subject.




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[*] posted on 12-23-2004 at 08:05 AM
Have you heard his music?


The first song I heard of his was Pancho Lopez on Dr. Demento in the 70's. It took me probably 15 years to learn who the artist was.

He also does Las Ardillitas (the chipmunks) in Spanish.

and don't forget Tacos for Two, Pancho Claus, Elvis Perez (about a Mexican Elvis Presley)

you can find some of his music on Amazon, but I found a lot of his stuff at Down Home Music in El Cerrito (near Berkeley)




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[*] posted on 12-23-2004 at 08:22 AM
El Cerrito


El Cerrito, California, the hometown of John Fogerty.
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[*] posted on 12-23-2004 at 08:36 AM


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0001XARGI/qid...

Listen to the samples then decide! :lol:




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[*] posted on 12-23-2004 at 10:09 AM


I like the one about running out of tortillas...
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[*] posted on 12-23-2004 at 10:19 AM


Thanks for reminding me of Lalo's music Bajavida - I don't see why anyone would have taken offense - I guess the term "Chicano" means different things to different people.

I heard Lalo (believe it or not) at the Keystone Berkeley probably 4 or 5 times back in the 70's - same stage as Jerry Garcia/Merl Saunders, the Sons of Champlin - and the Tower of Power.
I think admission was about a buck back then.

I also caught him down on the Peninsula at the Circle Star - (as well as the "Inn of the Beginning" in Cotati).

It's funny - I never really associated him with the Chicano movement in those years - maybe more as kind of an older exPachuco-type or something - he just seemed like a talented, sometimes funny bilingual singer guy who knew what was happening on the street - a lot of plays on words and stuff.

In fact the whole Chicano thing to me back then seemed to be more of a bridge-building type deal - as opposed to what I perceive it to be today. Maybe I was naiive.

I lived on the border of Berkeley and El Cerrito for several years but don't recall Down Town music - I think I bought most of my music stuff at Tower on Telegraph.

I'm changing the topic here.

Thanks again for jogging the memory BajaVida.
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[*] posted on 12-23-2004 at 06:55 PM


the music is cool, but is the chipmunk voice for real, or is it a glich in my computer??(i can definitely see this on the old dr. demento show!):bounce:
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[*] posted on 12-23-2004 at 09:21 PM
Dumping on another man's thread


is pretty pathetic, and practiced way too much on this board.
Baja Vida is a class act, one of the most honored men in our community, and yes, a descendant of those who came across the border.... if he calls it "Chicano" so be it, not like from a honkie like me.
And yes, on many, many long miles across the Baja I have listened to Baja Vida's many iterations of Chicano music, can't say I like it all, but I greatly appreciate his eclectic tastes, and his willingness to share good stuff out of his own tradition.
Right on, Hermano...

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cool.gif posted on 12-28-2004 at 06:59 PM
what do I owe you for the nice comment?


how about a cerveza in Baja?:cool:

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[*] posted on 12-30-2004 at 08:32 AM


Maybe Jesse would be happier if you called it "Pocho music"? In Texas it's usually called Tejano or Tex-Mex. There are many variations. Music is an international language and fusion or crossover is an interesting dialect, i.e.; Baldemar Huerta/Freddy Fender, even Gloria Stefan & Miami Sound Machine.
I'm a huge Freddy fan, have LP's from way back when he was Baldemar, got Tee-shirts, have seen him twice here in Yuma. Loved the Texas Tornados-"?Hey Baby, que pas?? I thought I was your only vato.". Also big fan of Little Joe Hernandez. I'm also a Lalo fan, since "Pancho Lopez".

Chicano movement? I wasn't aware it was a movement. Not all Chicanos are Aztlan Separatists. Mexican-American, Californio, Tejano, Latino, Hispanic, Neoyorquino: What the hell difference does it make? A Rosa by any other name... Just watched "Selena" again. Olmos had some lines about the difficulties of being Mexican-American, here and in Mexico...(while he was driving the bus to her first concert in Monterrey)
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[*] posted on 12-30-2004 at 10:33 AM


The Chicano Movement certainly exists - but that's not to say that all Chicanos choose to be part of the movement - it's also a culture. See:

http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/~ljones/UFW/documents/gonzalez.h...

If you'd like to learn more about the Chicano Movement do a google.

I guess that's why use of the term "pocho" kind of irritates me - there can be some very general cultural aspects to being pocho but it's mostly just a label - you're really a pocho by virtue of things totally beyond your control. Fact is that every pocho I know really doesn't like to be called "pocho" by people they don't know and who don't even have a grasp on the meaning of the word. They'd rather be refered to as "American". And that doesn't seem to me to be too outlandish a request.

I think we've been here before vis-a-vis the labeling of people by folks who don't know really understand or don't give a rats rear about the force of the words they're using thing.

Oh well.

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[*] posted on 12-30-2004 at 10:42 AM


Here's a better link for people interested in the Chicano movement:

http://www.chicano-art-life.com/movement.html
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