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[*] posted on 3-20-2016 at 06:45 PM
Video of recent plane crash in mulege



Video of recent plane crash in mulege

http://youtu.be/ejQuhObFaaw

Camera operator needs to see the wizard to get a new shot of courage, eh?
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[*] posted on 3-20-2016 at 07:02 PM


Pilot got it wrong, didn't stop the left drift. Sometimes planes can be a hand full when you are driving them, they do better once they are in the air. Glad no body was hurt, got a great story to tell the grand kids....



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[*] posted on 3-20-2016 at 07:11 PM


what is left drift and how do you stop it?



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[*] posted on 3-20-2016 at 07:23 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
what is left drift and how do you stop it?


Small single engine planes tend to pull to the left when you are accelerating down the runway, some such as conventional gear (tail draggers) are worse than others. Typically you use some right rudder and right aileron under acceleration to keep the plane headed in the right direction. As you build up speed you decrease the rudder and aileron input accordingly.

This may or may not have anything to do with the crash, his baggage compartment door could have come open and while distracted by that he might have just drove it into the fence. Planes make lousy cars, they are designed to be in the air.

I hope we get "the rest of the story" from the pilot.

[Edited on 3-21-2016 by dtbushpilot]




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[*] posted on 3-20-2016 at 08:13 PM


what makes them pull?
torque of the engine?




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[*] posted on 3-20-2016 at 08:15 PM


That looked strange. It didn't look like there was a noticable crosswind. Normally, I wouldn't expect the left turning tendencies to be that noticeable until airborne. But maybe a Mooney(?) is different because of the powerful motor? Maybe he got caught in a rut? Or got distracted as suggested?

[Edited on 3-21-2016 by BigBearRider]
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[*] posted on 3-20-2016 at 08:23 PM


he was probably reading one of DK's posts
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[*] posted on 3-20-2016 at 08:29 PM


Quote: Originally posted by bezzell  
he was probably reading one of DK's posts


I was already wondering, how long it would take for this post to get ugly




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[*] posted on 3-20-2016 at 08:33 PM


Harald, it's because of the propeller in front spinning one direction.
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[*] posted on 3-20-2016 at 08:38 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
Quote: Originally posted by bezzell  
he was probably reading one of DK's posts


I was already wondering, how long it would take for this post to get ugly


lighten up francis, just an obvious funny
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[*] posted on 3-20-2016 at 08:38 PM


Quote: Originally posted by BigBearRider  
Harald, it's because of the propeller in front spinning one direction.


is it spinning left?




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[*] posted on 3-20-2016 at 08:42 PM


Maybe he blew a tire?
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[*] posted on 3-20-2016 at 08:44 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
Quote: Originally posted by BigBearRider  
Harald, it's because of the propeller in front spinning one direction.


is it spinning left?

http://cfi-wiki.net/w/Turning_Tendencies

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[*] posted on 3-20-2016 at 08:44 PM


I asked Erika Google:
http://wiki.flightgear.org/Understanding_Propeller_Torque_an...

and the prop is turning right (from the pilot's perspective)




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[*] posted on 3-20-2016 at 08:45 PM


Apparently, it's more complicated than my simple mind remembered:

http://www.boldmethod.com/learn-to-fly/aerodynamics/4-left-t...
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[*] posted on 3-20-2016 at 08:54 PM


No texting while flying, LOL.
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[*] posted on 3-20-2016 at 08:57 PM


Quote: Originally posted by BigBearRider  
Apparently, it's more complicated than my simple mind remembered:

http://www.boldmethod.com/learn-to-fly/aerodynamics/4-left-t...


good one!




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[*] posted on 3-21-2016 at 07:44 AM


That is an older Mooney, not that powerful.....

The rudder is also linked to the nose gear, any small rudder input to the right, should keep the airplane straight down the runway.

The engine torque on acceleration, wants the airplane to roll, might be more an issue with a P51 or similar airplane, and not with a Mooney.
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[*] posted on 3-21-2016 at 08:13 AM


Quote: Originally posted by BigBearRider  
Maybe he blew a tire?


or maybe there was still mud on the runway from the last flood?




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[*] posted on 3-21-2016 at 09:01 AM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
Quote: Originally posted by BigBearRider  
Harald, it's because of the propeller in front spinning one direction.


is it spinning left?




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