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[*] posted on 7-11-2015 at 05:44 PM
Weird & historic weather: record rainfall, snow in Hawaii & sierras, hurricanes in Baja... add: volcano eruption


Adding to our weird weather (e.g., early season hurricanes, snow in the Sierras this week): the impact of major volcanic eruptions in Mexico.

I have a feeling this is going to be a very strange year...
Hawaii Just Got Hit By A July Snow Storm (Seriously) http://t.co/TW4pnbRZ4T via @HuffPost #extremeweather http://t.co/Z6HwEHw9ce


http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Volcano/

http://youtu.be/gw24KT8yoV8 (eruption/flows)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwa_iCqDFL0 (various eruptions)

mexiconewsdaily.com/news/big-eruption-last-night-at-volcano-of-fire/

1991 Pinatubo impacts on weather:

The 1991 eruption of Pinatubo produced about 5 cubic kilometers of dacitic magma and may be the second largest volcanic eruption of the century. Eruption columns reached 40 kilometers in altitude and emplaced a giant umbrella cloud in the middle to lower stratosphere that injected about 17 megatons of SO2, slightly more than twice the amount yielded by the 1982 eruption of El Chichón, Mexico. The SO2 formed sulfate aerosols that produced the largest perturbation to the stratospheric aerosol layer since the eruption of Krakatau in 1883. The aerosol cloud spread rapidly around the Earth in about 3 weeks and attained global coverage by about 1 year after the eruption. Peak local midvisible optical depths of up to 0.4 were measured in late 1992, and globally averaged values were about 0.1 to 0.15 for 2 years. The large aerosol cloud caused dramatic decreases in the amount of net radiation reaching the Earth's surface, producing a climate forcing that was two times stronger than the aerosols of El Chichón. Effects on climate were an observed surface cooling in the Northern Hemisphere of up to 0.5 to 0.6°C, equivalent to a hemispheric-wide reduction in net radiation of 4 watts per square meter and a cooling of perhaps as large as -0.4°C over large parts of the Earth in 1992-93. Climate models appear to have predicted the cooling with a reasonable degree of accuracy. The Pinatubo climate forcing was stronger than the opposite, warming effects of either the El Niño event or anthropogenic greenhouse gases in the period 1991-93. As a result of the presence of the aerosol particles, midlatitude ozone concentrations reached their lowest levels on record during 1992-93, the Southern Hemisphere "ozone hole" increased in 1992 to an unprecedented size, and ozone depletion rates were observed to be faster than ever before recorded. The atmospheric impact of the Pinatubo eruption has been profound, and it has sparked a lively interest in the role that volcanic aerosols play in climate change. This event has shown that a powerful eruption providing a 15 to 20 megaton release of SO2 into the stratosphere can produce sufficient aerosols to offset the present global warming trends and severely impact the ozone budget.


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[*] posted on 7-11-2015 at 06:51 PM


Been getting strange. Its what happens when man messes with the environment. We need to change our behavior before the environemtn changes us.
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[*] posted on 7-11-2015 at 07:23 PM


Quote: Originally posted by norte  
Been getting strange. Its what happens when man messes with the environment. We need to change our behavior before the environemtn changes us.


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[*] posted on 7-11-2015 at 07:54 PM


uh oh, the Simpletons should be showing up any time now to talk about Shell beach, etc.:(



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[*] posted on 7-11-2015 at 08:07 PM


I hear you Whal-ista, and my gut is telling me this might be a very intersting season. I am looking forward to seeing how it plays out, floods, drought, who knows?

I just hope your thread doesn't turn into another environmental name calling, peeing contest. We have had too many of those lately!

Edit; I suppose that the auto correct changing 'iss' to' ee' makes me sound less crude!

[Edited on 7-12-2015 by AKgringo]




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[*] posted on 7-12-2015 at 07:43 AM


If you carefully arrange sparrow bones on a pewter platter, so that they resemble Stonehenge, and dust them with granite powder, you can influence your environment. If you use crystals in conjunction with certain positive phrases, you can make all be well. It was cold last winter and I made it warm this summer with this method.:biggrin:



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[*] posted on 7-12-2015 at 07:47 AM


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
I hear you Whal-ista, and my gut is telling me this might be a very intersting season. I am looking forward to seeing how it plays out, floods, drought, who knows?

I just hope your thread doesn't turn into another environmental name calling, peeing contest. We have had too many of those lately!

Edit; I suppose that the auto correct changing 'iss' to' ee' makes me sound less crude!

[Edited on 7-12-2015 by AKgringo]


Too late. The head simpleton has already logged in to start the peeing contest.:no::no:
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[*] posted on 7-12-2015 at 07:51 AM


I love Shell beach :bounce:
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[*] posted on 7-12-2015 at 08:36 AM


Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver  


Too late. The head simpleton has already logged in to start the peeing contest.:no::no:


There are no longer any peeing contests.
Only those that are peeing (w/ science) ... and those that are being peed on!
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[*] posted on 7-12-2015 at 01:14 PM


Just posting the variables. As in many calculations, More variables create more uncertainty and unlikely/unpredictable outcomes.

I'm in the home I grew up in, 5 miles from the hospital where I was born. I've seen a lot of changes in my hometown over the last half century. But a benefit of living in the same place for decades: I have a good longterm perspective of change over time.

Related: I'm caring for two desert tortoises that have been in our family since the 60s. Estimate their ages at 70 to 80 years old since they were adults when we adopted them. It's been interesting to watch their activity and hibernation calendars change over that period of time.

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[*] posted on 7-12-2015 at 02:36 PM


Quote: Originally posted by grizzlyfsh95  
If you carefully arrange sparrow bones on a pewter platter, so that they resemble Stonehenge, and dust them with granite powder, you can influence your environment. If you use crystals in conjunction with certain positive phrases, you can make all be well. It was cold last winter and I made it warm this summer with this method.:biggrin:


I accomplished the same thing with two women. The research was arduous, but I say, anything to advance the science. Oh, and it can be done on Shell Beach, too. :lol:

Disclaimer: This has nothing to do with Global Warming. I am not sharing my laboratory with the rest of the world. :no::smug::spingrin:
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[*] posted on 7-12-2015 at 02:45 PM


Well, I'll be at Sun Nova Beach !! :cool:



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[*] posted on 7-12-2015 at 03:40 PM


where is shell beach anyway
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[*] posted on 7-12-2015 at 03:57 PM


^^^Good to see ya Tone.
We are setting in for a third year of great Monsoon activity with above average rain fall up here on the Rim, guess ya never know till all the data's in but I'm hoping for wetter not drier summers.
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[*] posted on 7-12-2015 at 05:01 PM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaRat  
^^^Good to see ya Tone.
We are setting in for a third year of great Monsoon activity with above average rain fall up here on the Rim, guess ya never know till all the data's in but I'm hoping for wetter not drier summers.



Thank you, BRat! "Wetter Summers"...just so you don't get devastating floods like Texas and Baja Sur. We need rain to eliminate our drought here in California. An El NIno current is predicted. How that will affect us remains to be seen.

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[*] posted on 7-12-2015 at 05:29 PM


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[*] posted on 7-12-2015 at 06:30 PM


It has been weird weather in the San Juans May we had 12" of moisture snow rain ect, June was 2.75 rain and july so far we are at 4+ inches of rain



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[*] posted on 7-13-2015 at 04:13 AM


Was just reading that the current El Nino is setting up to be even stronger than 1982-3 and 1997-8. They've never measured water as warm in the Eastern Pacific. In fact the worry is that it's so warm the southern jet won't materialize to take advantage of all the tropical moisture available. Should be a good monsoon summer either way though
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[*] posted on 7-13-2015 at 09:34 AM


^^Makes sense. The monsoons have already started. In late June we had "Monsoonal flows" in San Diego.

This created a little rain, lots of humidity, plus thunder and lightning in the mountains east of San Diego.

They also started early up in Flagstaff, just as my sister was re roofing her house. Earliest she's seen in 20 years.



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[*] posted on 7-13-2015 at 06:21 PM


Colorado mts . most rain we've seen in my 34 yrs here .
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