Osprey
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NOT Remembering Redford - just having fun, practicing my story telling
Remembering Redford
Looking at some old photos of the good old days in Utah there were a couple of me and Robert Redford that brought back some very old memories. I met
the guy while working on a movie set near my regular workplace up in Utah. I remember we were the same age, born on the same day; him in New York I
think and me in Parawan, Utah August 18, 1936.
In 1972 I was training horses in Paradise Valley at the foot of the Cedar mountains near Cedar City, Utah. They shoot lots of movie scenes around
“Movie Ranch” near Cedar Breaks and they sometimes contract with me for animals on the westerns.
So I got the deal for horses on Jeremiah Johnson with shots around Lee Valley, Long Valley, all around Zion National Park. Very first day Redford’s
regular stunt man broke a rib. The whole crew pointed to me because of my hotshot football star days at Southern Utah state university way back when.
Turned out to be a great gig because most of the stunt stuff was on horseback, I was the same build and age as the actor and with the long hair, all
that beard and buckskin my uncle Ernie could have doubled. I had done some stunt work before around these parts on other movies and I had my card.
These western sets are usually pretty informal and it’s not unusual for the stars to mingle with the groundlings. It’s not always smooth because
there’s that thing hangin’ in the air; “I’m supposed to say this, he’s supposed to say that.” A lot of fumbling around with them trying to be a
“regular Joe” and the crew trying hard not to “suck up”, get too personal or too chummy like we knew the people like we all went to grade school
together somewhere.
It was a little different with me and Redford because we had to talk a little about the stunts. He wanted to do all of them but he was a hot property
even way back then and the bosses didn’t want him taking any chances. We had a down day and he asked me to show him around some so we got in my old
Jeep and toured the Breaks and the Zion shoulders. Some stunning views up there and he was enjoying just being off the set while I played local tour
guide.
We did enough chit chat that he asked me if I could maybe take some time off to scout around “Color Country”, as they call it, do some fishing. I was
honored that he would ask me and I gave him my address and phone number but I never heard from him.
He’s probably talking about me right now. Telling some hotshots about his ole’ stunt men pals in Southern Utah (me and Buster Carrier who did the jump
for him in Butch Cassidy) and how sorry he is that he didn’t have more time to relax, just run away and play with his ole’ buddies.
Buster told me he laughed all the way to the bank on that shot – the whole shot was through painted glass, first a little net, then a short jump into
a little pool in the Virgin river around Springdale.
[Edited on 3-28-2015 by Osprey]
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durrelllrobert
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Quote: Originally posted by Osprey  | Remembering Redford
Looking at some old photos of the good old days in Utah there were a couple of me and Robert Redford that brought back some very old memories. I met
the guy while working on a movie set near my regular workplace up in Utah. I remember we were the same age, born on the same day; him in New York I
think and me in Parawan, Utah August 18, 1936.
In 1972 I was training horses in Paradise Valley at the foot of the Cedar mountains near Cedar City, Utah. They shoot lots of movie scenes around
“Movie Ranch” near Cedar Breaks and they sometimes contract with me for animals on the westerns.
So I got the deal for horses on Jeremiah Johnson with shots around Lee Valley, Long Valley, all around Zion National Park. Very first day Redford’s
regular stunt man broke a rib. The whole crew pointed to me because of my hotshot football star days at Southern Utah state university way back when.
Turned out to be a great gig because most of the stunt stuff was on horseback, I was the same build and age as the actor and with the long hair, all
that beard and buckskin my uncle Ernie could have doubled. I had done some stunt work before around these parts on other movies and I had my card.
These western sets are usually pretty informal and it’s not unusual for the stars to mingle with the groundlings. It’s not always smooth because
there’s that thing hangin’ in the air; “I’m supposed to say this, he’s supposed to say that.” A lot of fumbling around with them trying to be a
“regular Joe” and the crew trying hard not to “suck up”, get too personal or too chummy like we knew the people like we all went to grade school
together somewhere.
It was a little different with me and Redford because we had to talk a little about the stunts. He wanted to do all of them but he was a hot property
even way back then and the bosses didn’t want him taking any chances. We had a down day and he asked me to show him around some so we got in my old
Jeep and toured the Breaks and the Zion shoulders. Some stunning views up there and he was enjoying just being off the set while I played local tour
guide.
We did enough chit chat that he asked me if I could maybe take some time off to scout around “Color Country”, as they call it, do some fishing. I was
honored that he would ask me and I gave him my address and phone number but I never heard from him.
He’s probably talking about me right now. Telling some hotshots about his ole’ stunt men pals in Southern Utah (me and Buster Carrier who did the jump
for him in Butch Cassidy) and how sorry he is that he didn’t have more time to relax, just run away and play with his ole’ buddies.
Buster told me he laughed all the way to the bank on that shot – the whole shot was through painted glass, first a little net, then a short jump into
a little pool in the Virgin river around Springdale.
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My cousin that lives in Park City hangs out with him and the 3 of us had dinner at a restaurant there once. I surprised at how short he is.
Bob Durrell
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Skipjack Joe
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Didn't they make that jump on horseback?
No wait. That was in Braveheart.
No. I'm not sure. There were so many.
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Cliffy
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In my flying career I've flown a lot of Hollywood. I rate Redford at the top of the "A Real Gentleman" list.
Flew him from LA to Provo and he asked where we were going to eat when he was at the ski resort. We said right across the street from the airport. He
said "no, get a car and come eat at my place". We did and when we walked in we were told our table was ready. Front and center by the fireplace. We
were told dinner was on Mr Redford. When ever we flew him he was always a total gentleman. I don't agree with his politics but I hold him in high
regard.
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Udo
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I love your part of the Redford tale, Jorge.
I wish I had known you back in the early seventies when I was doing some interviews with Butch Cassidy's neighbors in Telluride, CO.
Another thing...I am surprised how many Nomads knew Redford, although Jorge has told me the background on Jeremiah Johnson on several of my previous
visits to his home. I, for one, never met Redford, however, he still remains my wife Jana's heartthrob.
Udo
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