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[*] posted on 4-13-2016 at 02:00 PM
Something's fishy


About a month ago our local fish market had "cavicucho" for sale. It looked like a nice white meaty fillet so I bought some. Marinated and grilled it was heavenly. Yesterday they had some more but this time called it "estacuda". It looks like the same fish but my point is it looks like what I remember totuaba looked like way back when. So many years ago that it was legal - I think. Could it be that someone is harvesting totuaba and getting creative naming it to skirt the fishing reg's? My Mexican friends have only a vague idea what cavicucho and estacuda are but everyone knows what totuaba is.



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[*] posted on 4-13-2016 at 02:07 PM


I see totoaba in the tijuana fish markets frequently, they call it WSB....
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[*] posted on 4-13-2016 at 03:28 PM


In our area estacuda is a grouper-like fish. Deeper water, hard bottom. Maybe a baqueta, or similar.
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[*] posted on 4-13-2016 at 04:43 PM


Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
I see totoaba in the tijuana fish markets frequently, they call it WSB....


Pardon my ignorance, what is wsb?




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[*] posted on 4-13-2016 at 04:47 PM


Quote: Originally posted by weebray  
Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
I see totoaba in the tijuana fish markets frequently, they call it WSB....


Pardon my ignorance, what is wsb?


white sea bass......very close resemblance and taste the same, (to me anyway)
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puzzled.gif posted on 4-13-2016 at 07:21 PM


Why would a Pangaro waist his time harvesting Totoaba filets when he can just cut out the swim blatter and sell it for mucho pesos to the locale chinese in the San Felipe area. Much more profitable, less work and just as illegal.
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[*] posted on 4-13-2016 at 08:19 PM


Quote: Originally posted by amigobaja  
Why would a Pangaro waist his time harvesting Totoaba filets when he can just cut out the swim blatter and sell it for mucho pesos to the locale chinese in the San Felipe area. Much more profitable, less work and just as illegal.


As I posted recently:

http://www.seashepherd.org/news-and-media/2016/03/28/sea-she...

" The beaches of San Felipe are littered with hundreds of dead totoabas with only their swim bladders removed."
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[*] posted on 4-14-2016 at 12:46 PM


Quote: Originally posted by amigobaja  
Why would a Pangaro waist his time harvesting Totoaba filets when he can just cut out the swim blatter and sell it for mucho pesos to the locale chinese in the San Felipe area. Much more profitable, less work and just as illegal.


Well, one reason could be that if he called his totuaba estacuda or cavicucho he could then sell it legally. I might add that it sells for quite a bit more than your standard cabrilla or pargo. My question is about the specific fish. Do estacuda and cavicucho really exist or are they just another name for totuava? Google is no help here.




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[*] posted on 4-14-2016 at 01:16 PM


This purports to be Cavicucho:

http://bajawild.mx/productos/cavicucho/

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[*] posted on 4-19-2016 at 12:33 PM


no evidence. deleted original post. seemed funny after that 12 pack now in the harsh light of sobriety, not so funny. sorry.

[Edited on 4-20-2016 by bajaric]
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[*] posted on 4-19-2016 at 01:04 PM


Quote: Originally posted by bajaric  
Sea Shepard killed the Vaquitas with sonar developed by the Military Industrial complex aka Scripps Oceanography to show their dead deaf porpoise bodes and get donations.

as far as totuava, still a few around from what I have heard


Would you be able to provide some evidence to support the allegation of vaquita deaths you mention caused by Sea Shephard?




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[*] posted on 4-19-2016 at 08:53 PM


Estacudo look a lot like snowy grouper.
They ooze a lot of slime after being caught.
Very good eating.
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[*] posted on 4-21-2016 at 10:42 AM


Cavicucho looks like ocean whitefish in the link
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[*] posted on 4-21-2016 at 11:41 AM


Cavicucho does look like Ocean Whitefish.
Ocean Whitefish also known locally as "Conejo". Found over 120' depths most prevalent at 180-200'. Very common throughout the gulf, white flesh, good eating.
Estacudo found in even deeper seas, more common in the Pacific, larger than whitefish, and better eating than canejo.
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