BajaNomad
Not logged in [Login - Register]

Go To Bottom
Printable Version  
 Pages:  1  
Author: Subject: TRASHFISH ALERT
bajabuddha
Banned





Posts: 4024
Registered: 4-12-2013
Location: Baja New Mexico
Member Is Offline

Mood: Always cranky unless medicated

[*] posted on 7-17-2015 at 04:06 PM
TRASHFISH ALERT


I have mentioned on a few threads about eating Tilapia, a.k.a. ''Turd-Eaters" and how they're raised. We recently have had 'Swai' introduced into our little tiendas here in remote Baja, NM., inexpensive fish that doesn't look..... that bad. Tastes ok, mild white meat, so ok. Tried it. Then, made the mistake of looking it up on Google:

https://globalseafoods.com/tilapia-basa-swai/

Hoooo boy. Also a fast-breeding, eat-anything fresh-water species. Raised mainly in the Mekong River of Vietnam (lower reaches.... mucho humanity above) and I thought Tilapia was no more fun. I guess as the old saying goes, ya gets what ya pays for! Buyer beware.

For those what didn't read it earlier, we were in a sushi bar that was passing off Tilapia RAW as red snapper sushi. I still debate turning 'em in to the Dept. of Health.




I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!

86 - 45*

View user's profile
Bajahowodd
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 9274
Registered: 12-15-2008
Location: Disneyland Adjacent and anywhere in Baja
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 7-17-2015 at 04:25 PM


The commercial fishing industry is very quick to deplete species that are in demand around the world. Once they have done one, they go on to another.

And often, they give fake names to the fish to appear more palatable. For instance, Chilean Sea Bass is not even a bass, is not fished anywhere near Chile, and is actually Patagonian Toothfish.
View user's profile
monoloco
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 6667
Registered: 7-13-2009
Location: Pescadero BCS
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 7-17-2015 at 06:55 PM


They sell it in the local tiendas here as individual vacuum packed fillets. They probably buy it from Walmart, it's quite a bit cheaper than locally caught fish. Much of it comes from China or SE Asia.



"The future ain't what it used to be"
View user's profile
AKgringo
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 6004
Registered: 9-20-2014
Location: Anchorage, AK (no mas!)
Member Is Online

Mood: Retireded

[*] posted on 7-17-2015 at 07:20 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Bajahowodd  


And often, they give fake names to the fish to appear more palatable. For instance, Chilean Sea Bass is not even a bass, is not fished anywhere near Chile, and is actually Patagonian Toothfish.


The area of South America know as Patagonia is shared by Chile and Argentina. The Chilean side runs right down to the cape, and is comparable to the inland passage going north along the British Columbia and Southeast Alaska coastline.

I don't know anything about the fish in question, but there is a hell of a good environment for rock fish in Chile.

[Edited on 7-18-2015 by AKgringo]




If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!

"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
View user's profile
treuboff
Nomad
**




Posts: 127
Registered: 8-27-2013
Location: prescott az
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 7-17-2015 at 08:38 PM


Swai is like eating mush. Talapia has no flavor, but texture is better.
View user's profile
55steve
Senior Nomad
***




Posts: 857
Registered: 4-24-2006
Location: Warner Springs, CA
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 7-17-2015 at 11:29 PM


Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha  
I have mentioned on a few threads about eating Tilapia, a.k.a. ''Turd-Eaters" and how they're raised. We recently have had 'Swai' introduced into our little tiendas here in remote Baja, NM., inexpensive fish that doesn't look..... that bad. Tastes ok, mild white meat, so ok. Tried it. Then, made the mistake of looking it up on Google:

https://globalseafoods.com/tilapia-basa-swai/

Hoooo boy. Also a fast-breeding, eat-anything fresh-water species. Raised mainly in the Mekong River of Vietnam (lower reaches.... mucho humanity above) and I thought Tilapia was no more fun. I guess as the old saying goes, ya gets what ya pays for! Buyer beware.

For those what didn't read it earlier, we were in a sushi bar that was passing off Tilapia RAW as red snapper sushi. I still debate turning 'em in to the Dept. of Health.


The sushi bar our son bartends at just switched red snapper for tilapia last week - yes raw tilapia.
View user's profile
redhilltown
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 1130
Registered: 1-24-2009
Location: Long Beach, CA
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 7-17-2015 at 11:44 PM


Tilapia? There is no there there.
View user's profile
mtgoat666
Select Nomad
*******




Posts: 18125
Registered: 9-16-2006
Location: San Diego
Member Is Offline

Mood: Hot n spicy

[*] posted on 7-18-2015 at 06:13 AM


Quote: Originally posted by 55steve  
Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha  
I have mentioned on a few threads about eating Tilapia, a.k.a. ''Turd-Eaters" and how they're raised. We recently have had 'Swai' introduced into our little tiendas here in remote Baja, NM., inexpensive fish that doesn't look..... that bad. Tastes ok, mild white meat, so ok. Tried it. Then, made the mistake of looking it up on Google:

https://globalseafoods.com/tilapia-basa-swai/

Hoooo boy. Also a fast-breeding, eat-anything fresh-water species. Raised mainly in the Mekong River of Vietnam (lower reaches.... mucho humanity above) and I thought Tilapia was no more fun. I guess as the old saying goes, ya gets what ya pays for! Buyer beware.

For those what didn't read it earlier, we were in a sushi bar that was passing off Tilapia RAW as red snapper sushi. I still debate turning 'em in to the Dept. of Health.


The sushi bar our son bartends at just switched red snapper for tilapia last week - yes raw tilapia.



I would not eat in an establishment that serves fresh water species for sushi. You get what you pay for. If you want raw fish, don't eat at the budget restaurant
View user's profile
55steve
Senior Nomad
***




Posts: 857
Registered: 4-24-2006
Location: Warner Springs, CA
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 7-18-2015 at 07:03 AM


Tilapia is one of those fishes that can live in salt water is now being farmed in it at several locations.

http://seattlefishnm.com/products/factsheets/tilapia/



[Edited on 7-18-2015 by 55steve]
View user's profile
BajaBlanca
Select Nomad
*******




Posts: 13195
Registered: 10-28-2008
Location: La Bocana, BCS
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 7-18-2015 at 07:22 AM


Tilapia is such a beautiful word for trashfish!




Come visit La Bocana


https://sites.google.com/view/bajabocanahotel/home

And always remember, life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by those moments that take our breath away.
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
desertcpl
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 2396
Registered: 10-26-2008
Location: yuma,az
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 7-18-2015 at 10:52 AM



I read several years ago,, that Talapia was the worst fish to eat

not healthy, haven't touched it since,
View user's profile
rhintransit
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 1588
Registered: 9-4-2006
Location: Loreto
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 7-18-2015 at 04:33 PM


One grocery in Loreto, and probably more, is selling basa along side of tilapia. Similar to swap, same description, same origin, same warnings as swai.



reality\'s never been of much use out here...
View user's profile
bajabuddha
Banned





Posts: 4024
Registered: 4-12-2013
Location: Baja New Mexico
Member Is Offline

Mood: Always cranky unless medicated

[*] posted on 7-18-2015 at 04:41 PM


Ya Gits whatcha Pays Fa ! :barf:



I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!

86 - 45*

View user's profile
Bajahowodd
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 9274
Registered: 12-15-2008
Location: Disneyland Adjacent and anywhere in Baja
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 7-18-2015 at 04:53 PM


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
Quote: Originally posted by Bajahowodd  


And often, they give fake names to the fish to appear more palatable. For instance, Chilean Sea Bass is not even a bass, is not fished anywhere near Chile, and is actually Patagonian Toothfish.


The area of South America know as Patagonia is shared by Chile and Argentina. The Chilean side runs right down to the cape, and is comparable to the inland passage going north along the British Columbia and Southeast Alaska coastline.

I don't know anything about the fish in question, but there is a hell of a good environment for rock fish in Chile.

[Edited on 7-18-2015 by AKgringo]


The simple fact is that most of what is considered Patagonia is Argentine. From what I have read, these toothfish are caught quite South of Chile. No biggie. My post was about how marketers change names to make them more appealing.
View user's profile
vgabndo
Ultra Nomad
*****




Posts: 3461
Registered: 12-8-2003
Location: Mt. Shasta, CA
Member Is Offline

Mood: Checking-off my bucket list.

[*] posted on 7-19-2015 at 03:13 PM


At the Sotres Market in Vizcaino I saw individually wrapped fish fillets being sold to a customer, I asked what it was, I was told by the butcher that it was Halibut, when I got home with it, my receipt said Tilapia! The dog liked it.



Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris

"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth

Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."

PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
bajabuddha
Banned





Posts: 4024
Registered: 4-12-2013
Location: Baja New Mexico
Member Is Offline

Mood: Always cranky unless medicated

[*] posted on 7-19-2015 at 03:16 PM


Perry, was it all white, or did it have a slight 'vein' like snapper does? This new 'Swai' fish is all white, like halibut. Tilapia unfortunately looks like snapper, has a little red color to the meat; i'll never eat snapper again.

....That is, unless I catch it myself.... ;)

[Edited on 7-19-2015 by bajabuddha]




I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!

86 - 45*

View user's profile
treuboff
Nomad
**




Posts: 127
Registered: 8-27-2013
Location: prescott az
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 7-19-2015 at 09:17 PM


The fish market in Ensenada. No trashfish. 90 pesos kilo for all except 100 pesos for Halibut, Black Sea bass. The trash fish are the ones that get old and are discarded back to the sea, which is a shame.
View user's profile
vgabndo
Ultra Nomad
*****




Posts: 3461
Registered: 12-8-2003
Location: Mt. Shasta, CA
Member Is Offline

Mood: Checking-off my bucket list.

[*] posted on 7-19-2015 at 11:55 PM


Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha  
Perry, was it all white, or did it have a slight 'vein' like snapper does? This new 'Swai' fish is all white, like halibut. Tilapia unfortunately looks like snapper, has a little red color to the meat; i'll never eat snapper again.

....That is, unless I catch it myself.... ;)

[Edited on 7-19-2015 by bajabuddha]


White like Halibut. Very uniform pieces and rolled in a plastic sheet, one piece at a time.




Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris

"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth

Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."

PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
CaboMagic
Super Nomad
****


Avatar


Posts: 1109
Registered: 4-30-2005
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 7-20-2015 at 09:05 PM


eeeewwwwww is all that comes to mind!



View user's profile Visit user's homepage
Bajatripper
Ultra Nomad
*****




Posts: 3148
Registered: 3-20-2010
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 7-21-2015 at 08:57 AM


I guess it depends on one's perspective. What is trashfish for some is wonderful to others. Ask a Filipino their opinion on tilapia.

Reminds me a story my Mom once told about feeding a bunch of anthropologists who were over at the house for a faculty party catfish nuggets. This was in the early 60s, when catfish was considered "black peoples'" food. Everyone was delighted with the fish, until they were told what it was. Then, they grudgingly admitted it was pretty good.




There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
View user's profile
 Pages:  1  

  Go To Top

 






All Content Copyright 1997- Q87 International; All Rights Reserved.
Powered by XMB; XMB Forum Software © 2001-2014 The XMB Group






"If it were lush and rich, one could understand the pull, but it is fierce and hostile and sullen. The stone mountains pile up to the sky and there is little fresh water. But we know we must go back if we live, and we don't know why." - Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez

 

"People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care." - Theodore Roosevelt

 

"You can easily judge the character of others by how they treat those who they think can do nothing for them or to them." - Malcolm Forbes

 

"Let others lead small lives, but not you. Let others argue over small things, but not you. Let others cry over small hurts, but not you. Let others leave their future in someone else's hands, but not you." - Jim Rohn

 

"The best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer." - Cunningham's Law







Thank you to Baja Bound Mexico Insurance Services for your long-term support of the BajaNomad.com Forums site.







Emergency Baja Contacts Include:

Desert Hawks; El Rosario-based ambulance transport; Emergency #: (616) 103-0262